Seriously? It was one of MAGA’s main talking points in justifying their vote for Trump.
Sorry MAGAs, Cheeto Was a Pro-War President
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Will you accept the bet? You can duck out with a "no", after all it was @Menace Sockeyes spreading the disinformation.
I'd like to get both you on the hook, but I'll settle for one.
@Menace Sockeyes the disinformation agent wrote, "You voted for the guy (Trump) who bombed the Middle East more than Bush-Cheney, Obama-Biden combined."
I don't have to explain what combined means, do I?
I guess I should have taken the last step, and not had such lofty expectations of y'all:
Obama dropped at least 140,067 bombs during his tenure, by himself more than were dropped during Trump's tenure.
If you combine Obama and Bush, do you think it suddenly becomes less?
Married to a therapist (LCSW). 🤣
I was enjoying our conversation about America's interventionist century, and all the joy it has brought the country.
Want to pick that back up?
https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/thre...d-results-thread.455723/page-37#post-12588752
But President Trump stopped publishing them after February 2020, shrouding continued U.S. bombing in secrecy.
I don’t know. You’re asking me a question that the official administration doesn’t want to answer.
You know how I know you didn't check the links I provided?
This is the FIRST paragraph:
The Pentagon has finally published its first Airpower Summary since President Biden took office nearly a year ago. These monthly reports have been published since 2007 to document the number of bombs and missiles dropped by U.S.-led air forces in Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria since 2004. But President Trump stopped publishing them after February 2020, shrouding continued U.S. bombing in secrecy.
If you check the .mil (that's the U.S. military's domain, BTW) link I provided you can see them:
****ing A. I understand your argument, but at the very least, I’d love be you to acknowledge that in 2017, when trump was president, we dropped the most bombs ever.You know how I know you didn't check the links I provided?
This is the FIRST paragraph:
The Pentagon has finally published its first Airpower Summary since President Biden took office nearly a year ago. These monthly reports have been published since 2007 to document the number of bombs and missiles dropped by U.S.-led air forces in Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria since 2004. But President Trump stopped publishing them after February 2020, shrouding continued U.S. bombing in secrecy.
If you check the .mil (that's the U.S. military's domain, BTW) link I provided you can see them:
It's not an argument.
They are facts.
What @Menace Sockeyes posted was disinformation. Who knows where he got it, he's not providing sources.
Ever?
I wouldn't concede that.
I'd put my money on 1944 for the year we dropped the most bombs ever.
@Menace Sockeyes has run off, so maybe you can tell me the answer to this question:
Which war that the U.S. fought in during the last 25 years did Hillary oppose?
Answer is actually none, but none of you pussies will acknowledge that.
lol. Ok. Ok concede that during a WORLD WAR we dropped more bombs.
Did you really just talk about 1944 as a reference? Yeah, I guess uhhh. We were at war with plenty of evil at that point. Now you’re comparing that with anything within the last 20 years.
Honestly. I can’t take you seriously when you’re comparing the last 25 years to anything remotely close to WW2.
Then just trying to step aside from the fact that Trump dropped more bombs in 2017 than any other period outside of WW2.
Cognitive dissonance is really strong here.
Sir, the word "ever" has a meaning. Precision in language is important, especially with so many disinformation agents afoot.
Hell yeah I did. It was the grand daddy of them all. Definitely my favorite one to sim or read about.
I'm working my way through southern France right now:
I'm super serial. WW2 is the most fascinating war of all time, and hopefully it stays that way.
Again, precision in language is important when combatting disinformation agents like @Menace Sockeyes.
If @Menace Sockeyes had written, "Trump dropped more bombs in one year than any single year of the Obama or Bush presidencies," that would be true. Misleading, considering both eclipsed him in total bombs dropped during their tenure, but still true.
Instead he decided to make shit up, got called on it, and has now slunk off refusing to acknowledge it.
****. Precision of language is something I’ve been waiting a long time for.Sir, the word "ever" has a meaning. Precision in language is important, especially with so many disinformation agents afoot.
Hell yeah I did. It was the grand daddy of them all. Definitely my favorite one to sim or read about.
I'm working my way through southern France right now:
I'm super serial. WW2 is the most fascinating war of all time, and hopefully it stays that way.
Again, precision in language is important when combatting disinformation agents like @Menace Sockeyes.
If @Menace Sockeyes had written, "Trump dropped more bombs in one year than any single year of the Obama or Bush presidencies," that would be true. Misleading, considering both eclipsed him in total bombs dropped during their tenure, but still true.
Instead he decided to make shit up, got called on it, and has now slunk off refusing to acknowledge it.
How do you think trump had presented that precisions at all?
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Making me choose between the lady who never saw a war she didn't like and the guy who called the neocons' wars "stupid" wasn't really a hard choice.
Choosing between the guy who prefers peace to escalating into WW3 wasn't hard either.
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Well she has her work cut out for her then.
And no, I do not wish to continue listening to you try to refute points I was never making in the first place.
Shucks, dude. I though you were an honest interlocutor, and that when you asked me:
“Do you truly think that FDR's prewar policies were the sine qua non that precipitated Pearl Harbor?”
You’d be willing to honestly discuss the steps that FDR took to get the Empire of Japan to attack America as Secretary of War Stimson’s diary explained.
Jokes on me! Grade school understanding of WW2 is where it’s at!
People really believe that he will end all wars and lower grocery prices immediately.
BINGO! Someone else literate. I pointed this out to seminole97pagesofpropaganda earlier in this thread, but he’s intentionally dense. He’s the perfect Trump-Putin terminally-on-social-media lemming.
The ‘propaganda’ is straight from Biden’s DoD, you disinformation agent.
You just don’t know where to find the facts.
Provided you the links, but you’d prefer to remain ignorant and spout lies.
You still won’t answer the question I asked you, because you know she has supported every war in the last 25 years.
The policies she advanced created ISIS, but you’re too clueless to understand how.
You love warmongers and ignore facts.
When you get Natty Light squawking at you to answer dumb unrelated questions he asks you to the topic at hand, you know you got him.
What you ‘have’ is nothing but an expressed support for the woman who supported the U.S. entering every stupid war in the last 25 years.
It’s not unrelated because Trump was the alternative to her idiocy.
Even Obama admits the Libyan war she was the principal architect of was a shit show, but none of you sycophants can even acknowledge that.
Obama drawing red lines on chemical weapons that he didn’t have the balls to back up.
Democrats are still getting burned by the Obama myth.
I’ve been voting against it for the last 24 years.
The loud and proud Hillary supporters are the ones comfortable with American foreign policy creating more graves than even Putin.
Again, Republicans are BRILLIANT at what they do. I said 4 years ago after Safari Ted and others were at the border that they were going to make the border their anti-Biden issue, 2 weeks into his presidency. It worked like a charm because Republicans cried about it for 4 years. Add a sprinkle of trans playing girls sports and now we have Trump again.
Dude, like 80% of seminole's posts.
We were absolutely ROLLING ISIS by the end of Obama. Are you an intentional liar or just stupid? I, and most of us here, have the brain capacity to remember January 2017 and before, when ISIS first lost Tikrit, then Sinjar, then Ramadi, then Fallujah, then Eastern Mosul, all while Obama was President. We liberated Iraqi oil wells, we liberated their territory in Libya, we liberated their territory in Algeria, we liberated their first caliphate capital of Dabiq in Turkey, we liberated Mosul in Iraq, we liberated Kirkirk in Iraq, we liberated Qaraqash in Iraq. ISIS was down to half of Mosul, a town in Iraq , and a town in Syria. Saying Trump “defeated ISIS” is like a second string QB coming in the final possession, taking a knee, then declaring he led the team to victory.
Seriously, are you damaged?
"Don't call the populace dumb. Don't call the populace dumb."
I probably have them all on ignore as well, since they all seem to think I have mental health issues.
