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Sadly, Kirk Will Have To Be Forced Out

Bump this thread in 5 years... I can't believe someone could post this now and not know he's got an iron clad 10 year contract? It's on year 8 next year so it's 8 x 4 mill to make a move. That's before you have to pony up for the next guy. Right! He could go 0-36 over the next 3 years and will be here the following season. We might have TV money but we don't have 40 million just lying around for a single coaching change.
 
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I would say for everyone except SMU the net gain has been positive. It could be said SMU is the worst case of cheating to win. WHY IS IT SO ASSUMED IN ORDER TO WIN FOOTBAL GAMES YOU HAVE TO BE THE DEVIL? Was Bob stoops a bad guy? He won alot of football games. (Your going to spin and say Oklahoma is a blue blood and good recruiting to which I will say we have not gotten the best talent available for along time) NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE FOR A COUPLE YEARS. But there are other and very good options available most years at coaching.
Again, I never said the only other alternative was the devil. Can you people not read, or are you responding to several posters at once. When he said, he would be OK with the devil himself if he won games, I said I have a problem with that. I never said that it wasn't possible for Iowa to hire another coach and have success. Or do I need to type that in all CAPS?
What has happened to Baylors reputation? We don't know about what long term scars may be left on Louisville or UNC at this point, but its hard to believe any right thinking person could think about them in the same way, at least in the near future. Honestly, does none of this matter at all, that some of these coaches and schools will do almost anything to win?
 
I would say for everyone except SMU the net gain has been positive. It could be said SMU is the worst case of cheating to win. WHY IS IT SO ASSUMED IN ORDER TO WIN FOOTBAL GAMES YOU HAVE TO BE THE DEVIL? Was Bob stoops a bad guy? He won alot of football games. (Your going to spin and say Oklahoma is a blue blood and good recruiting to which I will say we have not gotten the best talent available for along time) NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE FOR A COUPLE YEARS. But there are other and very good options available most years at coaching.

I have to wonder if Stoops would say YES to 5 mil and a lifetime contract to come out of retirement? Then again maybe him replacing Barta is the real answer.
 
It matters but not as much as you think and sometimes the juice is worth the squeeze. Good news. We agree that Iowa could get another 7-5+ coach in here and his last name wouldn't have to be Ferentz.
 
Anyone who thinks that KF will ever be "forced out" is just dreaming. Not saying he should be, but if it didn't happen after 2014 it isn't ever going to happen.
 
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If Brian has to be fired after next year this thing is going to get ugly. You cannot perform worse than the guy who go fired before you and keep your job.
 
Anyone who thinks that KF will ever be "forced out" is just dreaming. Not saying he should be, but if it didn't happen after 2014 it isn't ever going to happen.

You're not alone. Many like you are proud the U and its fans have been manipulated into a position of financial servitude to the wants of one family. But of course it was the NICEST person in all sports who did the bullying. If only that same bullying technique could be mustered on Saturdays in the fall.
 
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Why do I say that? It's obvious Brian is not cutting the mustard as OC. Kirk is NOT going to get rid of him. So after another year or two of this, we will have to fire Kirk because of her unwillingness to replace Brian.

100% b.s.

First, while I am not a big Brian Ferentz fan, he's only in his first year as an OC. He deserves more time to show what he can do.

Secondly, your scenario of Kirk being fired is NOT going to happen--EVER.

If things spiral downward, Kirk will leave on his own without being pushed out. I truly do feel Kirk would not allow this thing to get out of control.
 
Why can't our next coach be a "good guy" too? Ppl on here act like if we part ways with Kirk the next coach will just be some dbag. Change is needed. This is different than after 2014 because of BF. Kirk will be the HC in 2018- lets see how it goes.
 
That being said, how he ends his tenure will also say a lot about him. Will he have the grace to help with a succession plan and a strategic search for the right coach...or will he overstay his welcome. I'm not optimistic on that front as he's always....always...the last one to realize that change is needed. Combine that with ego and the end of the Ferentz era could be uncomfortable.

He already has his succession plan in place. He won't step down until it looks like a slam dunk to get Brian the head coaching gig. Then Brian will stay on until his son or one of his nephews is ready. There will be a Ferentz coaching Iowa football well after I'm dead.

 
Bump this thread in 5 years... I can't believe someone could post this now and not know he's got an iron clad 10 year contract? It's on year 8 next year so it's 8 x 4 mill to make a move. That's before you have to pony up for the next guy. Right! He could go 0-36 over the next 3 years and will be here the following season. We might have TV money but we don't have 40 million just lying around for a single coaching change.


You should really look up how the contract is actually structured. It's nowhere near as bad as you think.
 
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You should really look up how the contract is actually structured. It's nowhere near as bad as you think.

For a second let's say the contract is ironclad (I've read it and it would take an extraordinary booster donation to fire him). People should still voice how they feel, including the people who boo at games. Why?
Well it's been said ad infinitum that he is the most moral coach in football.
Let him prove it and respond to all the fan disenchantment by resigning. And if he doesn't, well everyone has their answer as to where his priorities are.
 
Why do I say that? It's obvious Brian is not cutting the mustard as OC. Kirk is NOT going to get rid of him. So after another year or two of this, we will have to fire Kirk because of her unwillingness to replace Brian.
If you beat the nubs, KF's buyout increases by $2.5M.
 
Kirk is not going to get forced out. This year with the youth in key positions and a much tougher schedule has made for a very very inconsistent offensive. I think Wirfs and Jackson are getting good experience at the Tackles and Stanley will have a whole season under his belt. Both Jackson and Wirfs will get stronger in the off season, and I think this will be a very good line the next couple years. Now, if they are this inconsistent next year, then even I am going to bitch, but I think this is more of a transitional season. Hell, Vegas picked us to have 6.5 wins, so we are apparently right on schedule. LOL Ok, so now I since I am optimistic, I think the haters are ready to pounce. Go ahead, take your best shot. ;)
 
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I might be in the minority but I think we are trending up for the next couple of years. Lost of young talent got on the field this year, schedule will be easier as a whole, and we dont lose a ton of experience.

Areas they need to address:
Punting
LB- see they are on a JUCO
WR- Only lose MVB so group should be improved
DT- Would like to see them add a JUCO here.
 
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I might be in the minority but I think we are trending up for the next couple of years. Lost of young talent got on the field this year, schedule will be easier as a whole, and we dont lose a ton of experience.

Areas they need to address:
Punting
LB- see they are on a JUCO
WR- Only lose MVB so group should be improved
DT- Would like to see them add a JUCO here.

I doubt you're in the minority.
But the "next year" mantra actually sums up the problem perfectly.
 
I doubt you're in the minority.
But the "next year" mantra actually sums up the problem perfectly.

I agree with this. That is sometimes a hard pill to swallow because it is easy to want to clean house when things arent going great.

But you look around the country and would you rather be Iowa who at worst is a 7-5 type team or be shuffling coaches all the time? Stuck in a weird spot this fanbase.
 
If Fry would've hung em up in 95 instead of 98 and let Barry take over instead of leaving for Wisky this whole Ferentz issue would've been a moot point, AND Wisconsin would still stink I blame Hayden
 
I agree with this. That is sometimes a hard pill to swallow because it is easy to want to clean house when things arent going great.

But you look around the country and would you rather be Iowa who at worst is a 7-5 type team or be shuffling coaches all the time? Stuck in a weird spot this fanbase.

Reasoned reply. We need more like you.

Personally, I don't think the choice is binary. I think there is a third option: Hire Stoops! Then we can say by by to losing to FCS schools.
 
Reasoned reply. We need more like you.

Personally, I don't think the choice is binary. I think there is a third option: Hire Stoops! Then we can say by by to losing to FCS schools.
Would love to get Stoops, but Stoops and Kirk are friends, so unless Kirk retired or resigned, I am not sure Stoops would take the job under other circumstances. I do think Stoops would want the job, since it is his alma mater.
 
First of all, Barta is probably an idiot. Using the word "probably" is being kind.

But, he is the dumbest guy on earth if he hasn't talk to Bob Stoops about his interest in coaching at Iowa. If Bob is interested, I hope he still is when KF retires. If he isn't interested, I don't know where you go to find a coach that you can say with 75% certainty he will do as well as, or better than, KF.
 
ISU - better coaching staff, more creative than Iowa and they will be much better next year (with Kempt at QB and they recruit WR that can stretch the field).
Wiscy - is wiscy, better coaching (again more creative and willing to change - see their D for example).
Minnesota is still a year or two away from competing.
Indiana will be tough, they scheme (coaching) to their opponent.
Maryland - bad team
PSU, if Franklin stays will be another L.
Purdue will get better...
Northwestern is NW, tough and love to beat the Hawks - just ask Fitz.
Illinois, bad team but we made their QB look good...
Nebby will have a new staff so jury is out.

ISU loses both QB (5th year senior) and #1 WR.
 
The OP is a bandwagon fan and Kirk isnt going anywhere. In a few seasons he will have the Hawks in the top 10 looking to get into the playoffs. It will be time for the OP to get back on the wagon again after hitching a ride on the Turnip truck.
 
I might be in the minority but I think we are trending up for the next couple of years. Lost of young talent got on the field this year, schedule will be easier as a whole, and we dont lose a ton of experience.

Areas they need to address:
Punting
LB- see they are on a JUCO
WR- Only lose MVB so group should be improved
DT- Would like to see them add a JUCO here.
When Josh leaves too our CB’s will not be good next year...
 
So we get to go to Nebraska (who just put 44 up on PSU) .

Yup. We get to go to nebby where multiple teams have set team and or individual rushing records.

Four teams have blown them out (beat them by 21 or more points) They make other teams look like conference champs.

We'll be fine.
 
Yup. We get to go to nebby where multiple teams have set team and or individual rushing records.

Four teams have blown them out (beat them by 21 or more points) They make other teams look like conference champs.

We'll be fine.
Nebby will load the box and make Stanley pass. Nebby will then on offense turn and throw to anyone not named Jackson. They put up 44pts on PSU where we managed 19.

Say vs Wiscy -

Nebby
Tanner Lee 262 yds passing
Rushin offense was 112yds

Gave up 354yds rushing
113 passing

Iowa on the other hand:
Stanley 41yds passing (YES 41YDS!!!!)
Rushing offense 39yds (when you take out the -35 Stanley was sacked for).

Gave up 135yds passing
255yds rushing.
 
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