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Saturday Tariffs?

Guessing none of this materializes and the WH will merely claim victory with very few changes.

Actual 25% tariffs will create real chaos.
So should we hit Dollar Tree like NOW and buy everything in the place?
I’m kind down for it…need those cosmetic dupes before they’re all gone. 🤡
 
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China started buying soybeans from us again at the same volume as they were prior to the tariffs. In 2020 we exported more soybeans than ever before.

But you probably already knew that.
So, who is paying the tariffs?
 
China started buying soybeans from us again at the same volume as they were prior to the tariffs. In 2020 we exported more soybeans than ever before.

But you probably already knew that.

And they corrected the trade deficit, right?
 
Just remember, you are totally gung ho about a 25% tax increase right now so the next time a Democrat wants to raise taxes on rich people you might want to consider your viewpoint here.
Don’t make assumptions about my viewpoint. I’m not defending Trump’s tariffs and I don’t even agree with all of them.

I’m pointing out the abject hypocrisy of posters who are raging against Trump’s ‘moronic’ tariffs but have refused for four years to level even the mildest criticism against Biden for not only keeping all of those tariffs in place but also adding more on top of them.
 
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While I generally oppose tariffs, tariffs are good for a number of things, if used properly. What we should be asking is what Trump wants to use them for. I have 2 answers for that:

1. To raise revenues so taxes can be cut for the wealthy.

2. To engage in social engineering (by wielding tariffs to reward or punish people, countries or programs that Trump likes or dislikes, respectively).

#1 is consistent with GOP principles, but #2 is something Rs always say they oppose. We'll see about that.
 
Yes. As I said back then.

Biden did a number of good things, but that wasn't one of them.
You’re a rare breed, man. I’m not sure how many HBOT Dems are willing to criticize another Dem, but I’m pretty sure all of you would fit comfortably in a mid-size sedan.
 
MMM won the 1st district by under 1000 votes.
When does she decide her political future and Trump's dysfunction cannot co-exist? I suppose this could have gone in the slashing FBI agents and government workers thread, too.
 
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What I don't know is where the power comes from for the President to impose, raise or lower tariffs at whim.

Can someone point me to that authority?
Quick google

Section 201 of the Trade Expansion Act of 1962, authorized the President to enter into trade agreements and proclaim changes to U.S. tariff rates of up to 50% of existing rates. Additionally, Section 201 placed no limits on presidential reductions in tariff rates that were already less than 5%.
 
I couldn’t care less. What’s the tariffs Mexico and Canada impose on the US? Maybe we should make more stuff they want and need. Yes, we carry Mexico and Canada to some extent. But a healthy North America is good for the US. You get that, right?

Let me ask you this. Do you like china? Do you like illegal immigration? Don’t you think it would be beneficial for America to prop up Canada and Mexico while going after say, china. Bring back the business from china to our neighbors? Makes them more prosperous which will help with immigration.
I think the general chinese population is probably just fine, just trying to live their lives. I think having illegals in this country is needed in order to get a lot of work done but I dont want any illegal felons in the country. And Too bad companies and shareholders only want their profits rather than shipping all the jobs overseas to make a buck.

How about you do you like the Jan 6th violent offenders who we all saw with our own eyes bash and beat police officers? Huh do ya?, now be honest because there are millions of MAGAtts that think they are just grand. I cant wait to read your answer
 
Awesome.

Trump is going to get our checkbook out again for some more farm welfare.

Love it though, burn the whole thing down.
haha, you wouldnt know what the hell to do if they burned the whole thing down. Where is your money going to come from, no police no banks with money in them and no FDIC insurance. Are you going to be carrying and willing to shoot a bunch of your neighbors to get food
 
haha, you wouldnt know what the hell to do if they burned the whole thing down. Where is your money going to come from, no police no banks with money in them and no FDIC insurance. Are you going to be carrying and willing to shoot a bunch of your neighbors to get food
Quick question, are you enjoying some friday adult beverages at the moment?
 
if we refine and sell back the oil to them at a markup then oil can’t be the reason for the deficit. what am i missing?
A lot of cars are assembled and parts made in canada and mexico that come into the US. Those are high priced items that can help create a trade deficits
 
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Don’t make assumptions about my viewpoint. I’m not defending Trump’s tariffs and I don’t even agree with all of them.

I’m pointing out the abject hypocrisy of posters who are raging against Trump’s ‘moronic’ tariffs but have refused for four years to level even the mildest criticism against Biden for not only keeping all of those tariffs in place but also adding more on top of them.
Did Biden put tariffs on Canada and Mexico? Do those two countries dump products on the market and artificially low prices?
 
I think the general chinese population is probably just fine, just trying to live their lives. I think having illegals in this country is needed in order to get a lot of work done but I dont want any illegal felons in the country. And Too bad companies and shareholders only want their profits rather than shipping all the jobs overseas to make a buck.

How about you do you like the Jan 6th violent offenders who we all saw with our own eyes bash and beat police officers? Huh do ya?, now be honest because there are millions of MAGAtts that think they are just grand. I cant wait to read your answer

Yeah, I don’t have any problem with the Chinese people, just the government. As far as your second paragraph. What in the AF are you talking about? Every single one of them should be sitting in jail as far as I’m concerned. What a bizarre question.
 
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SO pretty much exactly what we all said it would be but got ridiculed by the Trumpers.

Come on bro. He’s using this as leverage. It’s a negotiating tactic. He’s just trying to make things more fair.

Give me a break. I even tried to believe that shit myself. Zero negotiation. Zero approval from congress. Just flat out king trump doing whatever the **** he wants.

Smfh.

Speaking of all the nagats. They seem to be fairly quiet lately. Wonder why
 
Did Biden put tariffs on Canada and Mexico? Do those two countries dump products on the market and artificially low prices?

 

China is helping Mexico. Not out of altruism, of course, but it's still good for Mexicans.

So naturally we have to try to shut that down. Who's that good for?
 
China is helping Mexico. Not out of altruism, of course, but it's still good for Mexicans.

So naturally we have to try to shut that down. Who's that good for?
China is using Mexico. They’re exploiting USMCA to circumvent their 25% tariffs by channeling steel and other goods through Mexico. If Mexico benefits in some way from that then China’s position is probably along the lines of “Well, isn’t that nice for you.”

But China’s motivation is helping China.
 
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Come on bro. He’s using this as leverage. It’s a negotiating tactic. He’s just trying to make things more fair.

Give me a break. I even tried to believe that shit myself. Zero negotiation. Zero approval from congress. Just flat out king trump doing whatever the **** he wants.

Smfh.

Speaking of all the nagats. They seem to be fairly quiet lately. Wonder why
It's quite clear that this dipshit King has no plan and neither do his merry band of misfits that surround him.

He is just going to burn this ****er down, isn't he?
 
Don’t make assumptions about my viewpoint. I’m not defending Trump’s tariffs and I don’t even agree with all of them.

I’m pointing out the abject hypocrisy of posters who are raging against Trump’s ‘moronic’ tariffs but have refused for four years to level even the mildest criticism against Biden for not only keeping all of those tariffs in place but also adding more on top of them.
And I explained the difference. But of course when the only tool you have is a sledgehammer it's hard to see the subtly.
 
China is using Mexico. They’re exploiting USMCA to circumvent their 25% tariffs by channeling steel and other goods through Mexico. If Mexico benefits in some way from that then China’s position is probably along the lines of “Well, isn’t that nice for you.”

But China’s motivation is helping China.
As I said, "not out of altruism, of course." But we're still talking about real factories producing 21st century products - not to mention the roads, grid and other infrastructure. That definitely sounds like a boon for Mexicans. And might even be a boon for Americans, too, if our government doesn't pile on the fees before we get to make our purchasing choices.

I simply don't care if it benefits China. They're following our playbook. We and the Brits invented this playbook. We should be upping our game - not engaging in hysterical policies.
 
Come on bro. He’s using this as leverage. It’s a negotiating tactic. He’s just trying to make things more fair.

Give me a break. I even tried to believe that shit myself. Zero negotiation. Zero approval from congress. Just flat out king trump doing whatever the **** he wants.

Smfh.

Speaking of all the nagats. They seem to be fairly quiet lately. Wonder why
They're stocking up in eggs at Fareway...down to $6.99/dozen.
They were $4.99 on Inauguration Day.😁😁😁😁
 
And I explained the difference. But of course when the only tool you have is a sledgehammer it's hard to see the subtly.
Do you really think China gives a shit what Biden’s justification was for keeping all of the tariffs in place and adding additional tariffs of his own?

Do you really think that when they were strategizing about how to respond they reminded each other that “Well, you know, he is just trying to protect American workers. It would be uncouth for us to retaliate against that line of reasoning.”
 
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