Scheduling

[torbee]

Originally posted by Lone Clone:

Originally posted by torbee:
The Big 4 is a perfect compromise.

I'm sorry, but there is no reason at all that Iowa and Iowa State need to be giving charity to their non Power 5 brethren in the state. If they want the bonuses that come from playing the big boys, they need to do it on their terms.

In football I would agree. But again, hoops is another breed of cat.

In basketball, I could see UI and ISU demanding that either they play a 2-for-1 or when the game is at Drake or UNI, the venue be the Wells Fargo or UNIdome, just purely from a financial standpoint.

But in terms of not playing them, as long as the big guys are schedule Maryland Dinah Shore and all those double-directional schools, there is no legitimate argument for ducking UNI and Drake.

But they aren't ducking them. In fact, they are being even more accommodating to UNI and Drake than other mid-majors - who ONLY get to play AT Iowa or AT Iowa State.

As I said, setting up a neutral court situation on an annual basis is throwing them a bone.

Now, I also wouldn't mind seeing it being an ACTUAL tournament. But most years, it would probably end up being an Iowa-Iowa State final, which would be weird, considering that home-away series will never (nor should it) go away.

I guess you could just set it up as four separate games - Iowa-UNI and ISU-Drake Friday, Iowa-Drake, ISU-UNI Saturday. That would work for me as well.

But neither Iowa nor Iowa State should feel compelled to give every-other-year home games (or any, really) to mid-majors, even if they happen to reside within state borders.

 

[TheHighLife]

Yes, Iowa does have a decided advantage in the series vs UNI and Drake but I don't remember many people complaining about a home and home when Iowa was having their way. The last ten years have been a different story. Once UNI (and at one time Drake) started rising up and winning a few games is when more fans started talking down to UNI saying they shouldn't give them charity. Is it all that bad to have challenging games in the pre season vs having Alcorn State and Campbell come through Carver?

 

[L. Wade Childress]

bills need to be paid. and unlike UNI, general fund money isn't used.

 

[Lone Clone]

Originally posted by TheHighLife:
Yes, Iowa does have a decided advantage in the series vs UNI and Drake but I don't remember many people complaining about a home and home when Iowa was having their way. The last ten years have been a different story. Once UNI (and at one time Drake) started rising up and winning a few games is when more fans started talking down to UNI saying they shouldn't give them charity. Is it all that bad to have challenging games in the pre season vs having Alcorn State and Campbell come through Carver?

This is basically the key.

It's like when the football series was renewed. After ISU won three straight and four of the first six, a lot of Hawkeye fans wanted it stopped because, they said, it was bad for the state, divisive, and led to unnecessary bad feelings.

When Iowa proceeded to win the next 15 games, not a peep from these folks.

And we've seen a resurgence of the "we shouldn't play ISU" in recent years. Funny, it always seems to peak when ISU wins the game.

I have said from the moment the "Big Four" thing was announced that if they were going to do it, they should make it a two-day affair with Iowa and ISU playing both the MVC teams, but not each other. That might actually be good for business in Des Moines, too. I can see people deciding to stay over Saturday night and catch both games (assuming it was a Saturday-Sunday affair). And although I'm not sure about the rules, might it not qualify was one of these events where only one game counts against the NCAA limit?

 

[L. Wade Childress]

hey dipshit, the idea of dropping Iowa State comes from boredom, not from being scared. Iowa will be unable to play another BCS conference team for the foreseeable future because of Iowa State.

 

[DanL53]

Originally posted by Lone Clone:

Originally posted by TheHighLife:
Yes, Iowa does have a decided advantage in the series vs UNI and Drake but I don't remember many people complaining about a home and home when Iowa was having their way. The last ten years have been a different story. Once UNI (and at one time Drake) started rising up and winning a few games is when more fans started talking down to UNI saying they shouldn't give them charity. Is it all that bad to have challenging games in the pre season vs having Alcorn State and Campbell come through Carver?

This is basically the key.

It's like when the football series was renewed. After ISU won three straight and four of the first six, a lot of Hawkeye fans wanted it stopped because, they said, it was bad for the state, divisive, and led to unnecessary bad feelings.

When Iowa proceeded to win the next 15 games, not a peep from these folks.

And we've seen a resurgence of the "we shouldn't play ISU" in recent years. Funny, it always seems to peak when ISU wins the game.

I have said from the moment the "Big Four" thing was announced that if they were going to do it, they should make it a two-day affair with Iowa and ISU playing both the MVC teams, but not each other. That might actually be good for business in Des Moines, too. I can see people deciding to stay over Saturday night and catch both games (assuming it was a Saturday-Sunday affair). And although I'm not sure about the rules, might it not qualify was one of these events where only one game counts against the NCAA limit?

I don't follow the violent and disabling sport of football. Stopped watching it around 1999 or 2000. I do check in on the Super Bowl but only for the commercials. And even that is getting harder now that I don't regularly follow the game. It's amazing the sick stuff people can get used to watching. Desensitized, I think that is what they call it.

Now, if you care to believe the reason I gave for wanting Iowa to drop any competition with Iowa State? Again, it is because the Iowa State fan base annoys me. You annoy me. I want nothing to do with you people. It is simply no fun playing Iowa State, whether we beat you or not.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Originally posted by DanL53:
I don't follow the violent and disabling sport of football. Stopped watching it around 1999 or 2000. I do check in on the Super Bowl but only for the commercials. And even that is getting harder now that I don't regularly follow the game. It's amazing the sick stuff people can get used to watching. Desensitized, I think that is what they call it.

 

[DanL53]

Originally posted by EvilMonkeyInTheCloset:

Originally posted by DanL53:

I don't follow the violent and disabling sport of football. Stopped watching it around 1999 or 2000. I do check in on the Super Bowl but only for the commercials. And even that is getting harder now that I don't regularly follow the game. It's amazing the sick stuff people can get used to watching. Desensitized, I think that is what they call it.

Whatever. You live in a closet.

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

Originally posted by soybean:

Originally posted by Phenomenally Frantastic:
The last two trips to Cedar Falls were an absolute flipping disgrace.

UNI has only itself to blame for ending the Iowa / UNI series.

UNI needs lessons in sportsmanship and courtesy to visitors times 1,000,000.

A public apology by the UNI AD to Fran and the U of Iowa for the 2011 trip would be a good start to mending relations.

Refresh my memory...what did UNI do to us that was so bad...besides the game itself that is?

you mean other than the farce of an athletic contest?

maybe the jackwagon state trooper leading Coach Fran off the court like he is some criminal. there was no need for the g-d damned trooper to be out there. what a joke.

 

[TampaHawkfan]

I'm late to this party, but Iowa plays Drake & UNI every other year on an alternating basis. To me, that's good enough. It's not like we NEVER play those teams and are refusing to.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Originally posted by DanL53:

Originally posted by EvilMonkeyInTheCloset:

Originally posted by DanL53:

I don't follow the violent and disabling sport of football. Stopped watching it around 1999 or 2000. I do check in on the Super Bowl but only for the commercials. And even that is getting harder now that I don't regularly follow the game. It's amazing the sick stuff people can get used to watching. Desensitized, I think that is what they call it.

Whatever. You live in a closet.

It's okay Dan. There's people out there who abhor sports in general.....like the Amish.

 

[DanL53]

Originally posted by EvilMonkeyInTheCloset:

Originally posted by DanL53:

Originally posted by EvilMonkeyInTheCloset:

Originally posted by DanL53:


I don't follow the violent and disabling sport of football. Stopped watching it around 1999 or 2000. I do check in on the Super Bowl but only for the commercials. And even that is getting harder now that I don't regularly follow the game. It's amazing the sick stuff people can get used to watching. Desensitized, I think that is what they call it.

Whatever. You live in a closet.

It's okay Dan. There's people out there who abhor sports in general.....like the Amish.

Monkey Brain cake. Yes someone actually created a recipe for monkey brain cake. Looks like they may have used a red velvet cake recipe, or is that chocolate? What is that on top? Looks like red marshmallow fluff to me! Hmm mm! But I think where they blow it is that looks like fondant and some food coloring icing on the face. Nope, not a fan of fondant. Never had any that tasted less like plastic and more like icing.

 

[clickhere 01]

Originally posted by DanL53:

Originally posted by Lone Clone:

Originally posted by TheHighLife:
Yes, Iowa does have a decided advantage in the series vs UNI and Drake but I don't remember many people complaining about a home and home when Iowa was having their way. The last ten years have been a different story. Once UNI (and at one time Drake) started rising up and winning a few games is when more fans started talking down to UNI saying they shouldn't give them charity. Is it all that bad to have challenging games in the pre season vs having Alcorn State and Campbell come through Carver?

This is basically the key.

It's like when the football series was renewed. After ISU won three straight and four of the first six, a lot of Hawkeye fans wanted it stopped because, they said, it was bad for the state, divisive, and led to unnecessary bad feelings.

When Iowa proceeded to win the next 15 games, not a peep from these folks.

And we've seen a resurgence of the "we shouldn't play ISU" in recent years. Funny, it always seems to peak when ISU wins the game.

I have said from the moment the "Big Four" thing was announced that if they were going to do it, they should make it a two-day affair with Iowa and ISU playing both the MVC teams, but not each other. That might actually be good for business in Des Moines, too. I can see people deciding to stay over Saturday night and catch both games (assuming it was a Saturday-Sunday affair). And although I'm not sure about the rules, might it not qualify was one of these events where only one game counts against the NCAA limit?

I don't follow the violent and disabling sport of football. Stopped watching it around 1999 or 2000. I do check in on the Super Bowl but only for the commercials. And even that is getting harder now that I don't regularly follow the game. It's amazing the sick stuff people can get used to watching. Desensitized, I think that is what they call it.

Now, if you care to believe the reason I gave for wanting Iowa to drop any competition with Iowa State? Again, it is because the Iowa State fan base annoys me. You annoy me. I want nothing to do with you people. It is simply no fun playing Iowa State, whether we beat you or not.
Between the our game with the ACC and the ISU game,it gives Iowa ONE interesting non-conference home game per year. You want to eliminate half of that because a couple of clone posters are upsetting your little message board world. lol You're such a flake.

 

[DanL53]

Originally posted by clickhere 01:

Originally posted by DanL53:

Originally posted by Lone Clone:

Originally posted by TheHighLife:
Yes, Iowa does have a decided advantage in the series vs UNI and Drake but I don't remember many people complaining about a home and home when Iowa was having their way. The last ten years have been a different story. Once UNI (and at one time Drake) started rising up and winning a few games is when more fans started talking down to UNI saying they shouldn't give them charity. Is it all that bad to have challenging games in the pre season vs having Alcorn State and Campbell come through Carver?

This is basically the key.

It's like when the football series was renewed. After ISU won three straight and four of the first six, a lot of Hawkeye fans wanted it stopped because, they said, it was bad for the state, divisive, and led to unnecessary bad feelings.

When Iowa proceeded to win the next 15 games, not a peep from these folks.

And we've seen a resurgence of the "we shouldn't play ISU" in recent years. Funny, it always seems to peak when ISU wins the game.

I have said from the moment the "Big Four" thing was announced that if they were going to do it, they should make it a two-day affair with Iowa and ISU playing both the MVC teams, but not each other. That might actually be good for business in Des Moines, too. I can see people deciding to stay over Saturday night and catch both games (assuming it was a Saturday-Sunday affair). And although I'm not sure about the rules, might it not qualify was one of these events where only one game counts against the NCAA limit?

I don't follow the violent and disabling sport of football. Stopped watching it around 1999 or 2000. I do check in on the Super Bowl but only for the commercials. And even that is getting harder now that I don't regularly follow the game. It's amazing the sick stuff people can get used to watching. Desensitized, I think that is what they call it.

Now, if you care to believe the reason I gave for wanting Iowa to drop any competition with Iowa State? Again, it is because the Iowa State fan base annoys me. You annoy me. I want nothing to do with you people. It is simply no fun playing Iowa State, whether we beat you or not.


Between the our game with the ACC and the ISU game,it gives Iowa ONE interesting non-conference home game per year. You want to eliminate half of that because a couple of clone posters are upsetting your little message board world. lol You're such a flake.


Useful little bit of childish taunting there. Feel better?