Schools Matt Campbell has Turned Down So Far: Washington, $7M/yr
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UW is a harder turn around than ISU in a tougher conference. They are lucky to get a good coach from a G5. DeBoer could have stayed a few more years in Fresno and likely found much greener pastures. It's a very tough place to win. I think Campbell will stay at ISU as I don't think he is a serious candidate for any major jobs just rebuilds. UW is a rebuilding job and it's a lateral move in terms of program prestige but in a tougher conference. I think ND will look to land an NFL guy if they can't get Fickell.
Also depends if he is vaccinated. Wash St. Fired their coach because Of the States Vaccination laws. If Campbell is against it that could be the reason.
Admirable. I’ll give him that. It makes utterly no sense from a career standpoint, but he sticks to his principles.
ISU to UW is not a lateral move. It is a couple steps up.
But yes Big !@ will be easier going forward. Even the next couple of years with Lincoln Riley gone.
That was a terrible decision unless he doesn't think he can compete with USC and Oregon.
The amount he gets paid in Iowa is roughly equivalent to 6.7 million in Seattle. When you also account for the unprecedented control and job security he enjoys at Ames ... the UW offer is low.
There WILL be the issue that Big 12 likely quickly becomes a second tier conference ... and that will dilute his current marketability. However, until then ... it's obvious that he has a sweet deal at Iowa State.
It will be interesting to see how the Iowa State budget contracts as they only obtain 2nd tier TV rights.
There WILL be the issue that Big 12 likely quickly becomes a second tier conference ... and that will dilute his current marketability. However, until then ... it's obvious that he has a sweet deal at Iowa State.
It will be interesting to see how the Iowa State budget contracts as they only obtain 2nd tier TV rights.
Washington had success with Peterson and was ok with Starkasian. Before and after UW has been a dumpster fire. In a much better conference but other than the Peterson years, pretty mediocre to abysmal. I would liken them to a better Vanderbilt in terms of program overall. Now it's true that UWs best years are better, but ISU has been more consistent as a winning program though lots of 7-8 win seasons. Steve S brought 7-8 win seasons to UW and Peterson had a strong run with three 10 win seasons . But before Steve S and the last two years UW had a lot of 3-4 win seasons. I just don't see it as a step up given how bad they were before the 2010 season.
$3M/ year (75%) raise.
and DEMAND that the 10 YEAR CONTRACT be fully guaranteed, just like Mel Tucker's is.
and that part of the country is absolutely gorgeous
$7M/year is getting him on the cheap?
if the reported $15M/ year is true for some of these coaches, what the hell is Saban worth? $20M?
its getting out of control
Yes, for Kelly, Tucker, and Riley. If Campbell is holding out for that, well, enjoy Ames!
I just don't see a 5* program coming for him. Maybe he's like KF and happy to stay in one spot, and I admire that, but if his goal is to move up the chain he should jump at a chance at a better program like Washington, show success there and use that to get the blue chip job. I'm not sure his stock will get much higher; no one knows what OU and UT moving to the SEC is going to do to the Big 12.
Notre Dame and the likes have a lot more money, power, allure, and reach than to settle for Campbell.
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How do you measure quality of life though. Seattle > Ames, by a million times.
Comparing UW to IShU and Vandy in
prestige is beyond ridiculous.
IShU is comparable to Oregon State maybe, while Vandy is more like a combination of a Stanford knockoff and Wazzu.
prestige is beyond ridiculous.
IShU is comparable to Oregon State maybe, while Vandy is more like a combination of a Stanford knockoff and Wazzu.
You couldn't pay me to live in Ames. On the other hand I would pay to live in Seattle. In fact I just might. 😉
What’s the obsession with ISU here?
are you saying that it costs 2.7 million more per year to live in seattle than it does in Ames?" hard to beleive
Washington?
Meh not that hard to decline especially for a Midwest guy
Yeah, lol at “lateral move.”
UW was last in the CFP in 2016 and won their last National Championship in 1991.
ISU was last in CFP and won their last Natty in…..(checks notes)……(checks notes again)……(consults Google)……(checks notes a third time)……(fart noises)…
You are so full of it. UW is far above ISU in the pecking order of CFB.
2 National Championships
17 Conference titles
4 Division titles
7 Rose Bowl wins
ISU hasn't won a conference title in over 100 years. Not even a close comparison.
Maybe he sees what is possible in iowa— a steady job in one location for his kids like Kirk and his staff has had. If you make 4 million a year does more mean that much?
One could ask that question of just about any college coach who jumps to another school really.
I was OK until you mentioned the TV rights. You lost me there. Tier 1 and 2 rights belong to the conference. Individual schools keep the Tier 3 rights. I think the Big XII may be the only major conference where this is the case, but I wouldn't bet on it. I think the provision was to let UT keep the LHN.
You beat me to it. I was going to reply to a post that said two ridiculous things, one of which was that UW is a tougher rebuilding job than ISU. In fact, UW has a history of major successes, A lot of us remember the Don James era.
My reference to 2nd tier was simply intended to match up more with being a synonym of lower-level. My intention was different than the distinction that you are trying to draw.
Up until three or four years ago, I would have agreed with you. Not now. I was in Seattle two years ago and based on the news stories, it's gotten worse since then.
You were referring to the likelihood that TV money in the new conference will be less? Makes sense. I misunderstood because "Tier Two" has a specific meaning when discussing the subject. No big deal.
Quality of life??? Much of that can be rather subjective, no?
Cost of living certainly can be calculated ... go to any cost of living calculator. Do it ... you'll find that around $4 million in Ames is considered to be roughly equivalent to $6.7 million (ish) in Seattle. I checked a few different ones ... but most landed in that ballpark.
I lived in coastal California before ... loved being so close to the beach and the mountains ... and the temperatures year-round were terrific. However, the cost of food is outlandish. The cost of housing is even more ridiculous. If you want to have kids ... the education system, by and large, sucks shit (you could pay a premium for private schools ... and they would still be far inferior compared to many midwestern public high schools).
Also, I'm originally from somewhat more rural Iowa ... so I am not the biggest fan of larger urban centers.
WU is a top 20 program all-time. Huge metro area. Fairly easy conference. Huge corporate sponsors to tap into, and West Coast talent to recruit from. It's a job on par with Michigan or LSU - 2nd best historic team in their respective conferences. Yeah, Oregon has Nike... but I see that and raise you Amazon, Microsoft, T-Mobile and Starbucks. USC has more wins, but they aren't even the only P5 in their municipality. With the right coach, they will be right back in the thick of things.
Campbell must want an NFL job. Can't think of any other reason he'd turn down Washington for Ames.
I’d seriously rather live in Ames. Seattle is not desirable for everyone.
Dude, come on. He’s saying the cost of living is higher in Seattle which it obviously would be. 4 dollars in Ames is equivalent to 6.7 dollars in Seattle. Does the lower numbers help?
Not getting vaccinated is stupid in the first place but throwing away 3 million and a chance to live in the Northwest over Ames rather than get vaccinated? Holy fck that would be the mother of all stupidity.
Luv the poster saying ISU is on par with Washington. DUDE do your homework. One one a national title in the 90s and was also in a freaking playoff game a few years ago. The other is excited when they win 7 games because that doesn’t happen often historically
Seattle blows, been there many times. I would still take the job for that raise though, regardless of cost of living. 3 million is plenty extra, and that cost of living stuff only affects poors.
Would add the Mel Tucker stuff as another poster said, gauranteed contract, no vax requirement. And I would buy a place in east Washington to get the eff out of Seattle often. And another place for off season. What a sissy for turning it down.
Would add the Mel Tucker stuff as another poster said, gauranteed contract, no vax requirement. And I would buy a place in east Washington to get the eff out of Seattle often. And another place for off season. What a sissy for turning it down.
