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Schumer urges tariffs to respond to China's unfair trade practices

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Well, he did, but that was before...



Much of that trade surplus is because the Chinese don’t play fair. They don’t let our goods into their country. I can tell you company after company in New York who cannot sell goods in China or can only sell them under impossible conditions.”

“The Chinese make no effort to prevent the ripping off of our intellectual property. These are our crown jewels. The thinking. The great creativity. The great entrepreneurialness of the American business community is just taken, and they shrug their shoulders.”

And worse of all, the Chinese pile on and add unfair rules that violate free trade. And at the top of that list is the fact that the Chinese peg their currency abnormally low, so their exports get a 27 precent advantage here in the U.S. and our imports get a 27 percent disadvantage when sold in China. Every tenet of free trade, if you believe in it, says they should not peg their currency.”

What does this mean for America? It means a huge job loss. We have suffered dramatically in manufacturing jobs, service jobs, and other jobs. It means we have a huge trade deficit. It means the dollar sinks to abysmally low levels, threatening our wealth, and it creates chaos in the whole world trading system.”

“We are fed up, Mr. President. How can we stand by as millions of American workers lose their jobs? As thousands of American companies can’t compete fairly? As our country as a whole has wealth drained from it?”

What we seek is fairness in trade. The Chinese do not play by the rules. We have talked and talked and talked to them. The time for action is now. If not now, when? If not us, who? Millions of American workers and thousands of American businesses look to us to set things right, and today, by passing the Schumer-Graham amendment, we can do that.”

 
Well, he did, but that was before...



Much of that trade surplus is because the Chinese don’t play fair. They don’t let our goods into their country. I can tell you company after company in New York who cannot sell goods in China or can only sell them under impossible conditions.”

“The Chinese make no effort to prevent the ripping off of our intellectual property. These are our crown jewels. The thinking. The great creativity. The great entrepreneurialness of the American business community is just taken, and they shrug their shoulders.”

And worse of all, the Chinese pile on and add unfair rules that violate free trade. And at the top of that list is the fact that the Chinese peg their currency abnormally low, so their exports get a 27 precent advantage here in the U.S. and our imports get a 27 percent disadvantage when sold in China. Every tenet of free trade, if you believe in it, says they should not peg their currency.”

What does this mean for America? It means a huge job loss. We have suffered dramatically in manufacturing jobs, service jobs, and other jobs. It means we have a huge trade deficit. It means the dollar sinks to abysmally low levels, threatening our wealth, and it creates chaos in the whole world trading system.”

“We are fed up, Mr. President. How can we stand by as millions of American workers lose their jobs? As thousands of American companies can’t compete fairly? As our country as a whole has wealth drained from it?”

What we seek is fairness in trade. The Chinese do not play by the rules. We have talked and talked and talked to them. The time for action is now. If not now, when? If not us, who? Millions of American workers and thousands of American businesses look to us to set things right, and today, by passing the Schumer-Graham amendment, we can do that.”



Umm I doubt many would be upset about tariffs on China.

Explain to me why Trump has to out tariffs on basically the entire freaking world.

There is a lot of the world that is famously not China.

Don't defend tariffs on China, defend tariffs on Canada and the EU.
 
Umm I doubt many would be upset about tariffs on China.

Explain to me why Trump has to out tariffs on basically the entire freaking world.

There is a lot of the world that is famously not China.

Don't defend tariffs on China, defend tariffs on Canada and the EU.
That was such an easy response. Thanks for handling.
 
Defend tariffs on Canada and the EU. No once cares that much about tariffs on China.
Sure, hey Canada, you know how you get to sit there safe as **** from the rest of thw world because nobody is going to attaxk your entire population that lives within a large blast radius of us and you like to be little bitxhes and talk shit and do dumb shit like the trucker shortage and limit dairy?


Swallow some dick.



EU, you're next.
 
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Sure, hey Canada, you know how you get to sit there safe as **** from the rest of thw world because nobody is going to attaxk your entire population that lives within a large blast radius of us and you like to be little bitxhes and talk shit and do dumb shit like the trucker shortage and limit dairy?


Swallow some dick.



EU, you're next.
So incentivizing our friendly neighbor to buddy up with our sworn enemy (China) is a smart policy? This is short-term thinking at it's finest. No one in this administration is doing any kind of Grand Strategy foreign policy, this is end up biting us in the ass.
 
We have been abused by the EU since WW2. That is a fact. While I am generally a fan of NATO, this alliance has allowed Europe to sit on their collective laurels for awhile. Why send a bunch of money on defense if the world's greatest superpower is, by virtue of a treaty, bound to come to your defense? Same with Canada.

Im tired of it. Step up bitches and get your own stuff. Steal from us in trade, steal from us in regard to military defense, inhibit free speech, talk trash about us all the while.

I wish I could game this out but I do wonder how the world would go if we left NATO. Maybe these bitch ass femmes in Europe would start to pay us for their collective defense. Not advocating Trump do that but do wonder how it would play out.
 
So incentivizing our friendly neighbor to buddy up with our sworn enemy (China) is a smart policy? This is short-term thinking at it's finest. No one in this administration is doing any kind of Grand Strategy foreign policy, this is end up biting us in the ass.
Then you'd certainly be for tariffs on China right? Dopping them on Canada for an agreement for them to not trade with China and for Canada to tariff them similarly?
 
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Then you'd certainly be for tariffs on China right? Dopping them on Canada for an agreement for them to not trade with China and for Canada to tariff them similarly?
Correct with all that. Targeted tariffs on our rivals makes sense to me. There are secondary benefits to our old trade policy that Trump apparently cannot see.
 
Sure, hey Canada, you know how you get to sit there safe as **** from the rest of thw world because nobody is going to attaxk your entire population that lives within a large blast radius of us and you like to be little bitxhes and talk shit and do dumb shit like the trucker shortage and limit dairy?


Swallow some dick.



EU, you're next.
This sounds so menacing I’m actually quivering from reading it all the way in Florida.
 
Without diving into specifics I would say we should tariff countries the same amount they tariffs us.
 
Umm I doubt many would be upset about tariffs on China.

Explain to me why Trump has to out tariffs on basically the entire freaking world.

There is a lot of the world that is famously not China.

Don't defend tariffs on China, defend tariffs on Canada and the EU.
I'll give you one example- Viet Nam. China routes a shit ton of products through Viet Nam thereby avoiding existing tariffs plus they steal intellectual property. That's why this admin is hammering them, to get them to play fair.

I'm guessing you can find many more examples of that kind of crap. Let's level the playing field is what I am guessing the end game is about.
 
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Let's level the playing field is what I am guessing the end game is about.

We are all just guessing what Trump is trying to accomplish.

- Level the playing field?
- Restoring domestic manufacturing?
- Tax revenues?
- Negotiations?
- Canada as a 51st state?
- Stop fentanyl and immigration at the border?

Are they long term in nature (returning domestic manufacturing and tax revenues) or are they short term with an eventual end (leveling playing field, negotiations, Canada, fent/immigration). Nobody knows for sure, Trump has given us all of these reasons, but that's the genius of Trump, he leaves us all guessing!
 
Well, he did, but that was before...



Much of that trade surplus is because the Chinese don’t play fair. They don’t let our goods into their country. I can tell you company after company in New York who cannot sell goods in China or can only sell them under impossible conditions.”

“The Chinese make no effort to prevent the ripping off of our intellectual property. These are our crown jewels. The thinking. The great creativity. The great entrepreneurialness of the American business community is just taken, and they shrug their shoulders.”

And worse of all, the Chinese pile on and add unfair rules that violate free trade. And at the top of that list is the fact that the Chinese peg their currency abnormally low, so their exports get a 27 precent advantage here in the U.S. and our imports get a 27 percent disadvantage when sold in China. Every tenet of free trade, if you believe in it, says they should not peg their currency.”

What does this mean for America? It means a huge job loss. We have suffered dramatically in manufacturing jobs, service jobs, and other jobs. It means we have a huge trade deficit. It means the dollar sinks to abysmally low levels, threatening our wealth, and it creates chaos in the whole world trading system.”

“We are fed up, Mr. President. How can we stand by as millions of American workers lose their jobs? As thousands of American companies can’t compete fairly? As our country as a whole has wealth drained from it?”

What we seek is fairness in trade. The Chinese do not play by the rules. We have talked and talked and talked to them. The time for action is now. If not now, when? If not us, who? Millions of American workers and thousands of American businesses look to us to set things right, and today, by passing the Schumer-Graham amendment, we can do that.”


We all know politicians are hypocrites and blow with the wind.

Do you believe Trump’s strategy is a good one?
 
I'll give you one example- Viet Nam. China routes a shit ton of products through Viet Nam thereby avoiding existing tariffs plus they steal intellectual property. That's why this admin is hammering them, to get them to play fair.

I'm guessing you can find many more examples of that kind of crap. Let's level the playing field is what I am guessing the end game is about.
What does level the playing field look like?
 
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Umm I doubt many would be upset about tariffs on China.

Explain to me why Trump has to out tariffs on basically the entire freaking world.

There is a lot of the world that is famously not China.

Don't defend tariffs on China, defend tariffs on Canada and the EU.
I'm going to hazard a guess it's regarding the tariffs that the EU charges and have now expressed a willingness to reduce to zero:

EU Trade Commissioner Maroš Šefčovič said separately that the zero-for-zero deal could cover cars and all other industrial goods, such as chemicals, pharmaceuticals, rubber and plastic machinery.

That's not even touching the Ag tariffs: The EU's weighted average Most Favoured Nation (MFN) tariff for agricultural products is significantly higher (8.4%)
 
Well, he did, but that was before...



Much of that trade surplus is because the Chinese don’t play fair. They don’t let our goods into their country. I can tell you company after company in New York who cannot sell goods in China or can only sell them under impossible conditions.”

“The Chinese make no effort to prevent the ripping off of our intellectual property. These are our crown jewels. The thinking. The great creativity. The great entrepreneurialness of the American business community is just taken, and they shrug their shoulders.”

And worse of all, the Chinese pile on and add unfair rules that violate free trade. And at the top of that list is the fact that the Chinese peg their currency abnormally low, so their exports get a 27 precent advantage here in the U.S. and our imports get a 27 percent disadvantage when sold in China. Every tenet of free trade, if you believe in it, says they should not peg their currency.”

What does this mean for America? It means a huge job loss. We have suffered dramatically in manufacturing jobs, service jobs, and other jobs. It means we have a huge trade deficit. It means the dollar sinks to abysmally low levels, threatening our wealth, and it creates chaos in the whole world trading system.”

“We are fed up, Mr. President. How can we stand by as millions of American workers lose their jobs? As thousands of American companies can’t compete fairly? As our country as a whole has wealth drained from it?”

What we seek is fairness in trade. The Chinese do not play by the rules. We have talked and talked and talked to them. The time for action is now. If not now, when? If not us, who? Millions of American workers and thousands of American businesses look to us to set things right, and today, by passing the Schumer-Graham amendment, we can do that.”


Did he propose 54% tariffs or an additional 50% tariffs on top? I must have missed that. Did they implement said tariffs?
 
We have been abused by the EU since WW2. That is a fact. While I am generally a fan of NATO, this alliance has allowed Europe to sit on their collective laurels for awhile. Why send a bunch of money on defense if the world's greatest superpower is, by virtue of a treaty, bound to come to your defense? Same with Canada.

Im tired of it. Step up bitches and get your own stuff. Steal from us in trade, steal from us in regard to military defense, inhibit free speech, talk trash about us all the while.

I wish I could game this out but I do wonder how the world would go if we left NATO. Maybe these bitch ass femmes in Europe would start to pay us for their collective defense. Not advocating Trump do that but do wonder how it would play out.
Bitch ass femmes? Would you be man enough to say that to this dude’s face?

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I am shocked that MAGA's don't know anything about nuance or details.
Please explain.....which MAGAs and which comments lead you to believe one cannot see nuance or details? Because without actual examples, and with examples, specific details, I'm afraid this post comes off as almost all yours do, vacuous.
 
Bitch ass femmes? Would you be man enough to say that to this dude’s face?

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Im referring to the people and the leadership. Obviously.

Then there is the fact that these three in your selected pic MAY represent the entirety of the EU's defense force. Oh and nice ax. 200 BC called and they want their arms back.
 
I'll give you one example- Viet Nam. China routes a shit ton of products through Viet Nam thereby avoiding existing tariffs plus they steal intellectual property. That's why this admin is hammering them, to get them to play fair.

I'm guessing you can find many more examples of that kind of crap. Let's level the playing field is what I am guessing the end game is about.

Ok but Canada and the EU are not Vietnam...

If you are going to impose a tariff you should be able to articulate a logic behind it.

Trump just put blanket tariffs on pretty much every country in the world. What is the logic on that??
 
I'm going to hazard a guess it's regarding the tariffs that the EU charges and have now expressed a willingness to reduce to zero:

EU Trade Commissioner Maroš Šefčovič said separately that the zero-for-zero deal could cover cars and all other industrial goods, such as chemicals, pharmaceuticals, rubber and plastic machinery.

That's not even touching the Ag tariffs: The EU's weighted average Most Favoured Nation (MFN) tariff for agricultural products is significantly higher (8.4%)

Then our leader needs to articulate that our tariffs drop the second their's do. But he has never articulated what these tariffs are for other than something about the trade deficit which makes no logical sense.
 
Removal of the agricultural tariffs that the EU and Asia have in place would be a massive win for the US framers thats for sure. Assuming that is what we would actually end up at.
 
Please explain.....which MAGAs and which comments lead you to believe one cannot see nuance or details? Because without actual examples, and with examples, specific details, I'm afraid this post comes off as almost all yours do, vacuous.
I am not surprised you can't figure this out for yourself. So, yeah, this post right here is a good example. But, the OP talking about how support for tariffs on China is somehow the same thing as tariffs on every other country on the planet. Support for tariffs on specific items is somehow the same thing as tariffs on everything.
 
Well, he did, but that was before...



Much of that trade surplus is because the Chinese don’t play fair. They don’t let our goods into their country. I can tell you company after company in New York who cannot sell goods in China or can only sell them under impossible conditions.”

“The Chinese make no effort to prevent the ripping off of our intellectual property. These are our crown jewels. The thinking. The great creativity. The great entrepreneurialness of the American business community is just taken, and they shrug their shoulders.”

And worse of all, the Chinese pile on and add unfair rules that violate free trade. And at the top of that list is the fact that the Chinese peg their currency abnormally low, so their exports get a 27 precent advantage here in the U.S. and our imports get a 27 percent disadvantage when sold in China. Every tenet of free trade, if you believe in it, says they should not peg their currency.”

What does this mean for America? It means a huge job loss. We have suffered dramatically in manufacturing jobs, service jobs, and other jobs. It means we have a huge trade deficit. It means the dollar sinks to abysmally low levels, threatening our wealth, and it creates chaos in the whole world trading system.”

“We are fed up, Mr. President. How can we stand by as millions of American workers lose their jobs? As thousands of American companies can’t compete fairly? As our country as a whole has wealth drained from it?”

What we seek is fairness in trade. The Chinese do not play by the rules. We have talked and talked and talked to them. The time for action is now. If not now, when? If not us, who? Millions of American workers and thousands of American businesses look to us to set things right, and today, by passing the Schumer-Graham amendment, we can do that.”



Schumer was for it, before he was against it.
 
Well, he did, but that was before...



Much of that trade surplus is because the Chinese don’t play fair. They don’t let our goods into their country. I can tell you company after company in New York who cannot sell goods in China or can only sell them under impossible conditions.”

“The Chinese make no effort to prevent the ripping off of our intellectual property. These are our crown jewels. The thinking. The great creativity. The great entrepreneurialness of the American business community is just taken, and they shrug their shoulders.”

And worse of all, the Chinese pile on and add unfair rules that violate free trade. And at the top of that list is the fact that the Chinese peg their currency abnormally low, so their exports get a 27 precent advantage here in the U.S. and our imports get a 27 percent disadvantage when sold in China. Every tenet of free trade, if you believe in it, says they should not peg their currency.”

What does this mean for America? It means a huge job loss. We have suffered dramatically in manufacturing jobs, service jobs, and other jobs. It means we have a huge trade deficit. It means the dollar sinks to abysmally low levels, threatening our wealth, and it creates chaos in the whole world trading system.”

“We are fed up, Mr. President. How can we stand by as millions of American workers lose their jobs? As thousands of American companies can’t compete fairly? As our country as a whole has wealth drained from it?”

What we seek is fairness in trade. The Chinese do not play by the rules. We have talked and talked and talked to them. The time for action is now. If not now, when? If not us, who? Millions of American workers and thousands of American businesses look to us to set things right, and today, by passing the Schumer-Graham amendment, we can do that.”


think of tarrifs like a piano. i can make sound come out of a piano but i cannot play the piano. trump has no clue what he's doing.
 
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Removal of the agricultural tariffs that the EU and Asia have in place would be a massive win for the US framers thats for sure. Assuming that is what we would actually end up at.

But we don't even know that is the strategy or purpose. You are just speculating. If that was the strategy or purpose you would logically want to make that known so the other countries know what we want.

If Trump is imposing tariffs to try to get something he should logically first day what it is the hell he wants.
 
Then our leader needs to articulate that our tariffs drop the second their's do. But he has never articulated what these tariffs are for other than something about the trade deficit which makes no logical sense.
Well I have heard that the reason for the tariffs on many places, including the McDonald Islands, is to avoid China having a back door to the US market via another country. Im sure there are myriad reasons, depending on the day, but I did hear that one specifically articulated.
 
Sure, hey Canada, you know how you get to sit there safe as **** from the rest of thw world because nobody is going to attaxk your entire population that lives within a large blast radius of us and you like to be little bitxhes and talk shit and do dumb shit like the trucker shortage and limit dairy?


Swallow some dick.



EU, you're next.

I don't know if you and trump learned this in school, but try to use your words and not just start punching people around you. Both of you are like kids with behavioral problems.
 
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