Scratch Grand Teton off your summer list

[BelemNole]

16 of the 17 training supervisors have been fire.

Trump's firing of 1,000 national park workers raises concerns about maintenance and operating hours

The Trump administration has fired about 1,000 newly hired National Park Service employees as part of its broad-based effort to downsize government.

apnews.com

 

[The Tradition]

Grand Teton doesn't exist without an army of federal workers?

 

[Kelsers]

Grand Teton doesn't exist without an army of federal workers?

Good God you suck.

 

[The Tradition]

Good God you suck.

Really, let's talk about this... WHY is the government basically running tourist attractions? We rightfully preserved these wonderful places, and then we have government employees doing educational talks, guiding people on hikes, collecting money for admissions or parking, working in concessions or gift shops...

NONE OF THOSE JOBS SHOULD BE FEDERAL JOBS. They should be outsourced to private industry.

Park Rangers should only be doing things involving preservation of the land, not running the snack bar.

 

[Joes Place]

Really, let's talk about this... WHY is the government basically running tourist attractions?

Because people often need info and guidance when they're at a park.

Or first aid.

And infrastructure at national parks also needs to be maintained by someone.

Do you ever leave your smoke-filled trailer?

 

[The Tradition]

Because people often need info and guidance when they're at a park.

Or first aid.

And infrastructure at national parks also needs to be maintained by someone.

Do you ever leave your smoke-filled trailer?

Private industry should do the touristy stuff (including maintaining the rest room).

Park Rangers should not be involved with park maintenance. They should be like park cops and doing science stuff.

 

[ConvenientParking]

Private industry should do the touristy stuff (including maintaining the rest room).

Park Rangers should not be involved with park maintenance. They should be like park cops and doing science stuff.

Why should private industry maintain the national parks? I dont buy that at all

 

[HawkNester]

Private industry should do the touristy stuff (including maintaining the rest room).

Park Rangers should not be involved with park maintenance. They should be like park cops and doing science stuff.

That is wrong on so many levels. Just STFU.

 

[ConvenientParking]

Bet it costs a lot more than $100/year to gain entrance to all the national parks when ****in ticketmaster is in charge

 

[SF HAWKEYE]

Yeah but that last training supervisor is really really good.

 

[Hans81]

Good God you suck.

However, the question still stands…you can’t see the Grand Tetons without a federal employee there?

 

[Odinorske]

Why should private industry maintain the national parks? I dont buy that at all

Less expensive and more efficient. Less fraud, graft and waste.

 

[ConvenientParking]

Less expensive and more efficient. Less fraud, graft and waste.

Bullshit dogma.

 

[The Tradition]

Why should private industry maintain the national parks? I dont buy that at all

If there's enough tourist demand to lure an outside company to run things, I guarantee that it will be a better deal for the American taxpayer.

I'm not saying federal Park Rangers would cease to exist. They have their place. But collecting admissions fees isn't one of them. That should not be a federal government employee job.

 

[Hans81]

Because people often need info and guidance when they're at a park.

Or first aid.

And infrastructure at national parks also needs to be maintained by someone.

Do you ever leave your smoke-filled trailer?

However, he already answered your questions…such jobs/tasks could be done by private contractors.

 

[Kelsers]

Really, let's talk about this... WHY is the government basically running tourist attractions? We rightfully preserved these wonderful places, and then we have government employees doing educational talks, guiding people on hikes, collecting money for admissions or parking, working in concessions or gift shops...

NONE OF THOSE JOBS SHOULD BE FEDERAL JOBS. They should be outsourced to private industry.

Park Rangers should only be doing things involving preservation of the land, not running the snack bar.

Stick to your day job.

 

[Bulldogs1974]

Bullshit dogma.

Correct. Often said. Rarely if ever true.

 

[ConvenientParking]

If there's enough tourist demand to lure an outside company to run things, I guarantee that it will be a better deal for the American taxpayer.

I'm not saying federal Park Rangers would cease to exist. They have their place. But collecting admissions fees isn't one of them. That should not be a federal government employee job.

Oh you guarantee it? Well Im convinced it wont be a total scam

 

[hawkeyetraveler]

I am an avid user of our national parks…doing a 4 day hike in the Grand Canyon in 2 weeks. The NPS is one of the jewels of our government.

Trad may not know this, but the parks already outsource a ton of things. If you stay at a hotel in the park near the rim you are staying at a property run by Xanterra for example. The folks that work in those facilities aren’t federal employees.

 

[mthawkeyes]

If there's enough tourist demand to lure an outside company to run things, I guarantee that it will be a better deal for the American taxpayer.

I'm not saying federal Park Rangers would cease to exist. They have their place. But collecting admissions fees isn't one of them. That should not be a federal government employee job.

I think you're on to something. We should model operation of our national treasures based upon our health care system. Is there really any point to having national parks if there isn't a middle man siphoning off 17%?

 

[Hawki97]

I enjoy watching people try too hard.

Especially when they have no phucking clue what they’re talking about.

 

[Scott559]

If there's enough tourist demand to lure an outside company to run things, I guarantee that it will be a better deal for the American taxpayer.

I'm not saying federal Park Rangers would cease to exist. They have their place. But collecting admissions fees isn't one of them. That should not be a federal government employee job.

Did you know the Park service hires between 7 to 8 thousand seasonal workers? The Park Rangers aren’t collecting admission fees. JFC.

 

[The Tradition]

Oh you guarantee it? Well Im convinced it wont be a total scam

The federal government is too big and it costs too much. It's far better to have the bathroom attendants not be on the federal government payroll.

 

[The Tradition]

Did you know the Park service hires between 7 to 8 thousand seasonal workers? The Park Rangers aren’t collecting admission fees. JFC.

The last time I was at a national park there was a uniformed park ranger collecting the entrance fee.

 

[ThorneStockton]

Good God you suck.

Yep. It's one of the worst things about MAGA.

Trad - and others - was and was likely always going to be a shitty, miserable person that decent people would be better off avoiding.

But before MAGA, there were far fewer opportunities to realize it. The Trad's of the world stayed under their rocks. Now, they're compelled to remind us all of the time.

 

[RollingBallofButcherKnives]

Somebody, probably more than one, gonna get eaten by a grizzly bear…

 

[The Tradition]

Yep. It's one of the worst things about MAGA.

Trad - and others - was and was likely always going to be a shitty, miserable person that decent people would be better off avoiding.

But before MAGA, there were far fewer opportunities to realize it. The Trad's of the world stayed under their rocks. Now, they're compelled to remind us all of the time.

I was part of the "government is too big and costs too much" crowd LONG before "MAGA" was a thing.

 

[The Tradition]

Somebody, probably more than one, gonna get eaten by a grizzly bear…

And that's a problem why, exactly?

 

[Scott559]

The last time I was at a national park there was a uniformed park ranger collecting the entrance fee.

Was the Park Ranger that took your money dressed like these seasonal employees?

 

[Hawki97]

And that's a problem why, exactly?

When HORTers joke about never go full trad - you're going full trad in this thread.

Are you drunk right now btw?

 

[RollingBallofButcherKnives]

And that's a problem why, exactly?

Depends on who gets ‘et…
Edit: If serious, park rangers will scare bears away and keep people away when they get too close by the roads or public areas…without them, stupid magas will saunter up to a griz for a selfie….

 

[Hawki97]

Was the Park Ranger that took your money dressed like these seasonal employees?

Let our special little guy go. He’s on a roll.

 

[waterboy4582]

However, the question still stands…you can’t see the Grand Tetons without a federal employee there?

Why bother?

 

[RollingBallofButcherKnives]

However, the question still stands…you can’t see the Grand Tetons without a federal employee there?

You think trucknuts coal roller gonna follow rules without park rangers around?

 

[ThorneStockton]

I was part of the "government is too big and costs too much" crowd LONG before "MAGA" was a thing.

Yes, that's why I said you were a POS before, and likely would still have been without MAGA. But your opportunities to display it, occur much more frequently, and are arguably more deplorable.

I'm not trying to blame MAGA for your monument to human ugliness.

 

[Tom Paris]

Grand Teton doesn't exist without an army of federal workers?

I hate how little empathy you assholes have about people losing their jobs.

 

[The Tradition]

I hate how little empathy you assholes have about people losing their jobs.

Perhaps I am a little jaded after working in HR for 35 years....

 

[millah_22]

Really, let's talk about this... WHY is the government basically running tourist attractions? We rightfully preserved these wonderful places, and then we have government employees doing educational talks, guiding people on hikes, collecting money for admissions or parking, working in concessions or gift shops...

NONE OF THOSE JOBS SHOULD BE FEDERAL JOBS. They should be outsourced to private industry.

Park Rangers should only be doing things involving preservation of the land, not running the snack bar.

It would likely be more expensive to contract companies to do the same exact thing they're already paying federal workers to do.

Should cities contract out all jobs for city parks? Counties with county parks? States with state parks?

 

[Scruddy]

I predict i will still be able to go to and enjoy grand tetons this summer. A huge number of those jobs can be replaced by technology imo

 

[bdcolt45er]

Really, let's talk about this... WHY is the government basically running tourist attractions? We rightfully preserved these wonderful places, and then we have government employees doing educational talks, guiding people on hikes, collecting money for admissions or parking, working in concessions or gift shops...

NONE OF THOSE JOBS SHOULD BE FEDERAL JOBS. They should be outsourced to private industry.

Park Rangers should only be doing things involving preservation of the land, not running the snack bar.

They already do this.

https://www.nps.gov/orgs/1671/do-business-with-us.htm