Holy f*ck this is the worst take I’ve read in weeks.Really, let's talk about this... WHY is the government basically running tourist attractions? We rightfully preserved these wonderful places, and then we have government employees doing educational talks, guiding people on hikes, collecting money for admissions or parking, working in concessions or gift shops...
NONE OF THOSE JOBS SHOULD BE FEDERAL JOBS. They should be outsourced to private industry.
Park Rangers should only be doing things involving preservation of the land, not running the snack bar.
The conservatives don't mind people lining their pockets, but only if it’s them. And that's why you would pay more.No, it should not.
And you'll have to pay them WAY MORE than what you're paying rangers now
If I'm not mistaken Iowa tried that with rest areas.I went off to dinner, came home and found out Trad has done his usual confident stupidity in my thread.
If he had ever been in a park he would know that the worst services you experience in a park are all the private contractors. Yosemite’s historic Ahwahnee lodge is falling apart under private management. Everything is done on the cheap and costs 3 times too much.
Years back Booz Allen took over the federal camping website. Prices tripled, service stayed the same or worse….and the govt gets NONE of the money collected thru the site.
Last time Trump was in office parks were shut down and the public was left unsupervised. The damages are still being repaired today.
So get Aramark to take care of park facilities?Private industry should do the touristy stuff (including maintaining the rest room).
Park Rangers should not be involved with park maintenance. They should be like park cops and doing science stuff.
What an idiot you are.Really, let's talk about this... WHY is the government basically running tourist attractions? We rightfully preserved these wonderful places, and then we have government employees doing educational talks, guiding people on hikes, collecting money for admissions or parking, working in concessions or gift shops...
NONE OF THOSE JOBS SHOULD BE FEDERAL JOBS. They should be outsourced to private industry.
Park Rangers should only be doing things involving preservation of the land, not running the snack bar.
Yes we need immigrants for thatThe federal government is too big and it costs too much. It's far better to have the bathroom attendants not be on the federal government payroll.
I'm currently driving home from hiking five different national parks (Utah and GCNP--sore as hell right now), and I can confirm what you say. NPS probably does more with less than any other federal agency, and its budget is basically a rounding error in the grand scheme (<0.067%). Some people are so blindly anti-government when they perceive it doesn't benefit them that rational thought eludes them. Never thought I'd see the day when the fvcking national parks came under attack by nutjobs but here we are. Not that those types ever get off their asses to explore a national park.I am an avid user of our national parks…doing a 4 day hike in the Grand Canyon in 2 weeks. The NPS is one of the jewels of our government.
Trad may not know this, but the parks already outsource a ton of things. If you stay at a hotel in the park near the rim you are staying at a property run by Xanterra for example. The folks that work in those facilities aren’t federal employees.
You're wrong in virtually every way in this thread, but let's assume for the sake of amusement you're correct about the privatization farce. Do you really think that privatizing some small portion of the NPS will make anything smaller than a pea sized dent in the federal deficit or debt? Or that any of the other targets of these DOGE clowns will for that matter? As others have said, history shows privatization often increases costs long term. You can pretend that we save money on salaries and benefits, but the truth is those costs are baked into the contract rates with private entities, and the market set up by a privatization scheme almost always lacks the scale to provide real competition, thus leaving the taxpayer to pay the same or often higher rates for the same services, just with some private industry lining its pockets instead.Look at how airports are run. Is there a cafeteria run by the airport authority?
No. They don't know anything about serving food.
Instead, they charge an insane amount for rent and private companies fall all over themselves trying to win that coveted space at Gate 77-120....
There are two sides to the "do it for less" analysis. How much does it/will it cost park guests? And how much will it/does it cost the taxpayer?
I would guess that guests will pay more, and the taxpayer will pay less. And I'm greatly in favor of that. Those who use the national parks should foot the majority of the bill.
Grand Teton doesn't exist without an army of federal workers?
FYPPerhaps I am a little jaded because I'm a f'ing stupid asshole.......
I’m curious how a person thinks the park itself is going to create enough of a profit to incentivize a private entity to take over.
The parks themselves don’t turn any profit. All the money made is by surrounding communities. Food, lodging, entertainment.
I fear what private companies would have to do to spark to turn a profit directly off of it.
Yeah it is my second annual rim to rim to rim. Going down south Kaibob, 3 nights in the canyon and on the ascent we will traverse to get to bright angel (parts of bright Angel and all of phantom ranch are closed for waterline repairs - hoping they don’t stop those halfway through out of Doge ignorance).I'm currently driving home from hiking five different national parks (Utah and GCNP--sore as hell right now), and I can confirm what you say. NPS probably does more with less than any other federal agency, and its budget is basically a rounding error in the grand scheme (<0.067%). Some people are so blindly anti-government when they perceive it doesn't benefit them that rational thought eludes them. Never thought I'd see the day when the fvcking national parks came under attack by nutjobs but here we are. Not that those types ever get off their asses to explore a national park.
Anyway, I hope you have a great trip! Four days in the canyon-- are you going rim to rim (to rim)? I was there Monday and yesterday. If you're hiking Bright Angel, it was very icy for the first mile or so down from the rim (until about lower tunnel), but I guess a lot can change in two weeks there. If needed, the general store was selling crampons for $30 a pair. Don't worry @The Tradition, it isn't run by NPS and there wasn't a park ranger working the register, you unnatural noise.
Must. Defend. Trump.If there's enough tourist demand to lure an outside company to run things, I guarantee that it will be a better deal for the American taxpayer.
I'm not saying federal Park Rangers would cease to exist. They have their place. But collecting admissions fees isn't one of them. That should not be a federal government employee job.
How do the non govt bathroom attendants get paid?The federal government is too big and it costs too much. It's far better to have the bathroom attendants not be on the federal government payroll.
The Govt has no business running a military. The Armed forces need to be privatized NOW. There is enough war potential to lure an outside vendor. It would be much better for the American taxpayer.I was part of the "government is too big and costs too much" crowd LONG before "MAGA" was a thing.
You have no clue what it is like having a job outside of being a left wing activist funded by taxpayers.I enjoy watching people try too hard.
Especially when they have no phucking clue what they’re talking about.
How are you doing getting Luigi out of prison?What an idiot you are.
You have no clue what it is like having a job outside of being a left wing activist funded by taxpayers.
You’re a really miserable person. Instead of ridiculing people the Hawkeye Beacon. You need to go to betterhelp.com. You need someone to talk to about dealing with your failures in life.I’ll defer to your experience. If there’s anyone that knows what it’s like to suck the teet of the American taxpayer their whole life it’s a welfare queen from shithole Clayton county Ioway! THE FOOKIN’ HITMAN PLANNING ON CRUSHING SOY BOYS AND SPRITE ON HORT DIS MORNING! (Sorry @LunchBox50 i suck at this)
You’re a really miserable person. Instead of ridiculing people the Hawkeye Beacon. You need to go to betterhelp.com. You need someone to talk to about dealing with your failures in life.
You need to step away from the internet for a while until you can deal with your problems in life. The best things you can do is find some activities that are beneficial to you and society. Instead of being a useless leech.You’re a stupid phuck from shithole Ioway with nothing going on in their life that will never amount to anything and won’t have anyone attend their funeral. But I love you being on HORT. I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again. Never leave here. Please!
You need to step away from the internet for a while until you can deal with your problems in life. The best things you can do is find some activities that are beneficial to you and society. Instead of being a useless leech.
Getting back to the op, what exactly is the job description for a training supervisor?
Tradition is the rivals boards Godfather of bad takes. Top 0.01%.Holy f*ck this is the worst take I’ve read in weeks.
Tx and bummer that it doesn’t have one listed. I have no idea whether we need 1, 17, or 150 at Teton but it certainly doesn’t sound like it has much to do with most of the discussion in this thread, or something that would necessarily dissuade me from visiting Teton. .Like any of the HORT bozos care. Everybody here is about an inch deep when it comes to substance. That said, I’ve found USAjobs a great place to start looking when I wonder what government job descriptions are. Here’s one with NPS even filtered for you on. 1% of the time I’m here to help.
Tx and bummer that it doesn’t have one listed. I have no idea whether we need 1, 17, or 150 at Teton but it certainly doesn’t sound like it has much to do with most of the discussion in this thread, or something that would necessarily dissuade me from visiting Teton. .
This post is super subtlety slutty. Nice work.Yeah it is my second annual rim to rim to rim. Going down south Kaibob, 3 nights in the canyon and on the ascent we will traverse to get to bright angel (parts of bright Angel and all of phantom ranch are closed for waterline repairs - hoping they don’t stop those halfway through out of Doge ignorance).
Good tip on crampons. I have all the necessary gear, last year I was pushing through 3 feet of snow at the north rim without snowshoes. Full hike with side quests is 50 miles, 12K feet of elevation. Should be amazing.
I’m going to rim that canyon like…This post is super subtlety slutty. Nice work.
I’m glad you’re finally looking for a job. It’s a start in the right direction for turning your life around.Like any of the HORT bozos care. Everybody here is about an inch deep when it comes to substance. That said, I’ve found USAjobs a great place to start looking when I wonder what government job descriptions are. Here’s one with NPS even filtered for you. 1% of the time I’m here to help.
No one said it would completely close down dip.Just googled “Grand Tetons National Park to close down”. Not coming up with anything other than seasonal closures for certain areas of the park. OP appears to be full of shit.
DA HAWKI97 NEEDS TO GET OUT OF DA INTERSTATE BATHHOUSES AND STOP EATING ALL DA SEMEN AND SOY, AND QUIT BEING A RADICAL MARXIST LEECH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MAYBE IF THAT LIBTAHD LOSAH WOULD STOP WORSHIPING DA BERNIE AND DA SQUAD AND DA CHE GUEVARA AND DA BERRIES HUSSEIN, HE COULD BE A TRUE FOOKIN ALPHA DAWG PATRIOT LIKE ME AND DA HAWKEYE HITMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE OWN SOUTHERN CLAYTON COUNTY AND ALWAYS HAVE A FRIDGE FULL OF ICE COLD CANS OF SPRITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE GET ALL DA RURAL IOWA PUSS AND CAN'T WAIT FOR TRUMP TO MAKE DA ILLEGALS BUILD DA CASSVILLE BRIDGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AFTER THAT, ALL YOU LEFTIST SOCIALISTS WHO LOVE DA DEEP STATE WILL BE TAKEN OUT BY TRUMP AND DA ELON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!You need to step away from the internet for a while until you can deal with your problems in life. The best things you can do is find some activities that are beneficial to you and society. Instead of being a useless leech.
Look at how airports are run.
So then we don’t have to scratch it off our list then, dumbfvck.No one said it would completely close down dip.
Really, let's talk about this... WHY is the government basically running tourist attractions? We rightfully preserved these wonderful places, and then we have government employees doing educational talks, guiding people on hikes, collecting money for admissions or parking, working in concessions or gift shops...
NONE OF THOSE JOBS SHOULD BE FEDERAL JOBS. They should be outsourced to private industry.
Park Rangers should only be doing things involving preservation of the land, not running the snack bar.