So now, we have a week between games and then play four in ten days. Did the Minnesota game get re-scheduled or was this the original plan? Either way, it doesn't do us any favors.
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Should be illegal not to have a weekend game. Talk about killing interest and alienating fans. Do we have more home weekend games for football than basketball?
1 Saturday home Big Ten game - Penn State
what??? that's crazy..
3 of the 10 Iowa B1G home games are on the weekend.
Monday Dec 6 Illinois
Monday Jan 3 Maryland
Thurs Jan 13 vs Indiana
Sat Jan 22 vs Penn State, Time TBA
Thur Jan 27 vs Purdue
Sun Feb 6 vs Minnesota, 3:30 PM
Sun Feb 13 vs Nebraska, 2:00 PM
Thur Feb 17 vs Michigan
Tue Feb 22 vs MSU
Mon Feb 28 vs Northwestern
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That's not ok. it's not like we play 2 games during the week and 1 weekend. That's a terrible thing for your fanbase.
Back before TV took over sports, the BIG played a Thursday-Saturday schedule. Every team played every Thursday and every Saturday. Then TV said let's put some games on Sunday. And the evolution now has 14 teams playing every day of the week at a half-dozen different times of day and night. No wonder attendance is down almost everywhere, and I don't see it getting any better, ever.
But congrats to Gary Barta for getting 10 percent of Iowa's home BIG games on Saturday and 20% on Sunday. Quite the accomplishment. GB's got some mighty clout when it comes to Iowa basketball, obviously.
But congrats to Gary Barta for getting 10 percent of Iowa's home BIG games on Saturday and 20% on Sunday. Quite the accomplishment. GB's got some mighty clout when it comes to Iowa basketball, obviously.
Nah, need more 8pm weekday games
If he's not b1tching hardcore about scheduling then he's a fool!
Maybe he is, maybe not
He could complain all he wants. Not going to change anything.
i would love to see how the games are selected by the networks and how dates/times are assigned because when you think about it, you have BTN, ESPN, ESPN2, Fox, FS1, CBS, etc, all selecting games for various time slots.
The goal of the B1G is to maximize revenue, and they seem to be doing a good job at that.
Iowa seems to do a good job selling tickets because we seem to always be in the top 25 in "attendance." Scanned tickets, of course, is a much different number.
Barta has nothing to do with conf. schedules. Its decided by conf. then tv. He can complain but wont do any good. Big10 never used to play monday games til this year i believe.
Ive said this in multiple threads when everyone bashes carver and attendence. In the BTN era Iowa gets KILLED in favorable games from a fan perspective. Nearly every weekend game is a road game, the very few weekend conference home games generally have undesirable dates or start times, and often they are left TBA making it difficult for some of us to plan those games in advance. And of course we get stuck with the mountain of 8PM weeknight start times. During winter I hate waiting to watch those games, and attending them in person means getting home at 1AM or later on a school night. So those are almost always out for those of us that want to go as families.
And as someone said later in the thread, Barta doesnt control the schedule. He doesn't, but he does have a lot of pull in the whole scheme of college athletics. But as he's ineffective at most facets of his job, that influence that could help Iowa athletics is being wasted.
Sure, Barta could tell the B1G offices he'd like more weekend home games but every B1G AD wants that. The B1G is not going to do any special favors for any ONE school. So, I think you are wrong when you say that Barta's influence is being wasted.
Should a Friday night game be considered a weekend game? I guess you could say it is.
So, if you count Friday night, Iowa has
3 weekend HOME games
4 weekend AWAY games
Just a one game difference.
Pick a random B1G team and see if their schedule looks any better than Iowa.
And should Iowa fans be complaining about a home game with a 2pm or 3:30pm start time on a Sunday?
There is only one weekend home game with a TBA (Saturday, Jan 22, vs PSU) but at least it's not a school night.
And to be fair, for the Iowa weekday games, Iowa fans for years now have bitched about either the 6 pm (too early; can't get away from work) or 8 pm (too late, have to get kids to bed) start times. But playing on weekdays is part of the deal.
4 Weekend Games: Iowa's Road Schedule:
Fri Dec 3 at Purdue
Thur Jan 6 at Wisconsin
Sun Jan 16 at Minnesota, Time TBA
Wed Jan 19 at Rutgers
Mon Jan 31 at Penn State
Thur Feb 3 at Ohio State
Thur Feb 10 at Maryland
Fri Feb 25 at Nebraska, 8:00 PM CT
Thur March 3 at Michigan
Sun March 6 at Illinois, 6:30 PM CT
3 Weekend Games: Iowa's Home Schedule:
Monday Dec 6 Illinois
Monday Jan 3 Maryland
Thurs Jan 13 vs Indiana
Sat Jan 22 vs Penn State, Time TBA
Thur Jan 27 vs Purdue
Sun Feb 6 vs Minnesota, 3:30 PM
Sun Feb 13 vs Nebraska, 2:00 PM
Thur Feb 17 vs Michigan
Tue Feb 22 vs MSU
Mon Feb 28 vs Northwestern
good points.
regarding your Monday comment, I don't recall when the B1G started playing Monday night games. But this year Iowa is playing at least 1 conference game on Mon, Tues, Wed, Thur, Fri, Sat and Sun. As some pointed out, years ago we used to play on Thur and Sat only.
You really have to pay attention to the schedule because games can really sneak up on you.
If you compare OSU's schedule to Iowa's, there's definitely some unfairness.
If you count Friday night games as weekend games, Ohio State has:
7 weekend HOME B1G games (Iowa has 3)
5 weekend AWAY B1G games (Iowa has 4)
OSU's Home Schedule (7 Weekend Games vs 3 for IOWA):
Sat Dec 11, vs Wisconsin
Sun Jan 9, vs Northwestern, 5:30 pm CT
Sun Jan 16 vs PSU, Time TBA
Sat Jan 22 vs Nebraska, Time TBA
Thur Feb 3 vs Iowa, 8 pm CT
Sun Feb 6 vs Maryland, 1 pm CT
Tues Feb 15, vs Minnesota, 8:30 pm CT
Sat Feb 19 vs Indianna, 12 pm CT
Thur March 3 vs MSU, 7 pm CT
Sun March 6 vs Michigan, 12:30 pm CT
OSU's Road Schedule (5 Weekend Games vs 4 for IOWA):
Sun Dec 5, at PSU
Sun Jan 2, at Nebraska
Thur Jan 6, at Indiana
Thurs Jan 13, at Wisconsin
Thurs Jan 27 at Minnesota
Sun Jan 30 at Purdue, 12 pm CT
Wed Feb 9 at Rutgers
Sat Feb 12 at Michigan, 6 pm CT
Thur Feb 24 at Illinois
Sun Feb 27 at Maryland, 4 pm CT
If you count Friday night games as weekend games, Ohio State has:
7 weekend HOME B1G games (Iowa has 3)
5 weekend AWAY B1G games (Iowa has 4)
OSU's Home Schedule (7 Weekend Games vs 3 for IOWA):
Sat Dec 11, vs Wisconsin
Sun Jan 9, vs Northwestern, 5:30 pm CT
Sun Jan 16 vs PSU, Time TBA
Sat Jan 22 vs Nebraska, Time TBA
Thur Feb 3 vs Iowa, 8 pm CT
Sun Feb 6 vs Maryland, 1 pm CT
Tues Feb 15, vs Minnesota, 8:30 pm CT
Sat Feb 19 vs Indianna, 12 pm CT
Thur March 3 vs MSU, 7 pm CT
Sun March 6 vs Michigan, 12:30 pm CT
OSU's Road Schedule (5 Weekend Games vs 4 for IOWA):
Sun Dec 5, at PSU
Sun Jan 2, at Nebraska
Thur Jan 6, at Indiana
Thurs Jan 13, at Wisconsin
Thurs Jan 27 at Minnesota
Sun Jan 30 at Purdue, 12 pm CT
Wed Feb 9 at Rutgers
Sat Feb 12 at Michigan, 6 pm CT
Thur Feb 24 at Illinois
Sun Feb 27 at Maryland, 4 pm CT
OSU has seven home games on a Saturday (two) or Sunday (five). Iowa has three (1 Sat - 2 Sun). Makes sense.
If you compare Michigan State's schedule to Iowa's, there's also definitely some unfairness.
If you count Friday night games as weekend games, Michigan State has:
7 weekend HOME B1G games (Iowa has 3)
4 weekend AWAY B1G games (Iowa has 4)
Also note that MSU has a home game over the last 4 weekends of the season. And look who they play. How great for their fans.
MSU's Home B1G Schedule (7 Weekend Games vs 3 for IOWA):
Sat Dec 11 vs PSU
Wed Jan 5 vs Nebraska
Wed Jan 12 vs Minnesota
Sat Jan 15 vs Northwestern
Sat Jan 29 vs Michigan
Tues Feb 8 vs Wisconsin
Sat Feb 12 vs Indiana
Sat Feb 19 vs Illinois
Sat Feb 26 vs Purdue
Sun Mar 6 vs Maryland
MSU's Road B1G Schedule (4 Weekend Games vs 4 for IOWA):
Wed Dec 8 at Minnesota
Sun Jan 2 at Northwestern
Sat Jan 8 at Michigan (postponed)
Fri Jan 21 at Wisconsin
Tues Jan 25 at Illinois
Tues Feb 1 at Maryland
Sat Feb 5 at Rutgers
Tues Feb 15 at PSU
Tues Feb 22 at Iowa
Thur March 3 at OSU
If you count Friday night games as weekend games, Michigan State has:
7 weekend HOME B1G games (Iowa has 3)
4 weekend AWAY B1G games (Iowa has 4)
Also note that MSU has a home game over the last 4 weekends of the season. And look who they play. How great for their fans.
MSU's Home B1G Schedule (7 Weekend Games vs 3 for IOWA):
Sat Dec 11 vs PSU
Wed Jan 5 vs Nebraska
Wed Jan 12 vs Minnesota
Sat Jan 15 vs Northwestern
Sat Jan 29 vs Michigan
Tues Feb 8 vs Wisconsin
Sat Feb 12 vs Indiana
Sat Feb 19 vs Illinois
Sat Feb 26 vs Purdue
Sun Mar 6 vs Maryland
MSU's Road B1G Schedule (4 Weekend Games vs 4 for IOWA):
Wed Dec 8 at Minnesota
Sun Jan 2 at Northwestern
Sat Jan 8 at Michigan (postponed)
Fri Jan 21 at Wisconsin
Tues Jan 25 at Illinois
Tues Feb 1 at Maryland
Sat Feb 5 at Rutgers
Tues Feb 15 at PSU
Tues Feb 22 at Iowa
Thur March 3 at OSU
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Actually, OSU has 3 Saturday home B1G games and 4 Sunday home B1G games. And the Sunday times are very convenient.
And MSU? They have 6 Saturday home B1G games and 1 Sunday home B1G game. And the Sunday time is very convenient (4:30 pm CT).
So everyone wants to complain that life in the B1g isn’t fair for Iowa. The simple answer is to improve the product you’re trying to sell. Money is everything in this now, and hate to break it to you, but Iowa ain’t on top of the list for college basketball viewers. Win more and reap the benefits that follow.
I did as you asked and picked a random team. Wisconsin. They have 6 weekend home games this year. Hawkeyes have 3 as per your detailed explanation.
That's literally twice as many. Not sure how it would work out if it I picked a different team, but literally the random one I picked proved my point.
Hard to build a home court advantage when handicapped with inferior game schedules at home.
Thank you.
Note that OSU and MSU have 7 Sat or Sun home B1G games out of 10.
I honestly thought scheduling was more fair. I guess TV has all the say and power?
Also note that MSU has a home game over the last 4 weekends of the season. And look who they play. How great for their fans.
Sat Feb 12 vs Indiana
Sat Feb 19 vs Illinois
Sat Feb 26 vs Purdue
Sun Mar 6 vs Maryland
Yep. And the BTN has brought a ton of revenue to conference schools and we are certainly willing to take the money so you I guess the fans get the short end of the stick. It is what it is. TV and their billions run sports today so I guess if we want to be a fan and follow our teams, we either adjust and do the best we can to see games in person or we don’t.
This is true...and at the end of the day, it is what it is. I think it sucks but it is revenue which trumps anything else.
That said and it is what I always say about scheduling......look to the schedule first and throw in risk factors to why teams do better than others. As an example....Maryland had their their first true road game playing at Carver on January 3rd and they lost.....seriously?
Now Maryland sucks this year but they are still very talented....another risk factor, they can take a cab ride around the Maryland/DC area to find a few great HS BB players to fill a roster of 10 to 14 bb talents....but to schedule their first true road game on 1/3 of a season is a HUGE benefit to Maryland. Along with weekend home games and such highlighted in this thread .....well........It's crazy bad and not a level playing field at ALL. Damn right I think Iowa should have the same amount of weekend home games in Carver comparable to other teams......heck ya...why not?
I watch BTN a lot and it's funny and I am guilty as well at who is the flavor team of the day/week they talk about most and it's has a lot to do with scheduling and who is winning. Now, we know there are a few teams doing well and they are very talented teams too but the scheduling and who they play and where they play is a huge risk factor you have to consider......home and away.
As an example....watching Minny, I was high on them a few weeks ago but their schedule has turned tough with a home loss to the Illini, a road loss to IU in Bloomington and now they travel to MSU on Thursday before we travel to play them at the Barn on Sunday. Rutgers is another team....tough at home, lambs on the road.
Point being for Iowa.....their schedule of opening up on the road at Mackey against PU w/o Kenyon and home against the Illini with a rehabbing Kenyon not anywhere near 100% and at home against Maryland (W) and then on the road against a very good Wisky team who we've beat the past 3 games we've played them and with a healthy Kenyon has been a very tasking schedule to start the B1G season.....
I've said.....the league is tough home and away.....give some rope and let it play out. We are not uber talented but we are talented enough and do need the win at home against IU before we head up to the Barn on Sunday.
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As I've said before, if we started the season with Michigan State's B1G schedule, things might be looking a lot rosier right now.
Went ahead and compared Iowa to Nebraska, since they are the worst team in the league.
Nebraska has 6 weekend road games (if you include Fridays). 1 Friday, 3 Saturday, 2 Sunday.
They have 5 weekend home games (2 Friday, 2 Saturday, 1 Sunday).
This is crazy. Iowa should not have only 3 weekend home games. I get the conference favorites getting 1-2 more, but come on. This is the definition of dumb. How in the hell does Nebraska get 11 weekend games, and Iowa 7?
thanks for looking into Nebraska's home schedule, Dodger
@TomKakert , any idea how Iowa ends up with just 3 weekend B1G home games out of 10 where Nebraska gets 5 and MSU & OSU get 7?
I thought there was more fairness among the 14 member schools; I was obviously naive in thinking that.
The answer to your questions are almost always TV related. That's why we have 8 pm tips during the week. TV revenue drives everything these days.
Speaking naive, I always believed that the conference schedule was picked by a computer and that eventually everything would even out. I thought the conference said as much several years ago. I guess the plan has changed for $ sakes.
Here's a little bit of the timing:
May 13, 2021:
The Big Ten Conference revealed a breakdown of all 14 schools’ conference opponents for the 2021-22 Big Ten men’s basketball season. Dates, times and TV information were to be announced at a later date.
So, for each school they only showed this much info:
IOWA
Home & Away – Illinois, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Nebraska, Penn State, Purdue
Home Only – Indiana, Michigan State, Northwestern
Away Only – Ohio State, Rutgers, Wisconsin
LINK:
https://bigten.org/news/2021/5/13/2021-22-big-ten-mens-basketball-conference-opponent-breakdown.aspx
Sep 8, 2021:
The Big Ten announced the 2021-22 men's basketball schedule, giving a full breakdown of its 140 men’s basketball conference games for all 14 schools for the 2021-22 season as revealed on Big Ten Network.
Television network designations and start times were be announced at a later date.
This is when we found out we would open at Purdue on Dec 3 and host Illinois on Dec 6 (but no TV or time info, of course).
The link to that announcement, where they listed the complete 2021-22 Big Ten men’s basketball conference schedule:
Big Ten Announces 2021-22 Men’s Basketball Schedule
The Big Ten announced Wednesday a full breakdown of its 140 men’s basketball conference games for all 14 schools for the 2021-22 season as revealed on Big Ten Network.
bigten.org
October 5, 2021:
The Big Ten announced the start times and television designations for the 2021-22 men's basketball conference schedule, which includes all 140 contests set to be broadcast nationally.
The conference also revealed tip times and network assignments for select non-conference games.
Link to that story:
https://bigten.org/news/2021/10/5/big-ten-unveils-2021-22-mens-basketball-television-schedule.aspx
Finally, a home weekend game. And then we have just 2 more of those: Sun Feb 6 vs Minnesota and
Sun Feb 13 vs Nebraska.
These weekend games make a difference. Saturday's game is a sell out.
As noted above, just 3 of the 10 Iowa B1G home games are on the weekend. Note that the Sunday Feb 13 game is Super Bowl Sunday; the basketball game will be getting over close to kick off of the Super Bowl.
Let's face it; we got screwed big time by the B1G.
Iowa's 3 B1G home games that are on the weekend:
Sat Jan 22 vs Penn State, 3:30 PM CT
Sun Feb 6 vs Minnesota, 3:30 PM CT
Sun Feb 13 vs Nebraska, 2:00 PM CT
As noted above, just 3 of the 10 Iowa B1G home games are on the weekend. Note that the Sunday Feb 13 game is Super Bowl Sunday; the basketball game will be getting over close to kick off of the Super Bowl.
Let's face it; we got screwed big time by the B1G.
Iowa's 3 B1G home games that are on the weekend:
Sat Jan 22 vs Penn State, 3:30 PM CT
Sun Feb 6 vs Minnesota, 3:30 PM CT
Sun Feb 13 vs Nebraska, 2:00 PM CT
It looks like Purdue leads the B1G with 8 of their 10 B1G home games falling on the weekend.
8 of 10: Purdue has 2 Friday night home B1G games, 2 Saturday home B1G games and 4 Sunday home B1G games. And the Sunday times are very convenient.
7 of 10: OSU has 3 Saturday home B1G games and 4 Sunday home B1G games. And the Sunday times are very convenient.
7 of 10: MSU has 6 Saturday home B1G games and 1 Sunday home B1G game. And the Sunday time is very convenient (4:30 pm CT).
6 of 10: Wisconsin has 1 Friday night home B1G game, 2 Saturday home B1G games and 3 Sunday home B1G games. And the Sunday times are very convenient.
5 of 10: Nebraska has 2 Friday night home B1G games, 2 Saturday home B1G games and 1 Sunday home B1G game.
3 of 10: IOWA has 1 Saturday home B1G game and 2 Sunday home B1G games (Feb 6 and Feb 13, where the game will end around 4:00 pm CT).
****Feb 13, for course, is Super Bowl Sunday, with kickoff shortly after the Iowa game ends.****
8 of 10: Purdue has 2 Friday night home B1G games, 2 Saturday home B1G games and 4 Sunday home B1G games. And the Sunday times are very convenient.
7 of 10: OSU has 3 Saturday home B1G games and 4 Sunday home B1G games. And the Sunday times are very convenient.
7 of 10: MSU has 6 Saturday home B1G games and 1 Sunday home B1G game. And the Sunday time is very convenient (4:30 pm CT).
6 of 10: Wisconsin has 1 Friday night home B1G game, 2 Saturday home B1G games and 3 Sunday home B1G games. And the Sunday times are very convenient.
5 of 10: Nebraska has 2 Friday night home B1G games, 2 Saturday home B1G games and 1 Sunday home B1G game.
3 of 10: IOWA has 1 Saturday home B1G game and 2 Sunday home B1G games (Feb 6 and Feb 13, where the game will end around 4:00 pm CT).
****Feb 13, for course, is Super Bowl Sunday, with kickoff shortly after the Iowa game ends.****
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