Secret Scrimmage
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I hope the starting lineup is more of a positive indicator for Sandfort, than a hint that Fran has not been overwhelmed with Ulis and Bowen. I think the rotation would be better with them playing most of the PG minutes and Sandfort playing primarily at 3/4. Disappointing if Mulvey hasn't progressed into a role beyond benchwarmer.
They recruited multiple bigs in the portal after Ogundele came back as was proven to you multiple times
Uhhhh......Austin Ash?
Using that extra scholarship. IMHO, just a reward for the practice work.
That's not really shocking, is it? Perkins played some PG last year and got increased minutes toward the end of the season.
McC said that Tony was one of the players he could put at PG. It's exactly situations like a "private" scrimmage where he should try out different combinations. I personally think that a lineup with Tony and Kris with Kris being the playmaker/point forward would be an exciting lineup.
How was the rebounding? That to me is a strong indicator of how the Hawks will do this season. Gotta rebound to win.
Yeah, Perkins at the point makes me nervous. Still remember him getting his pocket picked in a close game against Indiana When he was bringing the ball up.
In other Big Ten play, Illinois played Kansas yesterday. Reports from both Illinois and Kansas had Illinois winning by about 15. Shannon with 24. Melendez and Clark with 18. Ty Rodgers was a couple of assists short of a triple double.
Itās just a glorified practice, though, so the score is less important than getting to work on things against another top program.
Bad news is that Luke Goode, probably 8th man and a great shooter, hurt his ankle and will out for an extended period of time.
Itās just a glorified practice, though, so the score is less important than getting to work on things against another top program.
Bad news is that Luke Goode, probably 8th man and a great shooter, hurt his ankle and will out for an extended period of time.
Thank for the info! And I don't understand the post from IllQChawk you responded to ... it almost implies that Mulvey is getting cheated out of time and he should be mad?
That starting lineup certainly seems to be the most explosive offensively and we know Fran is all about the offense.
Looking forward to seeing who starts this year and how that changes as the year goes on.
Yeah I really like that starting five from an offensive perspective. Unsure how much of a liability they could be defensively, but I mean how much worse could they be than the typically subpar Iowa defenses? But I also wonder about their ball handling abilities and distribution.
Very long starting 5 too. 6-4, 6-7, 6-9, 6-8, and 6-9.
And Payton is over 6'8" now, he said closer to 6'9". That makes it Tony at 6'4" plus 4 others at ~6'9". All can run. Iowa should be able to run with most teams if they can hit the boards.
Perfect for Fran's style.
I really don't know what to expect from this squad. I feel like this season could go two different ways rather easily. I don't recall this feeling in year's past where I was as equally sure we could win the Big Ten as I was we could miss the NCAA tournament.
B1G analyst, Tre Demps, said he watched an iowa practice last week and he said he was impressed with Iowaās depth at point guard, starting with Perkins at that spot.
So, I donāt think Perkins starting in a scrimmage is an experiment.
It could mean Payton is playing so well that he gets the start at 2. It could mean Fran is worried about the play of his centers and feels he needs to add rebounding.
I think Fran just prefers Perkinsā game face/attitude right now: heās always like ādammit, letās just do it!ā
Another word for that might be leadership.
So, I donāt think Perkins starting in a scrimmage is an experiment.
It could mean Payton is playing so well that he gets the start at 2. It could mean Fran is worried about the play of his centers and feels he needs to add rebounding.
I think Fran just prefers Perkinsā game face/attitude right now: heās always like ādammit, letās just do it!ā
Another word for that might be leadership.
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If Sandfort is starting at 2, it seems to leave Connor to sub at 3/4, with our best bench guys all guards (assuming the centers aren't among the best bench guys). Not sure I like how that rotation sets up, even if it gets our 5 best players in the starting lineup.
Although I do like Connor at the 4 sometimes. He brings a different energy, especially if it turns into a knife fight under the basket.
Yeah I'm beginning to think that it's likely not an experiment and what we are going with to start the year. Like others have stated, I have concerns about how Payton matches up defending opposing 2s, but I'll trust that they know what they are doing.
Hopefully it means Fran goes a bit more shallow on the bench than he has done in the past and he goes away from "hockey" lineup changes. My guess is Kris and Pat play 30 mpg during contested games. With Connor's versatility to play 1-4 and Kris being able to play small-ball 5, that leaves us with plenty of flexibility on subbing. Ogundele and/or Mulvey giving us quality 3-5 minute subs will help with this as well. JO may not be in shape to go for 7-10 minute stretches, but that should be more than okay most nights. If he comes in and is a bruising nuisance for 4 minutes a half, that would help the team a ton.
Demps also said Sandfort never missed a shot during the practice he watched.
Perkins at pg reminds me of Andre Banks. He wasnāt a pg when he came to Iowa. But he worked hard and became a pretty good pg.
Banks was a willing PG, but I don't ever remember him being good. He had a worse shot than Connor. Perkins is a gamer!
Led the team in assists for 3 straight years.
Held school record for steals in a game and season.
Drafted by the Houston Rockets
His shot was quite terrible until his senior year. Raveling insisted on making a point guard out of him and it was a rough transition, but his senior year he was pretty good.
Not sure but it was said that Rebraca looked good all day and that Kris was the best player. Kris did not shoot well from 3 well so one could surmise that he hit the boards, but I'm not certain.
Kansas City better be a team Rebraca dominates in the post
Peyton is one of our Top 3-4 players imo, but if he starts with Perkins at PG I don't really like our rotations very much, because our bench squad is Mulvey, Bowen, Ulis and Connor and there just isn't enough scoring punch there, while the starters almost have too many such that you can't use all of them at the same time so each of them gets fewer attempts. Having Sandfort coming off the bench and either Bowen, Ulis or Connor starting to me is a much better plan across all 40 minutes. If one of them starts, it's likely one of the PG's which means Perkins is better at the 2G.
Perkins will get all the offense he wants from the 2G spot, there is no reason to make him bring the ball up and inidiate the offense for him to score. The only reason to play him at PG is to get a better player into the starting 5, but as I mentioned I'm not sure maximizing the starting 5 is the best plan here. Peyton should have the same role as Keegan 2 years ago and Kris last year, and he should play 25+ mpg off the bench because he'll end up as our 2nd highest PER player this year I'd bet.
Sounds like they may be going with Perkins at PG perhaps, so hopefully we never get stuck with bad rotational groups in there around the 14 minute mark of the 1st and 2nd halves.
I was laughed at on this board when I suggested that exact starting lineup a few months ago.
I understand that logic but it's not like you have to do a wholesale substitution of the starting 5.
Fran might bring 1 or 2 guys off the bench early rather than waiting for a foul or fatigue issue.
I personally like getting your most talented guys in at the start to try to set the tone of the game early.
Being an old wrestler itās interesting to me to hear you alls takes on all thisā¦.. To my untrained eye it looked to me like Sandfort has a really high ceiling and wished he were getting more minutes last yearā¦ā¦I canāt imagine our defense not being better with JBO moving on
The Hawk men and women are literally the only bball I watch but I catch every game I can
The Hawk men and women are literally the only bball I watch but I catch every game I can
I saw that Kentucky does a Blue/White scrimmage and they play in a small arena. Looks like a fun evening - can we do something like that? Did we ever do this in the past? Here's another fun idea. A little extravaganza evening(perhaps Homecoming weekend?) with the men's and women's team. Three point contest, skills contest, a little co-ed 3-on-3 tourney. It would just be a little too much fun and drum up some EXCITMENT for attending games at CARVER. Please do this.
Iām thinking Payton can have a larger role on this team than Kris had for us last year. Rotations get funky, but thatās where Connor helps.
Yeah, I mean Perkins essentially shared PG during the stretch run w/ JBo, where they both initiated Offense. I am not too worried about who starts. My guess is that at end of game when they need to hold a small lead, will likely be Perkins and CMac on the floor (at least to start out).
Perkins is just a winner and a bulldog. He will make things happen in a positive way.
I also liked the idea of Peyton coming off the bench (even if he ultimately has starter minutes) because the reserves could have issues scoring, especially with Fran's tendency to sub in two or three bench guys at once. On the other hand, there is something to be said for just getting your best five on the floor. I think last season's lineup change to get Perkins in the lineup was an effort to do this and worked out well. But last year's team had better scoring options off the bench (Peyton and Kris).
Starting Peyton means there are probably more minutes out there for Dix. Hopefully he can fill Peyton's role from last year. And hopefully Connor shoots it like he did at the end of last season. And hopefully Bowen lives up to his promise as a scoring guard. If those things are true, maybe bench scoring isn't an issue.
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