Senator Ron Johnson hosts expert forum on COVID vaccines on Capitol Hill

[naturalbornhawk]

Pretty interesting discussion.

SENATOR RON JOHNSON HOSTS EXPERT FORUM ON COVID VACCINES - The HighWire

U.S. Senator Ron Johnson hears testimony from world-renowned experts in Public Health, Science, Medicine, Law, and Journalism, in a public forum titled, ‘Covid-19 Vaccines: What They Are, How They Work, and Possible Causes of Injuries,’ held in the U.S. Senate’s Hart Building, on Capitol Hill...

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[Crimea River]

Everything is fine and Johnson is an anti-vax weirdo. But something is decimating Europe; is it long covid or is it the heat? Those are the ONLY possibilities, right?

Excess mortality in the EU climbed to +16% in July 2022 from +7% in both June and May. This was the highest value on record so far in 2022, amounting to around 53 000 additional deaths in July this year compared with the monthly averages for 2016-2019.

Excess mortality continued to vary across the EU Member States, with eight Member States recording values above the EU average. The highest rates in July 2022, more than double the EU average, were recorded in Spain (+37%) and Cyprus (+33%). Greece followed with +31%.

This was an unusually high value for this month. The excess mortality rate was +3% in July 2020 (10 000 excess deaths) and +6% in July 2021 (21 000 excess deaths). Based on the available information, some of the mortality increase in July 2022 compared to the same month of the past two years may be due to the heatwaves that have affected parts of Europe during the reference period.

Excess mortality hits +16%, highest 2022 value so far

Excess mortality in the EU climbed to +16% in July 2022 from +7% in both June and May. This was the highest value on record so far in 2022, amounting to around 53 000 additional deaths in July this year compared with the monthly averages for 2016-2019. This was an unusually high value for this...

ec.europa.eu

 

[naturalbornhawk]

Everything is fine and Johnson is an anti-vax weirdo. But something is decimating Europe; is it long covid or is it the heat? Those are the ONLY possibilities, right?

Excess mortality in the EU climbed to +16% in July 2022 from +7% in both June and May. This was the highest value on record so far in 2022, amounting to around 53 000 additional deaths in July this year compared with the monthly averages for 2016-2019.

Excess mortality continued to vary across the EU Member States, with eight Member States recording values above the EU average. The highest rates in July 2022, more than double the EU average, were recorded in Spain (+37%) and Cyprus (+33%). Greece followed with +31%.

This was an unusually high value for this month. The excess mortality rate was +3% in July 2020 (10 000 excess deaths) and +6% in July 2021 (21 000 excess deaths). Based on the available information, some of the mortality increase in July 2022 compared to the same month of the past two years may be due to the heatwaves that have affected parts of Europe during the reference period.

Excess mortality hits +16%, highest 2022 value so far

Excess mortality in the EU climbed to +16% in July 2022 from +7% in both June and May. This was the highest value on record so far in 2022, amounting to around 53 000 additional deaths in July this year compared with the monthly averages for 2016-2019. This was an unusually high value for this...

ec.europa.eu

Thank goodness we know it's not the vaccines because the manufacturers and government officials (and Joe) assured us that vaccines are safe.

 

[naturalbornhawk]

What's the matter HROT, could it be

 

[fredjr82]

What's the matter HROT, could it be

No. Unfortunately for you, you've reached the "Nnobody takes you seriously or gives a shit what you say" status. You join a few others who beat you there, but you made it. Congratulations 🎊

 

[Crimea River]

What's the matter HROT, could it be

They’re too busy talking about the suspicious death of some soccer guy, completely disregarding the fact that health experts have already told us what causes them all: SADS.

 

[naturalbornhawk]

No. Unfortunately for you, you've reached the "Nnobody takes you seriously or gives a shit what you say" status. You join a few others who beat you there, but you made it. Congratulations 🎊

Hey, almost 300 clicks and nobody contradicting any of the presented information. That's a pretty good sign that you were probably right all along, with trolls showing up telling you no one cares LOL.

 

[naturalbornhawk]

They’re too busy talking about the suspicious death of some soccer guy, completely disregarding the fact that health experts have already told us what causes them all: SADS.

I don't knoooooowww, how can we be sure it wasn't something he ate? 😆

 

[Joes Place]

But something is decimating Europe

Nothing is "decimating Europe" except Russian invasions.

 

[Joes Place]

some of the mortality increase in July 2022 compared to the same month of the past two years may be due to the heatwaves that have affected parts of Europe during the reference period.

So, not vaccines...

WHew!!!!

 

[naturalbornhawk]

No. Unfortunately for you, you've reached the "Nnobody takes you seriously or gives a shit what you say" status. You join a few others who beat you there, but you made it. Congratulations 🎊

Nothing against HROT, to be fair, if you listened to the vid they indicated that they invited all the "experts" to present the other side in a debate format.

Just think of it. An expert panel on Capitol Hill to systematically dismantle each and every moronic misinformed idea these fringe nobodies have and make them look like complete morons in front of the entire world.

Guess who showed up? Yep, you're right. Nobody cared enough to present the pro-COVID vaccine end. On the side, it reminds me a little of the time RFK showed up to take on 6 experts in a broadcasted debate regarding the child vaccine schedule. Guess who actually showed up, and on the other end guess who threatened the 6 and then backed out last minute? RFK flew his ass hundreds of miles to take them all on himself and the 6 backed out last minute. Misinformation my ass.

That should tell the critical thinker all they should need to know about whether the "mis" information presented has any credibility.

So yeah, nothing against HROT, the so-called "experts" can't counter the truth either.

 

[Joes Place]

Nothing against HROT, to be fair, if you listened to the vid they indicated that they invited all the "experts" to present the other side in a debate format.

This is not how "vaccine safety" or "pharmaceutical safety" is established.

That's done by scientists in scientific forums and papers.

 

[naturalbornhawk]

This is not how "vaccine safety" or "pharmaceutical safety" is established.

That's done by scientists in scientific forums and papers.

The current system on how vaccine safety is established obviously isn't working. If they lost the ability and the will to counter the myriad of dissenting viewpoints in the open for everyone to see then something's gone wrong. The pro-vac end is losing the battle, and for good reason. The lies are becoming more and more obvious and you're losing support day by day. The truth will prevail in the end.

 

[NoleinATL]

Pretty interesting discussion.

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The video is over 2 hours, since you are apparently unable to edit the video, could you provide the duration of the video you would like to discuss?

 

[Joes Place]

The current system on how vaccine safety is established obviously isn't working.

Sure it is.

Mortality rates for vaccinated people are much lower than for unvaccinated.
Same with serious illness.

We've linked these studies and data for you, repeatedly.

 

[Joes Place]

Pretty interesting discussion.

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Cumulative mortality rates continue to DROP in the US.

ONLY way that can be happening is if the real-time rate is dropping. Which could not occur if "vaccines" were causing them to be higher.

World's Largest Mortality Data Repository - Mortality Watch

We aggregate mortality data from muliple sources to generate daily updated mortality charts. Select from 120 countries and many different chart types.

www.usmortality.com

And, YES, they are NOT back to pre-Covid levels, because they are CUMULATIVE and will remain high until the rates have returned to normal levels for at least a decade or more. That's what "cumulative" data, reflects. Every year moving forward INCLUDES the extremely high rates we experience due to the virus.

In fact - rates have been dropping EVER SINCE the vaccines came out, which is not coincidental here.

 

[GES4]

Hey, almost 300 clicks and nobody contradicting any of the presented information. That's a pretty good sign that you were probably right all along, with trolls showing up telling you no one cares LOL.

In case you couldn't figure it out, Ron Johnson is kind of a non-starter in a science discussion.

 

[GES4]

The current system on how vaccine safety is established obviously isn't working. If they lost the ability and the will to counter the myriad of dissenting viewpoints in the open for everyone to see then something's gone wrong. The pro-vac end is losing the battle, and for good reason. The lies are becoming more and more obvious and you're losing support day by day. The truth will prevail in the end.

Q as F

 

[naturalbornhawk]

Cumulative mortality rates continue to DROP in the US.

ONLY way that can be happening is if the real-time rate is dropping. Which could not occur if "vaccines" were causing them to be higher.

World's Largest Mortality Data Repository - Mortality Watch

We aggregate mortality data from muliple sources to generate daily updated mortality charts. Select from 120 countries and many different chart types.

www.usmortality.com

And, YES, they are NOT back to pre-Covid levels, because they are CUMULATIVE and will remain high until the rates have returned to normal levels for at least a decade or more. That's what "cumulative" data, reflects. Every year moving forward INCLUDES the extremely high rates we experience due to the virus.

In fact - rates have been dropping EVER SINCE the vaccines came out, which is not coincidental here.

These two guys who probably know a little more about it than you do (clipped segment from the OP) would beg to differ with your conclusion.

Ed Dowd & Josh Stirling Testify to a 40% increase in excess mortality: Senator Johnson's Covid-19 Vaccine Roundtable

Former Blackrock Investment Advisor Ed Dowd and Insurance Analyst Josh Stirling discuss the date behind the excess deaths insurance companies are experiencing among their policy holders. "In 2021, in

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[naturalbornhawk]

In case you couldn't figure it out, Ron Johnson is kind of a non-starter in a science discussion.

RJ is a Senator who happened to be in a position to *moderate* the discussion, in a room full of "science discussion starters". Just in case you couldn't figure it out.

 

[naturalbornhawk]

Cumulative mortality rates continue to DROP in the US.

ONLY way that can be happening is if the real-time rate is dropping. Which could not occur if "vaccines" were causing them to be higher.

World's Largest Mortality Data Repository - Mortality Watch

We aggregate mortality data from muliple sources to generate daily updated mortality charts. Select from 120 countries and many different chart types.

www.usmortality.com

And, YES, they are NOT back to pre-Covid levels, because they are CUMULATIVE and will remain high until the rates have returned to normal levels for at least a decade or more. That's what "cumulative" data, reflects. Every year moving forward INCLUDES the extremely high rates we experience due to the virus.

In fact - rates have been dropping EVER SINCE the vaccines came out, which is not coincidental here.

And, btw, not including myocarditis among other major adverse health effects as a user option in the Vsafe database survey after acknowledging that they were a problem prior to launch is absolutely nothing short of scandalous.

Aaron Siri, at the 8:40 mark in the OP link explains it quite well.

 

[bunsen82]

These two guys who probably know a little more about it than you do (clipped segment from the OP) would beg to differ with your conclusion.

Ed Dowd & Josh Stirling Testify to a 40% increase in excess mortality: Senator Johnson's Covid-19 Vaccine Roundtable

Former Blackrock Investment Advisor Ed Dowd and Insurance Analyst Josh Stirling discuss the date behind the excess deaths insurance companies are experiencing among their policy holders. "In 2021, in

rumble.com

They seem to ignore the omicron and delta waves affects on deaths specifically to the unvaccinated population, It presents the majority of the excess deaths, but go ahead and continue to say Dowd someone who has no medical background is someone we should be listening to.

Fact Check-No evidence that people aged 25-44 experienced an 84% increase in excess mortality due to COVID vaccine rollout

Social media users are sharing the false claim that people aged 25 to 44 in the United States experienced an 84% increase in excess mortality due to the COVID-19 vaccine rollout.

www.reuters.com

 

[Joes Place]

These two guys who probably know a little more about it than you do (clipped segment from the OP) would beg to differ with your conclusion.

Ed Dowd & Josh Stirling Testify to a 40% increase in excess mortality: Senator Johnson's Covid-19 Vaccine Roundtable

Former Blackrock Investment Advisor Ed Dowd and Insurance Analyst Josh Stirling discuss the date behind the excess deaths insurance companies are experiencing among their policy holders. "In 2021, in

rumble.com

Yeah...that was due to COVID, not vaccines, in 2021, spud.

 

[Joes Place]

And, btw, not including myocarditis among other major adverse health effects as a user option in the Vsafe database survey after acknowledging that they were a problem prior to launch is absolutely nothing short of scandalous.

Aaron Siri, at the 8:40 mark in the OP link explains it quite well.

Outline "what he explains quite well".

 

[Joes Place]

RJ is a Senator who happened to be in a position to *moderate* the discussion

"moderate" is the correct use of air-quote here.

 

[SL Hawk Fan]

The current system on how vaccine safety is established obviously isn't working. If they lost the ability and the will to counter the myriad of dissenting viewpoints in the open for everyone to see then something's gone wrong. The pro-vac end is losing the battle, and for good reason. The lies are becoming more and more obvious and you're losing support day by day. The truth will prevail in the end.

As a general rule, I find folks unable to appropriately use the term “myriad” in a sentence are just posers and not worthy of serious debate.

 

[Crimea River]

Pretty interesting discussion.

SENATOR RON JOHNSON HOSTS EXPERT FORUM ON COVID VACCINES - The HighWire

U.S. Senator Ron Johnson hears testimony from world-renowned experts in Public Health, Science, Medicine, Law, and Journalism, in a public forum titled, ‘Covid-19 Vaccines: What They Are, How They Work, and Possible Causes of Injuries,’ held in the U.S. Senate’s Hart Building, on Capitol Hill...

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Rasmussen poll shows the COVID vaccines are not safe

It finally happened. Someone other than me surveyed the American people to find out if the vaccine is safe or not. Rasmussen Reports got the same results I did. The vaccine isn't safe.

stevekirsch.substack.com

“...public opinion is NOT medical misinformation.”

 

[Joes Place]

“...public opinion is NOT medical misinformation.”

LMAO!!!!

It certainly CAN be

#America'sFrontlineDoctorsPushingUselessIvermectin

 

[Crimea River]

And, btw, not including myocarditis among other major adverse health effects as a user option in the Vsafe database survey after acknowledging that they were a problem prior to launch is absolutely nothing short of scandalous.

Aaron Siri, at the 8:40 mark in the OP link explains it quite well.

The Australian Bureau of (Lies, Damned Lies and) Statistics

Australia's mortality statistics for 2022 are worse than the ABS is admitting to, so why are they tweaking the data - and where is the investigation?

arkmedic.substack.com

 

[Joes Place]

The Australian Bureau of (Lies, Damned Lies and) Statistics

Australia's mortality statistics for 2022 are worse than the ABS is admitting to, so why are they tweaking the data - and where is the investigation?

arkmedic.substack.com

Tweaking the data?

Uh....governments update preliminary numbers routinely. Early drops are almost always provisional numbers. US mortality website does this, too.

Not seeing a conspiracy on this.

 

[Joes Place]

I'd say Australia's data is pretty consistent with them keeping Covid out of the country until 2022

Australia COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

Australia Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.

www.worldometers.info

Excess deaths are ALL Covid related, or Covid sequelae, which do not count as Covid deaths.

 

[Joes Place]

Keep preachin' the antivax stuff to your MAGA buddies...

It's killing them off much faster than it is the vaccinated Dems.

The analysis by the guy that did this graphic implies Covid killed off 150k more GOP voters than Dem voters.

So, let's keep that "Vaccines are Bad" mantra going!!! 👀