Seriously, How Dumb is Trump?
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Much like every topic known to man, Trump knows more about it than the supposed experts.
So I have to ask, what's up with all of the Noles? You dudes in a club, live together, wear the same shirts or what?
I am afraid he was correct in this assertion. Over 1 million were killed in that war, and we are still fighting over the same issues as before the war ... I think we may have actually lost ground in terms of relative quality of life for blacks.
We almost certainly could have found a better way.
Slavery in Brazil was officially ended by The Golden Law, issued by Princess Imperial Isabel on May 13, 1888. Unlike the United States or Haiti, Brazil's abolition of slavery came without a bloody civil war or a slave rebellion1. The Catholic Church ended its support of slavery by 1887, and not long after the Portuguese Crown began to position itself against it. The legal end of slavery in Brazil did little to change the lives of many Afro-Brazilians.
The only way out would have been the dissolution of the United States. The CSA wouldn't have abandoned slavery for decades. In Brazil, where manumission was a widespread practice, the freed black population vastly outnumbered the slave population by the late 1800's.
Wikipedia lists half a dozen examples of nations/empires that ended slavery without having to kill a million people. It took some time, but after 100 or 150 years each of those places seems more settled in this regard than does the United States.
As a matter of public policy, the Civil War seems like a massive disaster to me; the absolute worst way to resolve the issue of slavery. Whatever the alternative path was, it was better.
How Lincoln has come to be treated as an American hero escapes me.
I see examples everywhere of nations being spun off or divided in two. They seem to be working to varying extents. Has anyone ever game-planned how a U.S.A. and a C.S.A. might have evolved? ... and what solution was eventually worked out for the slavery issue? There must have been a few books written on the topic.
The public policy wasn't initially about slavery, it was about the dissolution of the country. Lincoln was prepared to allow the South to continue to hold slaves to preserve the Union. To avoid the Civil War, either the South would have had to accept that they would lose their stranglehold on Congress as more non-slave states joined the Union or the North would have been required to accept that states could leave the Union on a whim. Neither side was going to accept those terms. Given that, the CW was inevitable.
I've never seen speculation on the total avoidance of the Civil War but Harry Turtledove, among others, has written speculative fiction based on the premise that the South won the CW and extends that alternate history through the 20th century.
How much you want to bet if you asked MAGA after that interview, many would say we have 81 States?
Deep State, too.
He's a moron but his followers are really morons for believing Trump's obvious BS.
