Second place in the last week that I’ve been to that has an 18% service fee included with the bill. Cheap ass mf’ers need to start tipping so this doesn’t have to be done.
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Yeah, no. No cheap chains for me.Quit going to Applebee's Op
No disagreement from me.Actually, what needs to be done is pay wait staff a decent wage so they don't have to rely on tips.
While we're at it, include tax in the posted price everywhere that tax is added. If it says $10.95, that is what you should pay because tax should already be added.
You can add on.I always laugh when they do the 18% thing, because I would have tipped them more, but if they want to decide that 18% is right, I'm ok with it.
Oh, this was like an outback or something 😂?Yeah, no. No cheap chains for me.
Actually, what needs to be done is pay wait staff a decent wage so they don't have to rely on tips.
While we're at it, include tax in the posted price everywhere that tax is added. If it says $10.95, that is what you should pay because tax should already be added.
It was so annoying to me when I got out of the military and the price at the counter wasn't actually the price at the register.
I’m with others, wouldn’t mind them just posting the composite out of pocket cost, with base price, tip, and taxes.Started seeing it more. It’s bullshit. Just raise the menu prices to cover your costs and profits.
Yeah, but I’ve seen an additional service charge added like you get for room service.I’m with others, wouldn’t mind them just posting the composite out of pocket cost, with base price, tip, and taxes.
The ones I’ve seen (Minneapolis) state it’s for “fair wages and benefits” and that it’s not considered a tip for service. So you’re supposed to tip on top of that.I always laugh when they do the 18% thing, because I would have tipped them more, but if they want to decide that 18% is right, I'm ok with it.
Agree.The service charge is usually added on post-tax too.
Call me cheap but I'm tipping on the bill.....not the tax, entertainment fee, covid fee, health insurance fee, etc.
I had a couple nights up at Eve on Adams in Tally before I’d caught onto that. Dumb on me for not looking at the bill very closely but I was wondering why they started being so nice to me up there.Second place in the last week that I’ve been to that has an 18% service fee included with the bill. Cheap ass mf’ers need to start tipping so this doesn’t have to be done.
We did The Huntsman on Friday and that was the first place. Great food.I had a couple nights up at Eve on Adams in Tally before I’d caught onto that. Dumb on me for not looking at the bill very closely but I was wondering why they started being so nice to me up there.
Europe has been doing this for a long, long time.Actually, what needs to be done is pay wait staff a decent wage so they don't have to rely on tips.
While we're at it, include tax in the posted price everywhere that tax is added. If it says $10.95, that is what you should pay because tax should already be added.
Actually, what needs to be done is pay wait staff a decent wage so they don't have to rely on tips.
The one that pisses me off is "3% service fee for all non-cash transactions" in super-fine print on the menu. Just raise the ****ing prices if you're going to raise the prices.
I have no problem tipping well for good service (at least doubling that 18%). I do have a problem being forced to tip any amount. How is it they can force you to pay that?
So people should not be able to control by any degree their compensation?
3% covers their cost from the credit card provider.. I simply won’t use a card if I notice they charge that fee and won’t visit that business again unless I have cash, and I don’t normally carry large wads of cash around, so that business lost some potential future revenue by charging 3% on card transactions.The one that pisses me off is "3% service fee for all non-cash transactions" in super-fine print on the menu. Just raise the ****ing prices if you're going to raise the prices.
Because the large majority of transactions are card. Offer a 3% discount for cash transactions. Its currently ass backwards.No. Why should cash customers subsidize card customers?
Or maybe we could just treat service staff like every other country and pay them a proper wage up front and allow tipping to be solely for exceptional service and not an expected addition to their salary.Second place in the last week that I’ve been to that has an 18% service fee included with the bill. Cheap ass mf’ers need to start tipping so this doesn’t have to be done.
See my post above regarding this. I don’t disagree. Still boils down to people being cheap.Or maybe we could just treat service staff like every other country and pay them a proper wage up front and allow tipping to be solely for exceptional service and not an expected addition to their salary.
Or maybe we could just treat service staff like every other country and pay them a proper wage up front and allow tipping to be solely for exceptional service and not an expected addition to their salary.
So people should not be able to control by any degree their compensation?
Which is why I'll ask for a cash discount on larger items sometimes.3% covers their cost from the credit card provider..
Yet somehow people manage through restaurant meals in Europe without tipping, and restaurants seem to make it ok.I kind of disagree. I'm not opposed to raising the base from like $2/hr or whatever it is, or some kind of either or, where if they don't get enough tips, they revert to minimum wage or $12/hr or whatever. Nobody should have a bad night at work and make $10 or something.
HOWEVER, what you are proposing would be a disaster for both service and service staff. Good wait staff make a ton of money, more than they would ever make on an hourly wage. They frequently are servicing more tables than anyone else, and getting them turned over faster. It's not just about exceptional service...from the customer perspective, they might get equally good service, but not noticeably exceptional, from two servers. But one of those servers had 5 tables in an hour, while the other one only managed two. It's insane that they walk out with the same hourly check. The ability of a good server to walk out with a couple hundred bucks in a night shift is key to both good service and restaurants being able to staff at all.
Reverting from a tip based service would increase prices dramatically by increasing the amount of staff needed, decreasing any incentive for wait staff to hustle, and eliminating great, high value wait staff.
Think about it more like commission. It's pretty absurd to pay a real estate that sells $20M in houses a year the same as an agent that sells $2M. Or to even pay them anywhere close. Wait staff that serve and turn over large volumes of customers absolutely deserve to profit from that.
And yet it happens in countless types of businesses across this country.But one of those servers had 5 tables in an hour, while the other one only managed two. It's insane that they walk out with the same hourly check.
If restaurant patrons are on board with having a $65 steak dinner so the college kid waiter can have a living wage, then by all means do it.Actually, what needs to be done is pay wait staff a decent wage so they don't have to rely on tips.
While we're at it, include tax in the posted price everywhere that tax is added. If it says $10.95, that is what you should pay because tax should already be added.
Yet somehow people manage through restaurant meals in Europe without tipping, and restaurants seem to make it ok.
My daughter works at a local establishment in Iowa City while going to the U of I and makes anywhere from $200 to $300 per shift on a Friday or Saturday. That’s equal to $25.00 per hour or more which I don’t think restaurants are going to pay that. Even on a slow day she still clears $100.00 in tips, around $15 to $16 per hour.If restaurant patrons are on board with having a $65 steak dinner so the college kid waiter can have a living wage, then by all means do it.
I think that’s going to be a huge adjustment but okay.