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Should college wrestling ADD a weight or two?
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well, for starters, five of the eight ncaa aa's last year were super seniors.
Spencer- 6th year
Cronin - 7th year
Glory - 5th year
Cardinale - 6th year
Courtney - 6th year
Well good, then that settles it.
College wrestling should add a weight above 200 lbs because there are lots of great athletes aged 18-22 that weigh over 200 lbs.
Thanks for meeting me in the middle on this, and for doing your part to make this a reality!
GG no re, as the kids would say...........
God told me that NCAA wrestling needs a 220 class.
However, He wants us to establish it of our own Free Will.
There are theological implications here, but I won't digress there.
However, He wants us to establish it of our own Free Will.
There are theological implications here, but I won't digress there.
One of the best Iowa wrestlers was 115 lb, not I'm saying that weight should come back, tho.
I wouldn't have a problem with a placeholder weight. You look at ~103 in HS, which has always been an entry point for the smallest guys, and rarely do you get career 103 Albers.
But I also get some want consistent classes where guys can compete at that weight their whole careers.
Spoken like a true 158-pounder.
.I agree that HS 106-pounders rarely become D1 125s, but in Iowa, a LOT of schools can't field a 106-pounder these days. Or a 220-pounder, for that matter. As far as weights where a guy can wrestle for four years, some guys grow. It doesn't matter what the weight is, there are guys that will stay four years in one class, and others that will move up. maybe multiple times (see Kyle Dake).
I have always thought there should be a weight class somewhere between 215 and 230, but Title IX screwed that up a long time ago. Schools are cutting men's programs even today, using finances and Title IX as an excuse. They are not going to add extra "players" and therefore more scholarships to a non-revenue sport. I think there have been a good number of guys that would have benefitted from that weight class, but as MSU says, it would be hard for many teams to fill that weight class. Football takes a good number of athletes in that weight range out of the equation, and many guys who can play college football (and, in their eyes have a shot at the NFL), will choose football over wrestling. Sad, but factual. As I said before, the career 106 and 113 guys that want to keep wrestling take their game to D3 or NAIA, because they can't compete in D1. Contrary to what is often talked about on here, some people's metabolism at that age just won't let you lift hard and eat well and gain 15-20 pounds of muscle. Some can, some can't.
Sadly, those days are long gone. How I made that weight I have no idea. With today's rules, it never would have been possible...Spoken like a true 158-pounder.
I can relate. I was a 118-126 in college, and the past 15 years have spent more time at 200+ than 170 or less.
Yeah, most of my weight has always been from the hips down(big butt and legs) and essentially impervious to weight cutting. Once I got pretty big into the gym in my upper 20's, the upper body eventually caught up. Now, you would need to start chopping off limb(s) to try to get me back there. Add in what gravity does to you in your upper 40's and there isn't a diet out there, even when followed by literal starvation that wouldn't almost certainly kill me before I ever made it to 158...
Take some from our HS. We have plenty of 106, 113 kids.Spoken like a true 158-pounder.
I agree that HS 106-pounders rarely become D1 125s, but in Iowa, a LOT of schools can't field a 106-pounder these days. Or a 220-pounder, for that matter. As far as weights where a guy can wrestle for four years, some guys grow. It doesn't matter what the weight is, there are guys that will stay four years in one class, and others that will move up. maybe multiple times (see Kyle Dake).
I have always thought there should be a weight class somewhere between 215 and 230, but Title IX screwed that up a long time ago. Schools are cutting men's programs even today, using finances and Title IX as an excuse. They are not going to add extra "players" and therefore more scholarships to a non-revenue sport. I think there have been a good number of guys that would have benefitted from that weight class, but as MSU says, it would be hard for many teams to fill that weight class. Football takes a good number of athletes in that weight range out of the equation, and many guys who can play college football (and, in their eyes have a shot at the NFL), will choose football over wrestling. Sad, but factual. As I said before, the career 106 and 113 guys that want to keep wrestling take their game to D3 or NAIA, because they can't compete in D1. Contrary to what is often talked about on here, some people's metabolism at that age just won't let you lift hard and eat well and gain 15-20 pounds of muscle. Some can, some can't.
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