Should Iowa even get rid of Ferentz if....
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Scott Frost may or may not be a "star" coach as PHX stated (that is questionable IMO) but it is unlikely that the successor to Kirk Ferentz at Iowa will be an assistant college coach with no prior head coaching experience. It could happen, I suppose, but it has rarely occurred at a B10 school in the modern era.
I don't think being an alumni at a school is a big factor for every coach, but it certainly is in Scott Frost's case. That said no reason Iowa shouldn't look at him if there is an opening, but if he turns out it be a great coach he is probably going to be at Nebraska one day. I could possibly see him turning Nebraska down once, but he wouldn't turn them down twice.
No amount of money brings a Saban or Myer to Iowa, ever.
BB is the closest we will ever get and there likely is an amount of money that would bring him here. And it will be allot.
IMO you find out what that number is and pay it because that's the only guy out there that is a sure thing to make you relative and competitive in the new look big ten.
You pay that extra money because you have a very good idea what youre getting.
Anyone else and you're taking a much bigger chance.
Hiring an unknown who ends up flopping will end up costing ALLOT more in the long run.
BB is well worth the return on investment.
Wasn't Frost the coach that basically bear hugged LaGarrette Blount and drug him off the field after he punched the Boise State player a few years ago?
Your sarcasm needs some fine tuning. That one came across a bit too serious.
You should probably let the current players know about this since they're the poor talent. Good luck with that. (Don't roll your eyes at that either..."part of the problem" and what not)
Oh wait you don't think it would make a difference nor that they would care what a single fan thinks....which basically means you've rendered your own point meaningless.
Well done, frydaze. Well done.
Why not hire a young up and comer like Mark Hudspeth from UL-L, Kirby Smart the DC at Alabama or Doc Holliday HC Marshall. Pay them well but don't break the bank unless they do something special.
And then when they do something special pay them a lot more...and then complain every year thereafter?
Paying for success is one thing, doing a contract for ten years is entirely different.
Aww you were being serious. That's too bad. Because Bielema is not worth it.
Yawn indeed....
We don't want Mike Stoops. We do want Bielema. Or an up and comer that brings in some offensive flair to help refill the stands.
Having a more athletic friendly presidential administration won't hurt either. Barring something extraordinary a change is due. We've had two coaches in 36 seasons, both of whom have enjoyed good success at Iowa. Its not a bad job, its just not a great job.
Having a more athletic friendly presidential administration won't hurt either. Barring something extraordinary a change is due. We've had two coaches in 36 seasons, both of whom have enjoyed good success at Iowa. Its not a bad job, its just not a great job.
You're welcome. I wouldn't want people believing Bret Bielema was the answer to the football programs problems. He's not.
You'd be wrong.
Ferentz IS going somewhere if season football ticket sales continue to spiral down.
This will be the #1 determining factor on Ferentz's future than anything is.
If you don't think this is how the game is played, so to speak, you haven't been paying attention.
Did Bret steal your girlfriend in the past or beat the sh_* out of you in the past?
Mike Stoops will not be an option whenever the Iowa job opens. He was a Head Coach at Arizona and was fired after 5 or so years there. On top of this, he demonstrated uncontrolled behavior on the sidelines that was not becoming to him or his program or the University. I doubt he'll be a Head Coach again at a major university. I think Mike Stoops is much more suited to be a Coordinator as he is now at Oklahoma.
Obviously Bielema, Bob Stoops, and Mark Stoops are the top former Iowa players out there now as head coaches. Bielema and Bob Stoops I don't see landing here...Mark Stoops a definite maybe if Iowa were interested and he proves he can get things going at Kentucky (history tells us not an easy job).
To go back to the original OP, the future of the Iowa football program does not evolve completely around just the Bielema or Bob Stoops. There are many other top flight coaches out there who could win at Iowa.
If the program continues to be lackluster, as its been now for the past 5 years, a change must be made sooner than later. No AD has a crystal ball to determine how the next coach will do--though I'd say having a Bielema or Stoops here would be a great bet to expect big success because I clearly believe both coaches are better than Ferentz. An AD must be able when it's time for a change based on success being stuck in quicksand, and apathy setting in from the fan base. Both of those things have been happening here.
You need to go find someone who can energize the fan base and certainly who you believe can win.
Do I have ultra faith in Barta to make a solid hire? I certainly am not convinced. However, if you don't believe he can, then he should not be in the job.
Whoever is hired will have to be a regular name in the business, along with top assistants to get recruits to want to come. That's the only way to get the program back to anywhere near the top tier.
Imo, that's been KFs main problem....he's hired those he's "comfortable" with and not based on their ability or pipeline to recruit. Even some of you here thought Phil was Norms brother....wonder how may recruits even knows who he is?
Imo, that's been KFs main problem....he's hired those he's "comfortable" with and not based on their ability or pipeline to recruit. Even some of you here thought Phil was Norms brother....wonder how may recruits even knows who he is?
Do you think recruits ever know who a positional coach is before they meet them...really?
When KF moves on, the next hire should not be solely seeking a head coach, it should be sort of a coaching package, imo. And we need to signifanctly increase our competitiveness for top assistants. I'm thinking something like a $7M total package, like $3-4M for HC, $800-1.2M for OC and DC, and then the rest. I think coordinators have always been extremely important, but I think even more so now with assistants constantly being poached, promoted, etc.
You really think a recruit wouldn't know (or matter to him) who Narduzzi is?? Or a Scott Frost??...
Then you turn around and say we need to offer a bigger pkg. to get top assistants?? Make up your mind, which is it.....they don't really matter or they do.
You really think a recruit wouldn't know (or matter to him) who Narduzzi is?? Or a Scott Frost??...
Yes, yes, absolutely. A high school kid in Miami does not know who those guys are before they show up to recruit them.
This doesn't mean what you think it means. You are taking two uncorrelated things and attempting a correlation, and failing at it. Top assistants are vital, the Narduzzis, Smart, Cameron, Mattison, Stoops, etc. are worth the pay, pay that Iowa simply has been (seemingly) unwilling to compete with.
No way Barta makes the next hire. Ferentz is the name of the pony on which he rides into the sunset.
Great, you've just named the two assistant coaches you know. If name assistants are such a huge deal, name some Alabama assistants of the last 10 years, or even Ohio State's for the past three years. Good luck.
