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SL's knees

Yes, but I would expect a limited Spencer all season. Cashman will be getting a good amount of work this year.
 
Wish it was like last year when it didnt count so Ayala could get in there against some of these big ten wrestlers. Like have Spencer wrestle Minny and Ayala wrestle Schroeder on Sunday. Would love to see how he stacks up against some good 125s.
 
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Yes, but I would expect a limited Spencer all season. Cashman will be getting a good amount of work this year.
He might have a similar match count to what he had in the weird ass COVID year. Guess we'll find out in due time. If he's healthy (for his standard anyway! Ha!), let er buck! I would guess he'll have the least amount of matches of Iowa's starters anyway, barring someone else being dinged up for a stretch or whatever.
 
Yea makes sense to wrestle him as needed only if his knees need the rest. Besides F*** state, who else will the HAWKS need him against to win the dual?
 
Why can’t
Wish it was like last year when it didnt count so Ayala could get in there against some of these big ten wrestlers. Like have Spencer wrestle Minny and Ayala wrestle Schroeder on Sunday. Would love to see how he stacks up against some good 125s.
why can’t it be like last year. So much better if the let red shirts and other kids wrestler before match. Entertaining and good for the sport!
 
Why can’t

why can’t it be like last year. So much better if the let red shirts and other kids wrestler before match. Entertaining and good for the sport!
Don’t let this go to your head because I really don’t like you, but I actually agree with you in a way. There should be 2nd string matches, teams have guys that are not on RS they should match them up and let them wrestling before the starting lineup. They obviously will not be on reg tv time so stream them.
 
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Don’t let this go to your head because I really don’t like you, but I actually agree with you in a way. There should be 2nd string matches, teams have guys that are not on RS they should match them up and let them wrestling before the starting lineup. They obviously will not be on reg tv time so stream them.
It’s my understanding this will continue for the 21-22 season. Coaches really liked it and have requested it’s continuation.
 
If he wrestles early in the season then there’s really no need for him to not have a normal schedule. His acls are already torn. Not like he has to worry about coming back to fast after surgery or something.
 
If he wrestles early in the season then there’s really no need for him to not have a normal schedule. His acls are already torn. Not like he has to worry about coming back to fast after surgery or something.
Not a real Doctor, or even a fake message board wannabe Doctor, but I am staying at a Holiday Inn this weekend. So I MAY draw some medical knowledge/inspiration and report back about torn ACL's at a future date............

At this point in time I have no clue if he's good to go or hobbled slightly or just doesn't care and giving it the old College try for the good of the Team. I look forward to seeing him on the mat again regardless.
 
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I haven’t had time to listen yet but it looks like this interview might give some info on the current state of his recovery.

 
He didn’t with his rt leg in 2019. Rehabbed it and was ready to swing for the fences in 2019/2020. Started the season on time and won U.S. Nationals in Dec 2019. IIRC, it was going to be the same plan with the left one.
I'm assuming The Kid and his "Team" know what they are doing. That's good enough for me. Go Hawks!
 
SL has stated he had no ACLs, which I think would be referring to have had completely ruptured ACLs which are not really treatable. I can’t help to think that after further research on his injuries maybe it’s possible they found partial tears and are using advanced treatment techniques like bone marrow injections for recovery As opposed to surgery.

With the resources in medical field and medical alumni at Iowa (ie; Alex Meyer) there are most assuredly a plethora of super intelligent surgeons working along with his family and the staff.

The other factor is Spencer, he is not a typical athlete (which you could say for many of the top wrestlers) his abilities are obviously world class. One other thing is I’m not sure SL feels pain, most wrestlers have a high threshold I believe SL is off the charts. All of this leads to options that may not be typical of an athlete with an ACL tear or two!
 
SL has stated he had no ACLs, which I think would be referring to have had completely ruptured ACLs which are not really treatable. I can’t help to think that after further research on his injuries maybe it’s possible they found partial tears . . .

No, they were fully ruptured.
 
I really wish other sports went to a model for redshirting like football. In football you are allowed to redshirt if you play in 4 games or less. I think it wrestling this would look like 4 duals / in season tournaments. But the wrestler obviously wouldn't be able to redshirt if he wrestled in a qualifying tournament (b10s, b12s, acc).
 
I really wish other sports went to a model for redshirting like football. In football you are allowed to redshirt if you play in 4 games or less. I think it wrestling this would look like 4 duals / in season tournaments. But the wrestler obviously wouldn't be able to redshirt if he wrestled in a qualifying tournament (b10s, b12s, acc).

I get it, but they can go to open tournaments, so it's kinda similar.
 
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Right? I thought that was the reason he didn’t make an Olympic run this year.
He said he really wanted to wrestle in Olympics and originally put off surgery so he could attempt to make Olympics but everything in his knee was strained after NCAAs or something like that so it just wasn't possible by the time trials came along
 
Do you that for certain? If so his plans must be to repair both of them directly after this season to get ready for 2024.
Some people don't need repair to do what they want to do.

Thurman Thomas of the Buffalo Bills was an NFL running back and played without getting it fixed.

Spencer stated in the interview his other knee that tore two ACLs was doing fine.
 
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Do you that for certain? If so his plans must be to repair both of them directly after this season to get ready for 2024.
It’s pretty clear he doesn’t need them. Why would he repair them after the season?
 
I haven’t had time to listen yet but it looks like this interview might give some info on the current state of his recovery.


My biggest takeaways:

1) he did not repair either knee after the season

2) he would have wrestled at world team trials if Gilman had not gotten bronze and automatically gotten the spot

3) he thinks ppl are weird who ask for autographs
 
He didn’t with his rt leg in 2019. Rehabbed it and was ready to swing for the fences in 2019/2020. Started the season on time and won U.S. Nationals in Dec 2019. IIRC, it was going to be the same plan with the left one.
That is what Spencer said as well. To be honest, the way he looked in 2020 with his right ACL already gone nobody would have guessed that he was wrestling with only one ACL that year so why would anyone think he wouldn't do the same thing this year. He has had 6 months of PT I'm sure to strengthen the knee around the ACL on the left one now and he as already shown that was plenty good enough for the right one. Just because it seems crazy doesn't mean it is for Spencer. I'm guessing he has gotten lots of advice from people a lot smarter than all of us and this is the best route for him. I have a sneaking suspicion we are going to be very happy with the end result of his decision this year!
 
I just listened to the Pod cast. As far as signing items, I heard him just speaking to the fact that he thinks differently. He never asked for an autograph, because he planned on being better. It's a mindset. I found it interesting. I don't think he said he thought people were weird for asking. It's just not him.
 
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Isnt Ayala going to be available before January without losing red shirt. Would love to see him against some good Div I competition to give Lee breaks. He looks better than Cashman.
 
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