I don't understand the reasoning. Either McCollum or DeVries is the better coach for Iowa. I want whichever one that is. Not whichever one makes me least jealous of having success at another program.
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I'd take Collins over Devries all day, erry'day.
Bingo.
Rick Pitino is even 'dirtier', but both guys have their teams ready to win their conferences and make some major noise in the Big Dance.
Everything is above board. Being 'dirty' no longer even raises any eyebrows or blips any radars, nor should it with the "Wild West" territory that is collegiate sports now what with pretty much no restrictions on NIL and an always open transfer portal.
I have multiple reasons. Just didn’t wanna list them all out at the time.
From my observation:
-McC’s team has finished tough games better than DeVries. They’ve lost a few but more often than not, they’ve been able to close the door more consistently than DeVries’
-I appreciate that McC’s offense is very disciplined with few turnovers, especially live ball
-I’m impressed with McC’s roster construction, having been able to seamlessly fill the gaps with transfers that his D2 guys couldn’t.
-Great usage of timeouts in games
-Great “special” plays. The one at the end of the Bradley game was excellent - just missed the layup
-Far more affordable
I'm prepared for Iowa to miss the boat on both these coaches.... Our administration is too slow to change. Not forward thinking at all.
Embrace their mediocrity until they prove otherwise.
Embrace their mediocrity until they prove otherwise.
Agreed.
Dirty back then is the new "legalized" norm now. All NIL has done is redact all the BS some schools had been getting away with for decades. $$$$$$ recruits. That is the only competitive edge anymore. Pretty sad really.
Niko Medved wasn't great, but he wasn't terrible either.
The other two have obviously been pretty good.
So, maybe a bit of a stretch, but not loss-of-credibility bad.
Nah. I think McCollum is more realistic (and probably the better basketball coach) but we'll likely get one of them.
Well, at UIowa it does. They have learned their lessons in the past. The school really took steps to clean up the AD back in the 50’s and have made a substantial effort to have the school’s administration maintain a lot of control of AD policy.
Medved is a good coach he just inherited a bad situation and left before he could get it going. He's doing pretty well at CSU. It was a good hire. Drake has been very good at hiring coaches in all their major sports recently it's just hard to hang onto people there
I misread. Thought you were referencing Iowa. My mistake and I’m man enough to admit it.
This article totally seems like a feeler. I'd think the odds DeVries gets a contract extension in the next month are pretty high.
As for McCollum it is probably up to the donors/insiders to decide if they want him more than someone like Gatens.
Articles about plummeting attendance are not the type of thing you read if a 65 year old head coach is about to return and get an extension, so I think that's just not really in the equation anymore.
If so, could Iowa’s AD at least “force” Fran to hire a new defensive minded assistant coach?
This is sadly true and is one of the reasons my interest in college sports has waned.
lmao Gatens? They're not going to push out Fran just to hire a first time head coach from his staff (and who has only been on staff for the decline phase) just because he happened to play here please be serious.
There were stories about DeVries getting offered an extension like a month ago and he still hasn't signed it. If he wants to weigh his options elsewhere (not just Iowa, he will be a candidate for a lot of jobs) it doesn't make sense to do it now. WVU has no leverage there.
Now is not Gaten’s time. If Iowa is gonna “force out” a well regarded coach, they better be ready to bring in one who has “proven” himself somewhere else…has anyone mentioned Medved from CSU? (Another Drake connection)
I've seen him on some long lists but I don't see much reason to hire him over DeVries or McCollum. I don't think the search really goes much beyond McCollum unless he unexpectedly gets the Indiana job or something.
Gatens would probably be a candidate to stay on staff (especially if they hire DeVries) or to replace McCollum at Drake but he's absolutely not going to be head coach at Iowa without a successful head coaching run somewhere else first
It would be refreshing to hear Bobby Knight speak about tge current state of college sports….if anything Bobby Knight could be refreshing.
You know, it wouldn't be the first time Gatens help force a head coach out.
There is absolutely no world that you would hire Gatens over McCollum. One guy has had won 14 straight conference championships and the other guy has NEVER been a head coach.
If I'm making the hire then yeah it's McCollum 10/10 times.
I've seen enough coaching searches to know how often they get screwed up, and Iowa wouldn't be the only one calling him. That's why I said it's up to the donors/insiders since they're the ones who will write the check.
I have no idea - how is his recruiting? Can he take it to a needed National level? Tia
Recruiting is more than a coach, its a program with facilities, NIL, exposure, etc.
It won't matter how good his recruiting is if the players are going to wait outside of carver in the snow for practice if they can drive their free car and sit in a hot tub somewhere else.
Gotta start with coaching results, if it works it works and if it doesn't whatever
I all ready have one foot out the door with men's bball. If Fran comes back I'm out the door but I won't close it.
I was there during the Miller and Olson days so sad to see where it is now. I put the problem at Bartas doorstep.
A defensive minded assistant coach has to answer to the head coach and the head coach should know how to teach defense. I dont think Fran was ignorant to the concept of defense but valued scoring more than the opponent. He also lacked the athleticism needed to compete on the defensive end.
I disagree with the athleticism point. Wisconsin has typically been just as challenged over the years as we have. Difference is they emphasize it, teach it, and recruit toughness.
I'd agree if Gary was still running the show. From the outside it looks like Beth has a plan and is implementing it.
I have been around too long maybe--Gold Hawk since 86 and season fball and bball since then as well. Was at the Game Thomas played in where everyone was shaking the car keys at him--
I have spoke with Bruce about the job right around the time Alford was having some issues and he said the U of I did his main man TD wrong and he would have issues working there again.
{Plus what do you know that Bruce has done that is "dirty". The Thomas affair he was trying to do the right thing and turn in Ill--he won at Mil /Wisc and not sure how you cheat there. Got fired at Tenn. for having a recruit at his house for dinner during nonn contact period and got fired for lying about it.
ANything else you are aware of?
