If you don't think it is malicious to mock people by saying they are engaged in bizarre cultish behavior for posting football messages on a football board, you are a bigger prick than I imagined.
So.. Should Coop have stayed?
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NFL receivers can make the catch even when covered. That's the biggest difference. The precision of the passes by the QB and the ability of the receivers to make the catch even when covered.
One last thing, I know you have said you have experienced racism over the years, which I absolutely believe. However, have you ever considered that some of your negative encounters are simply a result of your personality?
Which is why I said some, and also said you surely have experienced racism. But maybe, just maybe, it is how you communicate with people which engenders some of your bad experiences. I certainly rub some people the wrong way and my wife would agree I can be too direct with people. But, that has nothing to do with what I look like.
Everyone rubs everyone the wrong way. Not everyone is everyone's friend. No biggie. I am man enough to handle it but I am also not an idiot and can understand when someone calls me the N word or something equally derogatory, when I don't know them, or having had no interaction, that they are sad, pathetic losers. As far as you are concerned, I am aware of your derision of Indian food. Perhaps you thought that should affect me. It doesn't. Would I be your friend? Who knows? But people who don't have an open mind, tend to have flaws within them inherently and are mostly hypocrites calling others titles that would fit them as well.
I don't like Indian food therefore I am a closed-minded prick. Got it, even though my wife's best friend of 40+ years and my friend of 30 years is Indian.
I expect it may be Buffalo right away or Washington with their two early picks in the 2nd round, all 3 precede the Packers next pick.
Buffalo needs a receiver... I wouldn't be surprised if another team in need of a DB jumps up towards the top of the second round to take Cooper or Kool Aid.
You are bad with logic and don't deserve any details explaining to you why your post is trash.
Go back to your coloring book.
He's not super muscular and he got hurt, so there are no combine numbers for him, and then he is also playing a position that all the current starters in NFL are black hasn't had a caucasian starter for entire season in years. My guess is he ends up at safety. I had some doubts about him going 15th in 1st round and one would guess most of the gm's don't want to be the guy that drafted a white CB in 1st round that turned out to be a bust.
All that said, he can still be a good pick for a team in 2nd round and I hope he has a great career. Didn't make much sense for him to come back to play at Iowa without a $1million NIL package and Iowa doesn't have that kind of NIL.
Yeah, I get you but by top running back I am talking a beast like Derrick Henry who can just carry a team, but the shelf life is iffy
Out of all the DB's in D1 football - so, over 500 starters - and only 3 were picked in Rd 1. And CDJ will probably be the 4th. It just wasn't a position of critical need for many teams.
It cost him some cash to miss Rd 1, but now he'll be a FA a year sooner.
I think he's going to be fine.
It cost him some cash to miss Rd 1, but now he'll be a FA a year sooner.
I think he's going to be fine.
One other thing about Coop is that we all love this guy (one of my favorite Hawks all time) but our memories are filled mostly with what he has done with the ball in his hands. He is an elite punt returner and his shiftiness when returning interceptions are all exciting. But taking off our Hawkeye glasses and looking at it from a NFL GM's perspective and assuming that don't really value the punt returner side of things (not for a first round pick anyway), then his CB skills are very similar to Riley Moss. His measureables all stack up pretty much the same too. Riley is a very good CB and I love Riley too, but, he was a 3rd round pick and really didn't see the field last year for Denver, mainly because he is not quick enough to press these receivers. Objectively, I think it is fair to view Coop the same way. Personally I think Coop is going to be an awesome safety in the end, like pro bowl level safety and maybe pro bowl punt returner too.
I know they need a receiver, but, I bet Coop is too good to pass up for Buffalo.
I know they need a receiver, but, I bet Coop is too good to pass up for Buffalo.
You disagree but nobody else does. You're on an Iowa FB message board. Discussing football.
Could you guys get a room or something? maybe exchange personal emails so you can verbally abuse each other & the rest of us don't have to read this sh!t. Thank you
Have you seen his b-ball highlights? Dude is fairly jacked, especially for a DB. This is why he'll probably be an all pro safety. And he hasn't even reached his athletic peak yet... wow
You're not wrong and I hate it when threads get hijacked like this. I had simply had enough of his crap from other threads and it came to a boil here. Moving on!Could you guys get a room or something? maybe exchange personal emails so you can verbally abuse each other & the rest of us don't have to read this sh!t. Thank you
I think NFL evaluators failed to recognize two things, or at least recognize them to the degree the separates Coop from other athletic CBs:
1) his absolute stone cold run support capability - I’d bet my left nut there is no other CB in the draft that seeks out contact more than Coop. It’s possibly what almost hurt him in the fact he does it as well and as much as any safety - and thus the continual discussion about him playing S in the NFL. He’s a CB that hits like a safety! NOT a safety playing CB.
2) his incredible sixth sense for the ball AND sixth sense WITH the ball. Other CBs and returner are likely as athletic. But there’s an intangible with Coop - he is just so fluid to and with the ball.
1) his absolute stone cold run support capability - I’d bet my left nut there is no other CB in the draft that seeks out contact more than Coop. It’s possibly what almost hurt him in the fact he does it as well and as much as any safety - and thus the continual discussion about him playing S in the NFL. He’s a CB that hits like a safety! NOT a safety playing CB.
2) his incredible sixth sense for the ball AND sixth sense WITH the ball. Other CBs and returner are likely as athletic. But there’s an intangible with Coop - he is just so fluid to and with the ball.
Super. Another noob posting what could be the stupidest post on here all year. So yesterday they were showing CDJ covering Marvin Harrison Jr. and their other big wideout, and he did just fine. I'm sure those guys aren't NFL WR's though huh?
He got beat for TD against OSU
PSU 2023 completed passes against him and defense at will
I’m not saying he’s bad. He’s a great player. But he plays in a scheme that lets corners be safeties in order to not get beat over the top. They give cushion, and their eyes are in the backfield.
That’s not what the nfl looks for in a corner. If Cooper was playing man to man on the best WR of every team consistently, then i think he gets picked in 1st round.
The guys picked ahead of him play man coverage.
Phil has done a masterful job of basically placing anyone on his defense in the NFL. If you’re a senior starter for Phil, you’ll find yourself on a roster.
But no one under Phil has made it as a top cornerback in the league. Desmond is the closest and he’s nickel / slot
PSU 2023 completed passes against him and defense at will
I’m not saying he’s bad. He’s a great player. But he plays in a scheme that lets corners be safeties in order to not get beat over the top. They give cushion, and their eyes are in the backfield.
That’s not what the nfl looks for in a corner. If Cooper was playing man to man on the best WR of every team consistently, then i think he gets picked in 1st round.
The guys picked ahead of him play man coverage.
Phil has done a masterful job of basically placing anyone on his defense in the NFL. If you’re a senior starter for Phil, you’ll find yourself on a roster.
But no one under Phil has made it as a top cornerback in the league. Desmond is the closest and he’s nickel / slot
Lolol.. Like your condescending attitude, doesn't make you a prick either I suppose....
I see a bunch of QBs drafted in the first round that are going be out of league long before Cooper.
Damn. He was supposed to go to Green Bay at 25. What happened. GB picks again at 41. Maybe it was strategic on their part
Cooper’s going to be fine.
But if he knew he wasn’t going to be picked in the first 40 picks he’s 100% coming back to Iowa City this year.
But if he knew he wasn’t going to be picked in the first 40 picks he’s 100% coming back to Iowa City this year.
He needs to fire his agent. How could any expert not see the plethora of QBs and WR going in the first. Somebody didn't do their homework.
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