You all do realize these talking heads are given a script to follow by ESPN, right?
Neither #12 ranked Arizona St nor #9 ranked Boise St should have received a 1st Round CFP Bye. Should 3 Loss, #11 ranked Alabama have gotten in?
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They would've lost too. This is what happens with 12 teams . There's a few legitimate contenders every year, maybe one or two outside the four teams. But after that they don't really have much of a chance
By expanding the 12 teams we've done away with that what about team number five or six kind of argument. But realistically out of the teams that are left Isee Ohio State, Oregon, Texas, Penn State , Notre Dame and Georgia as having fairly legitimate chances.
Teams that most would pick after the seeds.
I agree w/ you when it comes to legitmate contenders. There's a good chance that the top 4 ranked teams end up in the Final 4.
However, tOSU (Ryan Day, etc) & Notre Dame obviously are really happy that the expanded playoff occurred this year.
I would not be surprised if both win & advance. tOSU wants revenge over Oregon; Georgia is down their starting QB.I still don't like the seeding process (where the 12th ranked team got the #4 seed; the 9th ranked team got the #3 seed). But that's jmo....
Final College Football Playoff Rankings
| RK | Team | Seed | CONF | REC | TREND |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 |  Oregon * | 1 | Big Ten | 13-0 | - |
| 2 |  Georgia * | 2 | SEC | 11-2 | 3 |
| 3 |  Texas | 5 | SEC | 11-2 | 1 |
| 4 |  Penn State | 6 | Big Ten | 11-2 | 1 |
| 5 |  Notre Dame | 7 | FBS Indep. | 11-1 | 1 |
| 6 |  Ohio State | 8 | Big Ten | 10-2 | - |
| 7 |  Tennessee | 9 | SEC | 10-2 | - |
| 8 |  Indiana | 10 | Big Ten | 11-1 | 1 |
| 9 |  Boise State * | 3 | Mountain West | 12-1 | 1 |
| 10 |  SMU | 11 | ACC | 11-2 | 2 |
| 11 |  Alabama | SEC | 9-3 | - | |
| 12 |  Arizona State * | 4 | Big 12 | 11-2 | 3 |
| 13 |  Miami | ACC | 10-2 | 1 | |
| 14 |  Ole Miss | SEC | 9-3 | 1 | |
| 15 |  South Carolina | SEC | 9-3 | 1 | |
| 16 |  Clemson | 12 | ACC | 10-3 | 1 |
If not for tv they could cut back to 8 teams. We'll probably never see a team ranked hight than that win a NT.
Tell me why this clown is on TV with a mic attached to his head daily.
I like the number at 12 to cut off the whining, I remember Penn State being undefeated and untied four times in my life from 1968 to 1994. They didn't have the chance to play the eventual ground champion.
Expanding it past 8 to 12 allows that very hot team with two losses to have a shot at it, and remember now we have these conference championship games which have changed things from the 30 -40 years ago. 12 probably isn't needed but it'll control the whining to some, never mind , there will still be whining.
Do not allow opinions to change the seeding in the playoffs. Boise state and AsU earned the seeds and rankings are just opinions. The second that is allowed ESPN controls the script and they will do everything in their power to ensure the right teams win. I remember when the sec bias started happening. The language used and stories they highlighted put down everything but the sec.
Do not give them that power. It would be an amazing thing especially in this new world if the teams outside the approved narrative became just as successful as the two mega conferences. The funny thing is for Iowa fans is the entire narrative being crafted against boise and asu is the exact narrative that will be used against Iowa. 11-1 Iowa doesn't deserve a spot over 10-3 Auburn. Iowa won the conference championship but really should have the bye over Texas.
These assholes at ESPN are ruining college sports and convincing fans it is what we want.
Do not give them that power. It would be an amazing thing especially in this new world if the teams outside the approved narrative became just as successful as the two mega conferences. The funny thing is for Iowa fans is the entire narrative being crafted against boise and asu is the exact narrative that will be used against Iowa. 11-1 Iowa doesn't deserve a spot over 10-3 Auburn. Iowa won the conference championship but really should have the bye over Texas.
These assholes at ESPN are ruining college sports and convincing fans it is what we want.
If Iowa is 11-1 and ranked top five and they win the conference championship they would get a bye. If they're ranked high enough after losing a conference championship game they're getting a home game or going on the road .
PSU was fourth but lost to Oregon so they got a home game. And after that we had how much SEC whining?
Just win and it takes care of itself .
You think so but that isn't true at all. Iowa is not the team ESPN wants to have a bye and the propaganda against a team like ours is immense. Look at the bullshit they have been spinning to control the future playoff decisions. Indiana didn't belong. 11-1 Indiana didn't belong.
ESPN does not want win and it takes care of itself. ESPN wants control over the script.
Hes terrible as an announcer unless you're an Ohio Stae fan.
Even on NFL broadcasts he talks way too much.
Herbstreit, when knocking Indiana and the B1G after IU's loss to Notre Dame, definitely was speaking on behalf of his employer (ESPN) and the SEC, the conference ESPN has a TV contract with.
He couldn't even hide his SEC bias.
I still don't think the #12 ranked team in the country should get a top 4 seed.
their body of work said they were the #12 team in the country. they only got in the CPF because they won their conference championship game over Iowa State. does that deserve a first round bye? IMO, it does not.
I'm not sure what the best solution is tho - should TX/PSU get byes despite losing their conference title games? should OSU when they didn't even play for the b10 title?
I guess I'm hoping this is just kind of a weird year where 1) first year of expanded playoffs + conference realignments and 2) there wasn't 4 teams that really separated themselves...SOMEBODY was going to get a bye that didn't really deserve one.
And their body of work is evaluated by the people with a vested interest in the sec.
They got the bye because the pkayoff indicated they should based on their body of work. Winning their conference.
You are asking great questions. I am guessing the Power 2 conference commissioners (SEC & B1G) are going to want to discuss CFP seeding in the offseason meetings
You state SOMEBODY was going to get a bye that didn't really deserve one; I would argue 2 of the 4 teams (Boise St & Arizona St) didn't deserve one.
Think of the advantage the 1st round bye gives those 4 teams. Boise St wasn't good enough to take advantage. Arizona St is taking advantage late here.
But that's my opinion.
I don't really disagree with what you have in bold - my counter is that NOBODY deserved those #3 and #4 seeds this year.
The current head of the committee — and the face of public revulsion over perceived playoff slights — is Michigan Athletic Director Warde Manuel.
There are 13 members of the College Football Playoff Selection Committee, listed below with their area of expertise in the field of college football and the expiration of the term.
- Mike Riley
Former Oregon State and Nebraska head coach, February 2027 - Randall McDaniel
Former Arizona State player, February 2027 - Gary Pinkel
Former Toledo and Missouri head coach, February 2027 - Mack Rhoades
Baylor Athletic Director, February 2027 - Hunter Yurachek
Arkansas Athletic Director, February 2027 - Carla Williams
Virginia Athletic Director, February 2027 - Chris Ault
Nevada Athletic Director, February 2026 - Chet Gladchuk
Navy Athletic Director, February 2025 - Jim Grobe
Former coach, February 2025 - Warde Manuel
Michigan Athletic Director, February 2025 - David Sayler,
Miami (OH) Athletic Director, February 2026 - Will Shields
Former Nebraska player, February 2025 - Kelly Whiteside
Former college football reporter for multiple outlets, February 2025
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after seeing what you saw with Boise St & Arizona St, should tweaks be made to who gets the 4 first round byes?
Personally I think you run it back for next year and see whether this was just a fluky year or not.
I just get back to who should have gotten those #3 and #4 seeds instead of Boise/ASU. ASU btw imo has proven themselves worthy of that seed.
The team in overtime vs Texas? How are they terrible.
Actually, what you should know is that simply stating my opinion is not trolling.
