I don't know, man. I got help in Iowa when I was at my rock bottom and wanting to kill myself. It can be done. But like I said, it's not an easy road.
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Have you considered shrooming in a clinical setting so you can "work" on the issue? For many people it's trauma, but they're having success with alcoholics too. And psychedelics are not addictive.
Psilocybin-assisted therapy for reducing alcohol intake in patients with alcohol use disorder: protocol for a randomised, double-blinded, placebo-controlled 12-week clinical trial (The QUANTUM Trip Trial) - PMC
Alcohol use disorder is a difficult-to-treat psychiatric disorder and a major burden on public health. Existing treatment efficacy is moderate, and relapse rates are high. Preliminary findings suggest that psilocybin, a psychedelic compound, can ...
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I completely get it man. My wife dried to end her life 6 years ago and still struggles with it today. She’s been sober now for 40 days and I think that has really helped, the fact she could do it while I was drinking as much as I was around her is amazing. If you ever get up around Decorah hit me up and we can catch up. It’s been a long time since my days at the Creek, but I do have fond memories of hanging out with you guys. Good luck with everything.
All of my family is in Independence. Mental health is not a priority In most states. Less so in Iowa.
Not that I think I’m going to have any kind of episode. But if it happens there. I know exactly where I’m going.
Yeah those treatments are not legal about 49 states.Have you considered shrooming in a clinical setting so you can "work" on the issue? For many people it's trauma, but they're having success with alcoholics too. And psychedelics are not addictive.
Psilocybin-assisted therapy for reducing alcohol intake in patients with alcohol use disorder: protocol for a randomised, double-blinded, placebo-controlled 12-week clinical trial (The QUANTUM Trip Trial) - PMC
Alcohol use disorder is a difficult-to-treat psychiatric disorder and a major burden on public health. Existing treatment efficacy is moderate, and relapse rates are high. Preliminary findings suggest that psilocybin, a psychedelic compound, can ...
I'd be curious if you go through any physical withdrawal. Seems like you've been having quite a bit.
Hey man, I just finished dry jan!
Who cares about legality? You need help ASAP and both the shrooms and the clinical protocols for using them in a therapeutic way are easily accessible. You can do it on your own.
As an alcoholic. We go through withdrawal every day. Dry heaving. The shakes.
Telling ourselves every morning today is the last day then ****ing that up at night.
No although I haven’t completely cut out alcohol. But two days of being cognizant of significantly limiting my intake has been a positive for me. I will admit that I do have the shakes until I start drinking. Being my size and drinking as much as I do that is no surprise.
Edit to add, shit I lied. I dry heave/gag every morning when I brush my teeth. Never at night, only in the morning.
Kudos to you for having the courage to admit that there was a problem, that's the first major step. I was a pretty heavy binge drinker in my college days, but I moved away from it mostly because I got tired of feeling like trash for days afterward. I still drink on occasion, but always moderately.
I enjoy my flower and partake nearly every day, but again, in very modest amounts and always at the end of my day. I can easily give it up for weeks at a time with no mental or physical impact, and it's never impacted my personal life and my responsibilities to my family, friends and work life. I consume so little that the financial impact on my household is next to nothing. I've been blessed to avoid most addictive behavior, except for my love of tobacco and I'm doubtful I'll ever completely cut that out of my life. I've reduced my use (used to be a 25-30 cigs a day smoker) and now I'm in the 5-7 cigs/day so some progress but still worse than zero. My dad eventually quit them altogether only to fall into an addiction to gambling and he died nearly penniless as a result.
Keep at it @jellyfish10. You're a good dude with a good heart and I suspect that a lot of people here and in your personal life are rooting for you to succeed and get that level of control back. My best to you!
I enjoy my flower and partake nearly every day, but again, in very modest amounts and always at the end of my day. I can easily give it up for weeks at a time with no mental or physical impact, and it's never impacted my personal life and my responsibilities to my family, friends and work life. I consume so little that the financial impact on my household is next to nothing. I've been blessed to avoid most addictive behavior, except for my love of tobacco and I'm doubtful I'll ever completely cut that out of my life. I've reduced my use (used to be a 25-30 cigs a day smoker) and now I'm in the 5-7 cigs/day so some progress but still worse than zero. My dad eventually quit them altogether only to fall into an addiction to gambling and he died nearly penniless as a result.
Keep at it @jellyfish10. You're a good dude with a good heart and I suspect that a lot of people here and in your personal life are rooting for you to succeed and get that level of control back. My best to you!
The dry heaving for me comes when I start to sober out next morning and smoke a cig.
I appreciate that very much OO. Work is going to be a big part of the struggle. I work with a couple of full blown alcoholics and we like to travel in packs, make excuses for one another, etc. As I mentioned, everything is a trigger. Nice weather will be another big challenge, as well as my failures in relationships. It’s a long list.
I’m glad I’ve never had those symptoms, maybe I’m not as far gone as I thought.
I was going to ask you about that, I’m pretty sure I know one of them. That will definitely make it harder but maybe seeing you sober up will spark a change in them too.
Not for the one you are referring to. Usually after 2pm he’s loaded. Idk how much you have to drink at his size to be that drunk, but it ain’t a couple of Busch lights, that I know for goddamn sure.
Friend, please get rid of the guns in your home. You can give them to your local police station easily.
Here's the #1 book for mental health as recommended by doctors in America. It's the Bible of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy.
"Feeling Good" by Dr. David Burns. He also has a YouTube channel and website where he's putting out tons of free content.
Godspeed brother.
You really don’t want that shit. I should’ve stopped a long time ago.
I’m sure he appreciates that Brian, but for me, the last thing I have ever wanted to do when I’m at my worst is to read a book. It’s usually to get fvcked up to forget how fvcked up I feel. Not trying to be rude, just honest.
Good luck man!
Can’t say I’ve ever had a major problem with alcohol (more of a college/single person thing) but I found it easier just to stop altogether aside from a few bigger get-togethers with buddies. Now I don’t even have interest in drinking at those get-togethers.
Can’t say I’ve ever had a major problem with alcohol (more of a college/single person thing) but I found it easier just to stop altogether aside from a few bigger get-togethers with buddies. Now I don’t even have interest in drinking at those get-togethers.
They’ve been taken away by the state. Not because I’m a threat to others.
I assure you I’ve read many books on how to improve my mental health….and I love reading. Have read a lot.
I’ve never read anything that has resonated with me. It’s not any words that are going to help me.
That’s the thing. Events give me a reason to get more piled up. I’ve been to a shit ton of concerts, and the stories always end with “I was so fvcked up.” I have never needed an event. Drinking just became part of my everyday routine whether something “special” was going on or not. Appreciate the sentiment.
That’s sad. How does he manage to run a business like that?
That’s all it is. A decision to be made.
I made that decision a few years ago. Then things happened. And I can’t make it again for some reason.
Oh I get it, I was never a casual drinker and was always blackout drunk.
Thankfully I got over it. I’m not going to pretend that I did something that will work for you. I just hope you find something that does.
I’m happy you‘ve shared what you have. Who knows, maybe this can be a benefit all of us in the struggle.
Quite simply it will all have to come from within. I have no one to blame but myself. I do appreciate it.
You need to induce neuroplasticity and there's a growing consensus that the best way to do that is through psychedelics.
No shame in AA if you find it hard to get things under control on your own. It's free and sometimes a very entertaining show. I'd imagine there are some lively meetings in Cedarloo. I'm not active and didn't work the steps or anything, but I would still credit AA with helping me quit. It was a place I could go for free during the hours I'd normally be drinking and talk to people who wouldn't be shocked by my drinking habit.
Sorry about your brother. Keep hope alive. Life is always changing and we can't predict the future.
Some meetings more than others. But the real point is it's less intimidating than one might expect before going.
I gotta be honest. HORT is probably one of the last places anyone should be if they're struggling with mental health.
The cess pool is real bruv.
Good luck Jelly. You always seem like a good dude.
The cess pool is real bruv.
Good luck Jelly. You always seem like a good dude.
