Solar + BESS

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

You are the one posting misleading bullshit It's pretty clear that's pretty much what you do.

Hey Captain Dickhead.

What do these rates say dumbass?

Enterprise, Kansas Electric Utility	Enterprise, Kansas	BUNDLED	0.66	321.16	1,174.09	7,707.83
Harbor Springs, Michigan Electric Utility	Harbor Springs, Michigan	BUNDLED	1.14	119.1	999.39	11,433.72
Winnsboro, South Carolina Electric Utility	Winnsboro, South Carolina	BUNDLED	1.27	688.1	3,914.65	49,543.25
Bonneville Power Administration	Portland, Oregon	BUNDLED	1.33	192,551.69	521,891.89	6,931,861
Bloomer, Wisconsin Utilities	Bloomer , Wisconsin	BUNDLED	1.77	940.52	38,345.63	677,174.57
Dayton, Iowa Electric Utility	Dayton, Iowa	BUNDLED	1.82	1,584.33	1,045.88	19,012.01	16MWh
Colorado River Commission	Las Vegas, Nevada	BUNDLED	1.99	88,250	35,200	706,000
Thayer, Missouri Electric Utility Company	Thayer, Missouri	BUNDLED	1.99	9,102.41	5,484.95

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Nationwide comparison of electricity providers across states, counties and cities.

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[Joes Place]

Try 500 miles on max load. Long form unedited footage also available.

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Not close on costs.

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Electricity costs are not "$0.035/kWHr"

More like $0.10-0.15, so 3x to 4x that.
Still, $100-120 for a tank is cheaper than diesel right now.

 

[Joes Place]

If Tesla generates electricity to operate the Tesla Semis internally and their utility rate is 3.5 cents

That's not their rate.

No reason to exaggerate something that is still a savings over diesel.

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

You are comparing the lowest wholesale rates for electric and comparing them to the highest retail rate at the pump. That's just being dishonest. If you want to compare average wholesale to average wholesale you would have a valid point. Or if you were to compare average retail to average retail, you would also have a valid point. Tesla would come out on top either way. But what you posted was just the type of horseshit that the anti EV people will run with.
Don't be dishonest.

1 Euro cent / kWh
at times, get paid to charge

will accept apology for your rudeness and ignorance any time now….anyyyy time…

 

[Gimmered]

1 Euro cent / kWh
at times, get paid to charge

will accept apology for your rudeness and ignorance any time now….anyyyy time…

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How much will it cost to get your Tesla semi to Germany at the end of every day?

 

[Joes Place]

1 Euro cent / kWh
at times, get paid to charge

That's not available to Americans, and irrelevant to your (false) claims of 3.5c/kWhr here.

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

50%



“Prices more than halved in the final three months of 2023 compared to the same period in 2022, as power supplied by large-scale renewables and rooftop solar soared.“

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

How much will it cost to get your Tesla semi to Germany at the end of every day?

Anywhere from getting paid to charge to having to pay.

 

[Gimmered]

Anywhere from getting paid to charge to having to pay.

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

Is 382 million a lot?

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

I believe you are underestimating the impact that rapid deployment of renewable energy coupled with a deficiency in energy storage is going to have on energy markets in the near term. I don’t judge your ignorance. Unless you follow the developments in the sector I wouldnt expect you to know.

Here’s an example in Australia.

 

[Gimmered]

I believe you are underestimating the impact that rapid deployment of renewable energy coupled with a deficiency in energy storage is going to have on energy markets in the near term. I don’t judge your ignorance. Unless you follow the developments in the sector I wouldnt expect you to know.

Here’s an example in Australia.

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Even if I believe 100% that you are correct in this, and I hope you are, that doesn't change the fact that that your post here was completely dishonest

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

Even if I believe 100% that you are correct in this, and I hope you are, that doesn't change the fact that that your post here was completely dishonest

Haha. No. I’d call you an idiot but it would be an insult to idiots.

 

[Slappy Pappy]

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26% of China's car sales were evs last years. Might hit 40% this year.

 

[Gimmered]

Haha. No. I’d call you an idiot but it would be an insult to idiots.

You know I've been really respectful towards your line of stupid here, but you seem to want to wear it like a badge of honor.

So, **** off and go away.

 

[SolarHawk]

It's Austin Utilities

Austin, Texas?

 

[the24fan]

Austin, Texas?

Mn

 

[SolarHawk]

Mn

Not familiar with them, 1:1 net metering forces the utilities to buy back power you send to the grid at the same rate they charge you. Which is the way it should be as you have no control over which utility you use. Call your utility and ask what the buy back rate is.

 

[the24fan]

Not familiar with them, 1:1 net metering forces the utilities to buy back power you send to the grid at the same rate they charge you. Which is the way it should be as you have no control over which utility you use. Call your utility and ask what the buy back rate is.

you recommend any particular company that does the solar w no upfront cost?

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

Well this explains what happened to @RicoSuave102954

 

[SolarHawk]

you recommend any particular company that does the solar w no upfront cost?

Any legitimate solar company has no up front financing. I recommend reaching out to Sunnova directly if they’re an option. They are the best to work with imo. If not, google local solar companies and check their BBB profile. That’s the most reliable source for reviews on a company imo.

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

33% from Solar, prices plummet.

Who benefits? Customers.
Who loses here? Fossil fuel suppliers.

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

GREAT news!!!!!!!!

In a 'monumental shift', EU coal and gas collapse as wind and solar ascend

Europe's coal electricity generation tanked by 26% and gas by 15% in 2023, according to a new report from energy think tank Ember.

electrek.co

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Our reports show the health benefits of a zero-emission future.

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

Enabling renewable energy with battery energy storage systems

The market for battery energy storage systems is growing rapidly. Here are the key questions for those who want to lead the way.

www.mckinsey.com

The market for battery energy storage systems is growing rapidly. Here are the key questions for those who want to lead the way.

Snippets:

“In Europe, the incentive stems from an energy crisis. In the United States, it comes courtesy of the Inflation Reduction Act, a 2022 law that allocates $370 billion to clean-energy investments.”
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“All of this has created a significant opportunity. More than $5 billion was invested in BESS in 2022, according to our analysis—almost a threefold increase from the previous year. We expect the global BESS market to reach between $120 billion and $150 billion by 2030, more than double its size today.”


Thank you Joe Biden & Democrats. @Chishawk1425

 

[RicoSuave102954]

Enabling renewable energy with battery energy storage systems

The market for battery energy storage systems is growing rapidly. Here are the key questions for those who want to lead the way.

www.mckinsey.com

The market for battery energy storage systems is growing rapidly. Here are the key questions for those who want to lead the way.

Snippets:

“In Europe, the incentive stems from an energy crisis. In the United States, it comes courtesy of the Inflation Reduction Act, a 2022 law that allocates $370 billion to clean-energy investments.”
…

“All of this has created a significant opportunity. More than $5 billion was invested in BESS in 2022, according to our analysis—almost a threefold increase from the previous year. We expect the global BESS market to reach between $120 billion and $150 billion by 2030, more than double its size today.”


Thank you Joe Biden & Democrats. @Chishawk1425

hysterically funny!!!

They will never be able to power a steel manufacturing mill with windmills or solar power. Same thing with a naval shipyard.

Clean coal, nuclear, and natural gas will power our industries forever.

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

hysterically funny!!!

They will never be able to power a steel manufacturing mill with windmills or solar power. Same thing with a naval shipyard.

Clean coal, nuclear, and natural gas will power our industries forever.

Different use cases can have different sources. There will likely be a medium-long term need for some of these energy sources in heavy industry.

Let’s get all of the non-heavy industry energy needs switched over to energy sources that don’t pollute our lungs and our water and our food. Fair?

 

[RicoSuave102954]

Different use cases can have different sources. There will likely be a medium-long term need for some of these energy sources in heavy industry.

Let’s get all of the non-heavy industry energy needs that don’t pollute our lungs and our water and our food switched over to energy sources that don’t kill us. Fair?

Is China, India, North Korea, and Russia onboard with your idea?

Asking for a friend.

 

[ICHawk-I]

I’ll be building next fall with hvac/plumbing/electric going in November time frame. I plan to do solar panels with battery, but haven’t looked hard into options or set up yet. Going to go as electric as possible.

We wanted to get the battery when we put up our solar panels. Our installer advised against it. Said that the upfront cost was a lot more and when it comes time to replace batteries, it will be another big expense. Instead he offered us a whole-house generator, and could tie it in as a "backup system" so the cost could be looped into the rebates.

We have no gas appliances (never had it run to the house even) and geothermal and we went from paying 250-400/month (depending on outside air temps) to paying less than $100 last year. It has been awesome and well worth it.

One thing most people don't realize, or at least it was news to me, is that when grid power goes down, those with solar also lose power (because you sell your generated electricity back to the utility and you can't be putting current on a line if some poor repairman is out there trying to fix it). I am not sure if that would be the case for those with batteries, but our generator fills that gap just fine, one time we didn't even know the grid power was out and we were at home watching TV when the rest of the town was powerless.

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

Is China … onboard with your idea?

Asking for a friend.

Yes, very clearly. Yes. They are much further along the S curve adoption than we are. Sadly. They are kicking our butts!

 

[RicoSuave102954]

Yes, very clearly. Yes. They are much further along the S curve adoption than we are. Sadly. They are kicking our butts!

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You should join the FPU (Fruit Pickers Union) as you cherry picked your response to only address EV vehicles and left Russia, North Korea, and India completely out of the response.

Let me educate you on the subject, China, Russia, North Korea and India all burn through coal for energy production. Their factories spew pollution that destroys people's lungs and their factories spew poison into their water and our food.

We could all start walking tomorrow and leave our fossil fuel vehicles at home for the rest of our lives and it won't offset by a tiny fraction what those other nations are doing to the environment.

Your obsession with EV's has the earmarks of throwing deck chairs off the Titanic in an effort to keep the ship from capsizing.

 

[Joes Place]

Enabling renewable energy with battery energy storage systems

The market for battery energy storage systems is growing rapidly. Here are the key questions for those who want to lead the way.

www.mckinsey.com

The market for battery energy storage systems is growing rapidly. Here are the key questions for those who want to lead the way.

Snippets:

“In Europe, the incentive stems from an energy crisis. In the United States, it comes courtesy of the Inflation Reduction Act, a 2022 law that allocates $370 billion to clean-energy investments.”
…

“All of this has created a significant opportunity. More than $5 billion was invested in BESS in 2022, according to our analysis—almost a threefold increase from the previous year. We expect the global BESS market to reach between $120 billion and $150 billion by 2030, more than double its size today.”


Thank you Joe Biden & Democrats. @Chishawk1425

The new car batteries that could power the electric vehicle revolution

Researchers are experimenting with different designs that could lower costs, extend vehicle ranges and offer other improvements.

www.nature.com

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

Home Battery Storage product release from Tesla. @SolarHawk thoughts?



A review:

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]