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Soldier Salute Session #4

it's definitely a little tiring that this shit always happens with this program. and trolling aside, i somewhat agree with gobblin that this match shouldn't have happened if there were negative emotions involved. but why should there be negative emotions? clearly there's something there though, given the mom thing.

what is spencer's dynamic with the team right now? it's not the first time someone has claimed he refuses to wrestle them in the room. what possible reason would he have to not wrestle ayala?
 
Gobblin during the 149 final. How could the coaches allow this????

sad cry GIF
They shoulda knowed!
 
spencer always had an edge to him on the mat guys. not the first time he's stood over someone after rag-dolling them while wearing the iowa singlet.

tom put it best: "he's a really nice kid, but he's a mean little bastard on the mat" or something like that
Wish we had a few more mean little - or big - bastards on the mat!!
 
it's definitely a little tiring that this shit always happens with this program. and trolling aside, i somewhat agree with gobblin that this match shouldn't have happened if there were negative emotions involved. but why should there be negative emotions? clearly there's something there though, given the mom thing.

what is spencer's dynamic with the team right now? it's not the first time someone has claimed he refuses to wrestle them in the room. what possible reason would he have to not wrestle ayala?
He’s been injured for longer than DL has been in the team, maybe?
 
it's definitely a little tiring that this shit always happens with this program. and trolling aside, i somewhat agree with gobblin that this match shouldn't have happened if there were negative emotions involved. but why should there be negative emotions? clearly there's something there though, given the mom thing.

what is spencer's dynamic with the team right now? it's not the first time someone has claimed he refuses to wrestle them in the room. what possible reason would he have to not wrestle ayala?
Throw in the risk of potential injuries just for shits and giggles too…. An absolute recipe for a nightmare just played out before our eyes. We just got lucky it’s only more division between the team the their best wrestler not not a blown knee or torn tendon.
 
it's definitely a little tiring that this shit always happens with this program. and trolling aside, i somewhat agree with gobblin that this match shouldn't have happened if there were negative emotions involved. but why should there be negative emotions? clearly there's something there though, given the mom thing.

what is spencer's dynamic with the team right now? it's not the first time someone has claimed he refuses to wrestle them in the room. what possible reason would he have to not wrestle ayala?
He was not wrestling in the open practice and I don't think he did any live wrestling in practice last year. Would not be shocked if even now he does not do a lot of live wrestling.
 
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Just proof positive for me that far too many are underestimating Spencer this year. Sure one can criticize his 3rd period gas tank, or rightly so assume he is not the same 100% guy with semi healthy ACLs, but he is going to cut through #2 on down like a hot knife through butter. The weight class is very weak, and 90% Spencer is still Spencer, namely next level by a wide margin. Even if he were to pop another ACL during the year, he can probably throw on a brace and still bonus his way throughout. Even if Glory doesn't bump to 133, he gets majored or worse IMO. Vito might have made a third period interesting, but noone I can see can keep it to a decision, especially if Spencer is 'ornery'.

PS - I didn't need this event to feel this way.
 
Hard to pick sides when none of us - that I’m aware of - know the facts. I’m with Gobblin in that Tom should have made a call. That said since the call was clearly not made I think the apprentice should have been the one to back down and allow the 3-timer his due…or piss off the 3-timer and hope it doesn’t come back to bite you, which it did. We’ve got to remember that even the great humble SL is still human and is still a young man who can lose his shit if pushed too far.

If both guys are healthy and want to wrestle, why the heck would Tom say no? “Oh I’m sorry guys I’m worried one of you might get too emotional and the other guy’s mom might run to Facebook. Plus, what’s Gobblin going to think of all this???”

it's definitely a little tiring that this shit always happens with this program.

Serious question…what are you referring to here?
 
Throw in the risk of potential injuries just for shits and giggles too…. An absolute recipe for a nightmare just played out before our eyes. We just got lucky it’s only more division between the team the their best wrestler not not a blown knee or torn tendon.
more division? is there already a rift in the team?
 
If both guys are healthy and want to wrestle, why the heck would Tom say no? “Oh I’m sorry guys I’m worried one of you might get too emotional and the other guy’s mom might run to Facebook. Plus, what’s Gobblin going to think of all this???”



Serious question…what are you referring to here?
well half of our most notable alumni hate the program for starters.
 
it's definitely a little tiring that this shit always happens with this program. and trolling aside, i somewhat agree with gobblin that this match shouldn't have happened if there were negative emotions involved. but why should there be negative emotions? clearly there's something there though, given the mom thing.

what is spencer's dynamic with the team right now? it's not the first time someone has claimed he refuses to wrestle them in the room. what possible reason would he have to not wrestle ayala?
Spencer is his own dynamic. Bottom line Ayala wanted to wrestle Spencer. He got what he wanted. Big brother!! Spencer sacrificed a nuff for the program. Is what it is.
 
Hard to pick sides when none of us - that I’m aware of - know the facts. I’m with Gobblin in that Tom should have made a call. That said since the call was clearly not made I think the apprentice should have been the one to back down and allow the 3-timer his due…or piss off the 3-timer and hope it doesn’t come back to bite you, which it did. We’ve got to remember that even the great humble SL is still human and is still a young man who can lose his shit if pushed too far.
Make what call? Can anyone respectfully give a good reason that they shouldn't have wrestled if both are cleared?
And Drakes mom needs to stfu. She should have learned from Swaffords brother how dumb it is to over react on a public forum. She just became micro penis' best friend tonight. How embarrassing that anyone is whining about that match.
 
it's definitely a little tiring that this shit always happens with this program. and trolling aside, i somewhat agree with gobblin that this match shouldn't have happened if there were negative emotions involved. but why should there be negative emotions? clearly there's something there though, given the mom thing.

what is spencer's dynamic with the team right now? it's not the first time someone has claimed he refuses to wrestle them in the room. what possible reason would he have to not wrestle ayala?
I think a bigger deal is being made out of it than it is. Ayala is an AA quality wrestler. There’s always going to be friction between good teammates competing for the same spot and heat of the moment stuff will always occur.

And it’s probably inconsistent with Brand’s coaching to tell a healthy wrestler he can’t go.
 
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