Some perspective on McFadden of Virginia Tech
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I think a freshman placing 3rd is pretty good and a sophomore going 8th then 4th is pretty good but what do I know.
I'll agree that Suriano isn't an offensive dynamo, but I'm not quite ready to label him as "extremely limited" on his feet, either. Need to see how he progresses through his freshman year (he is expected to be in the PSU lineup next season).
Throw in James Green and Frank Molinaro as well. Someone else already mentioned Burroughs.
Burroughs, Bruce Baumgartner, and Chris Campbell are the Mount Rushmore of NJ wrestling period.
[What in the hell is this tread about?]
From what I can decipher, it's about a 165 guy, who is an AA as a fr, but is younger that an incoming 125 guy who is actually older. Oh and a few people tore Fine Material a new one as he didn't seem to get the thread either.
Well Fine thought the 165 guy was actually a lesser 125 recruit but didn't know the 165 guy had already AA'd for Vag Tech. Meanwhile, Iowa recruiting sucks because New Jersey is swampy.
Nothing, its a show about nothing!
My point wasn't NJ doesn't produce top studs throughout history. The guys who seem to really thirve are just the NJ recruits who are a tad less hyped like a James Green. I don't ever remember Burroughs, Green or Caldwell even getting close to the buzz that Ashnault, Camplanotto or now Surianno get.
The NJ 4x undefeated thing hasn't panned as well on paper. Weren't the Greys who went to Cornell NJ overhyped guys?
In Ny/ NJ the Burroughs and Dakes just quietly did there things while Camplanatto was getting front page on Flo.
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I didn't say he wouldn't progress I said as of now. I'll rephrase the "extremely limited" to not very good at scoring on his feet.
Well considering McKenna is a freshman aa and Ashnault is a two time aa as a true soph, I would say anyone that thinks they haven't lived up to the hype is out of their mind.
I guess the Banach Brothers were chopped liver........... since nobody seems to remember where they were from...................
When did they hold him back? I kindergarten or 8th grade? A spring birthday as in April? Its a real slippery slope to hold kids back who are born in April. I never question a parent doing what they think is right for their kid, but I do find all this holding back for wrestling and other sports ridiculous. It is a huge advantage, especially in high school to have that extra year of testosterone. My son is 13 and will turn 14 in early August. He starts high school in August. There are kids who will be 15 and a half in August in his grade. One kid, held back in 8th grade for wrestling is almost 2 years older than him. Where does it stop?
No, I was perfectly clear. Suriano is the #1 lightweight in the country but OP knows (he's an expert, he lives in a nearby town) that he's only #4, and one of those better 3 lightweights is a 165 guy at VT, because he's younger than Suriano.
See? Clear as can be.
Well let me just say this. Suriano is a very good recruit. I will say this too, sometimes very good recruits do very good in college (D Taylor). Sometimes they do pretty good (M McIntosh). Sometimes they do ok (Guillibon). Sometimes they don't pan out at all (A Alton). This I am certain of.
Thanks Don. Always appreciate your keen insight. You should have a blog with all these gems.
Just look how you turned out AZ, the pride of HR. Just shows there is hope for all of us. Cortez, now at PSU will be eligible for Social Security before he graduate from College.I started school at 6...At the time, they evaluated five year olds to see if they had the maturity level to be in kindergarten. Guess I was a functional retard or something because they told us to come back in a year. Not much has changed, really
Haha...that and being able to get into OSU are my big achievements in life...however, ITT Tech was closer to home and a bit more of a challenge.
I think the biggest challenge you ever had was finding a women who would put up with you and that same women needed to be blind too.
They were AMAZING chopped liver!!
But actually the Banachs were just BORN in NJ. They wrestled high school in New York.
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They had one hell of a fortuitous route, that's for certain. Quite the story these guys had of their upbringing. I didn't know (or forgot) that they had collectively written a book called Uncommon Bonds (I'll have to get on that...). My recollection was of them being from New Jersey, which I guess they are.They were AMAZING chopped liver!!
But actually the Banachs were just BORN in NJ. They wrestled high school in New York.
So I'm 1/2 right then?
They had one hell of a fortuitous route, that's for certain. Quite the story these guys had of their upbringing. I didn't know (or forgot) that they had collectively written a book called Uncommon Bonds (I'll have to get on that...). My recollection was of them being from New Jersey, which I guess they are.
So I'm 1/2 right then?
1/2 right is always better than all wrong.
So hell yeah! But you are right, they had a crazy childhood. I have always enjoyed watching Iowa wrestling, no matter where the meets are have been held. I Grew up in the Iowa city area and as a young kid begged my dad to take me to as many meets as he could. For me personally though, as comfortable as Hawkeye Carver is, it has never had even close to the atmosphere as the old Fieldhouse did.
With that said, for those of you that remember, the pep band in the field house used to sit up in the corner on the second level of seating. And of course we were loaded at every weight, so each match was always huge. But it always seemed to get extra special loud as the meet wore on, or when we got closer to the Banachs. Especially their senior year when Ed moves up to 190, the Banach boys wrestled back to back. So when Ed got done kicking someone's ass at 190, the band would start playing the song "skip, skip, skip to my Lou".
But when they got the Lou part, the band wouldn't play that note and the whole crowd would yell "Lou!!!!!" And after three or four of those choruses, with the crowd in a damn frenzy, Lou, would come out of the warm up room, looking like freaking Lou Ferrigno in a singlet and the crowd would absolutely blow up!!
Holy sh$&t that was cool. Especially as 10 year old.
. What an amazing time to be a wrestling fan, especially an Iowa wrestling fanThey had one hell of a fortuitous route, that's for certain. Quite the story these guys had of their upbringing. I didn't know (or forgot) that they had collectively written a book called Uncommon Bonds (I'll have to get on that...). My recollection was of them being from New Jersey, which I guess they are.
So I'm 1/2 right then?
You are wrong. Ed and Lou Banach are from Port Jervis, New York.
Yes, and the Brands were born in an Omaha hospital and Ben Askren was born in Iowa. So what?
