Maybe Fran needs to do this in private, in the locker room. But this is unreal these days, calling out players, coaches and everyone else in public.
Something Fran would never do... Mick Cronin throwin the team under the bus
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It’s a business now. Everyone is getting paid.
Yes, some a lot more than others but that doesn’t make this a good idea. Will be interesting to see how they respond.
It's everyone else's fault. Well, Mick, whose fault is that? Yours. You're the head coach. BTW What he's saying about individual players and even the entire team is best said in private. Not many of us appreciate being called out in public. Most of us respond much better if criticism is given in private. After doing so, if they don't respond, sit their asses on the bench. The bench can be a powerful teacher. But then let them know you see their effort when they do show it. He might be the nicest guy in the world, but what I see of him while he's coaching makes it appear he's a horse's ass who can never be pleased.
I'm guessing he's mentioned this stuff to his players just a couple times before this.
Most likely, I think. And if they don’t respond, you have to figure out how to get their attention. For Mick’s sake, I hope it works.
Just so I’m clear, are you saying this is a recent thing, or something that should no longer happen? I remember Lute Olson calling out William Mayfield and Clay Hargrave after a game.
Got yelled at and thrown under the bus as a teen to early twenties at various jobs. In front of customers and bosses. I don’t agree with the management style. But that’s the way it is now. It’s a job. IMO
It's all true but you keep that in house. I didn't care for those responses at all.
Agreed. I hope Cronin has tried some other things and this is a last resort for him.
Couldn't care less about UCLA or what their coach says or how their players feel about it.
Meaningless twitter drama.
Meaningless twitter drama.
And it could be. We have no idea what has gone on in house but those comments were pretty direct and targeted. A locker room would be a much better place for that speech.
Again, I very much believe he's spot on with everything he said. Kids hear all the time how great they are by AAU programs to keep their parents paying to be on the team/ keep the best players so they win and build a brand, their high school coaches to keep them out/ not transfer, their college coaches to keep them at their school.
Many kids really, really struggle to hear the truth and when you say it, they blame you and leave. They also have no idea what it means to work for what you want to be.
I know some college coaches in various sports who have retired because of what you’re saying. It’s partly NIL, but it’s more about no longer being able to get their players to work hard.
You basically can't have any punishments for anything anymore. If it's not on your practice plan, athletes can go and complain that you were being too harsh. It's nuts...
What every generation has said about the next.
I didn’t know Bruce Willis got into coaching…
At what point does a man look around him and realize that, being the head coach, everyone around him is a direct reflection of his failure or success to build an effective organization?
I think he embarrassed himself.
I think he embarrassed himself.
I believe it should happen in private. Keep it in house.
At least he didn’t blame the band for not being there.
What makes you think he doesn't? Fran yells at a player - this Board goes he's abusive. Fran yells at a ref - Fran is unhinged. I guarantee that if Fran did exactly what Cronin did this Board would explode. Nobody has any idea of what he says to his players in private and that is exactly where it should stay. I love how so many think dressing your team down to the public is the best way to go when many of you can't handle a single bit of criticism to a post.
Did you read my post? Maybe Fran needs to do this in private, in the locker room. For the record, I agree with you.
One poster from the UCLA board, sounds familiar huh?
| Cronin is likely done at UCLA | Posted: Wed, Jan 08 9:11 pm |
| ShowtimeUCLA Joined: 11/19/17 Posts: 1,969 | In response to Enough is enough (lakershen) UCLA needs to start looking to the future. Cronin will almost certainly enter next season on the hot seat. Outside of that final four run, he’s basically had the same level of success as Steve Alford. Cronin is a better coach than Alford but unfortunately hasn’t done much. His offensive system is nonexistent, doesn’t recruit at a high level, fails to make good evaluations, doesn’t develop players, and has an abrasive personality. Go Bruins UCLA ‘10 UCLA Law ‘15 Lifelong Bruin Fan |
"They're delusional about who they are..."
easily the best line of the presser.
easily the best line of the presser.
Fair enough - I just read it as you felt he needs to do it, rather than this is where may in fact already be doing it. Stuff like this rarely ends well for the coach or the team unless there is a tremendous amount of "street cred" that the coach has built up with all involved.
While I get your point, have we crossed into "that's too far" territory? Having coaches go to the compliance office when you have a hard practice?
he does, do you ever see him bench someone for anything defense or hustle related to 5% the extent most coaches do?
and would you generally disagree with that? Because it is true way more often than not.
I don't try to be a mind reader or make assumptions on why anyone does what they do.
In the UCLA game tonight, Cronin was ejected. UCLA lost to Maryland 79-61.
Getting used to BIG officials lol.
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