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Start building your bunkers people. “Serious national threat”

They get here a lot faster leaving less time to react. Which, of course, makes a fvck-up accidental exchange more likely.
But very risky for those peasants to put one of their dozen actual functional nukes in orbit.
Doesn’t this break some treaty from the 60’s about militarization of space .
Russia is basically run by a criminal gang now, with Putin the mob boss. They've torn up, pulled put of, or ignored every treaty they've ever signed over the past few years. They fall squarely between Iran and NK in trustworthiness.
 
But very risky for those peasants to put one of their dozen actual functional nukes in orbit.

Russia is basically run by a criminal gang now, with Putin the mob boss. They've torn up, pulled put of, or ignored every treaty they've ever signed over the past few years. They fall squarely between Iran and NK in trustworthiness.
I'm sure we have some sort of response to this scenario which we're not supposed to have under said treaty. I mean, we have to plan for the eventuality of a mineshaft gap...

 
Semi serious question: what actually happens when a nuclear weapon is detonated in a near vaccuum?

Google "EMP" and "The Chaos Factor".

Low earth orbit nuke sends energy pulses that destroy most electronic circuits in orbiting satellites and on the ground. Your iPhone will be a brick.
 
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But very risky for those peasants to put one of their dozen actual functional nukes in orbit.

Russia is basically run by a criminal gang now, with Putin the mob boss. They've torn up, pulled put of, or ignored every treaty they've ever signed over the past few years. They fall squarely between Iran and NK in trustworthiness.
Well according to Ron Johnson Putin always wins. So we might as well give him everything now.
 
But very risky for those peasants to put one of their dozen actual functional nukes in orbit.

Russia is basically run by a criminal gang now, with Putin the mob boss. They've torn up, pulled put of, or ignored every treaty they've ever signed over the past few years. They fall squarely between Iran and NK in trustworthiness.

Let's forget the treaties that Trump left... including a nuclear one
 
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It is starting to feel like someone watched Moonraker recently and came up with a not-so unique plan to scare America.

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I read an article this morning that Russia successfully hit Ukraine with a hypersonic Zircon missile recently, and this was confirmed by the remnants found at the explosion site. These can travel at Mach-8 and are essentially impossible to shoot down. Russia has been boasting about such capabilities for years and were met with skepticism. This is the first tangible proof of their capabilities.
 
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Why do we care about space nukes?

What does that do that can’t already be done?

The real problem is that we have turned our military into more and more of a highly complex weave of cheap drones mixed with geosynchronous satellites for positioning and intel. The Army just cancelled the latest planned small strike helicopter designed to replace some roles of Kiowas and Apaches this week in favor of just more small drones relying on geosat data. And the current Air Force plan of replacing F-22s with a slow F-35 hub that uses an attached swarm of drones and a couple of behind the lines new F-15EX acting as missile trucks hopefully out of the way of more nimble Russian and Chinese sixth gen fighters means that if you know out our geosat capability our Air Force assets are essentially useless. Just some completely useless drones that cant even Fly without the geo sats let alone fight, some 60 year old designed planes that have no stealth and are sitting ducks and a small amount of F-35s which are not designed for equal air to air furballs with equivalent or better dogfighters. The F-35 is designed to hit the opponent when THEY are blind and don’t know what hits them, when the tables are turned because of overreliance on geo sats they are screwed.

So it’s really that our defensive strategy relies on the Air Force establishing dominance in space through exact knowledge of the enemy location. Once that’s taken away from us, our uncrewed and remote crewed are useless and our smart bombs become dumb bombs. We could use assets like the super slow E-2 and E-3s but the Russians and Chinese have developed long range hypersonic missiles to blow those super slow and lumbering jets out of the air From beyond where our current fighters can kill the launching fighters. So that leaves the need for a replacement for the SR-71 that can go ultrafast, ultrahigh and have the coordinating capabilities of an E-2 or E-3. Although we might have been testing the Auroras/SR-72s we will need a lot more. Or even better replacements. Otherwise our entire plan to deal with Russia and China is useless and our entire military is as outdated as Polish horse lancers charging German tanks in WW2.
 
Semi serious question: what actually happens when a nuclear weapon is detonated in a near vaccuum?
I went down a few nuclear rabbit holes when I got super interested after watching Oppenheimer a few months ago. I stumbled on the Starfish Prime test in 1962. From what I gather, not so much of a blast without air to expand rapidly, but huge EMP that messed with satellites and electronics on earth, plus radiation raining down into the atmosphere.



 
I went down a few nuclear rabbit holes when I got super interested after watching Oppenheimer a few months ago. I stumbled on the Starfish Prime test in 1962. From what I gather, not so much of a blast without air to expand rapidly, but huge EMP that messed with satellites and electronics on earth, plus radiation raining down into the atmosphere.



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I went down a few nuclear rabbit holes when I got super interested after watching Oppenheimer a few months ago. I stumbled on the Starfish Prime test in 1962. From what I gather, not so much of a blast without air to expand rapidly, but huge EMP that messed with satellites and electronics on earth, plus radiation raining down into the atmosphere.




FUNFACT: Nuclear EMP would also "take out" most electronic voting machines. So, w/o paper ballot backups, there would be no votes to tally....
 
The real problem is that we have turned our military into more and more of a highly complex weave of cheap drones mixed with geosynchronous satellites for positioning and intel. The Army just cancelled the latest planned small strike helicopter designed to replace some roles of Kiowas and Apaches this week in favor of just more small drones relying on geosat data. And the current Air Force plan of replacing F-22s with a slow F-35 hub that uses an attached swarm of drones and a couple of behind the lines new F-15EX acting as missile trucks hopefully out of the way of more nimble Russian and Chinese sixth gen fighters means that if you know out our geosat capability our Air Force assets are essentially useless. Just some completely useless drones that cant even Fly without the geo sats let alone fight, some 60 year old designed planes that have no stealth and are sitting ducks and a small amount of F-35s which are not designed for equal air to air furballs with equivalent or better dogfighters. The F-35 is designed to hit the opponent when THEY are blind and don’t know what hits them, when the tables are turned because of overreliance on geo sats they are screwed.

So it’s really that our defensive strategy relies on the Air Force establishing dominance in space through exact knowledge of the enemy location. Once that’s taken away from us, our uncrewed and remote crewed are useless and our smart bombs become dumb bombs. We could use assets like the super slow E-2 and E-3s but the Russians and Chinese have developed long range hypersonic missiles to blow those super slow and lumbering jets out of the air From beyond where our current fighters can kill the launching fighters. So that leaves the need for a replacement for the SR-71 that can go ultrafast, ultrahigh and have the coordinating capabilities of an E-2 or E-3. Although we might have been testing the Auroras/SR-72s we will need a lot more. Or even better replacements. Otherwise our entire plan to deal with Russia and China is useless and our entire military is as outdated as Polish horse lancers charging German tanks in WW2.
Damn.
 
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The real problem is that we have turned our military into more and more of a highly complex weave of cheap drones mixed with geosynchronous satellites for positioning and intel. The Army just cancelled the latest planned small strike helicopter designed to replace some roles of Kiowas and Apaches this week in favor of just more small drones relying on geosat data. And the current Air Force plan of replacing F-22s with a slow F-35 hub that uses an attached swarm of drones and a couple of behind the lines new F-15EX acting as missile trucks hopefully out of the way of more nimble Russian and Chinese sixth gen fighters means that if you know out our geosat capability our Air Force assets are essentially useless. Just some completely useless drones that cant even Fly without the geo sats let alone fight, some 60 year old designed planes that have no stealth and are sitting ducks and a small amount of F-35s which are not designed for equal air to air furballs with equivalent or better dogfighters. The F-35 is designed to hit the opponent when THEY are blind and don’t know what hits them, when the tables are turned because of overreliance on geo sats they are screwed.

So it’s really that our defensive strategy relies on the Air Force establishing dominance in space through exact knowledge of the enemy location. Once that’s taken away from us, our uncrewed and remote crewed are useless and our smart bombs become dumb bombs. We could use assets like the super slow E-2 and E-3s but the Russians and Chinese have developed long range hypersonic missiles to blow those super slow and lumbering jets out of the air From beyond where our current fighters can kill the launching fighters. So that leaves the need for a replacement for the SR-71 that can go ultrafast, ultrahigh and have the coordinating capabilities of an E-2 or E-3. Although we might have been testing the Auroras/SR-72s we will need a lot more. Or even better replacements. Otherwise our entire plan to deal with Russia and China is useless and our entire military is as outdated as Polish horse lancers charging German tanks in WW2.
A10! A10! A10!
 
I went down a few nuclear rabbit holes when I got super interested after watching Oppenheimer a few months ago. I stumbled on the Starfish Prime test in 1962. From what I gather, not so much of a blast without air to expand rapidly, but huge EMP that messed with satellites and electronics on earth, plus radiation raining down into the atmosphere.



You know what that means...GREAT CROP YIELDS!!!!!
 
Don’t worry everyone, an expert (in almost every subject known to man) in the Ukraine thread let us know Russia has very few functioning nukes left anyway and would likely “own goal” themselves as opposed to hitting us.
Texting and driving is super safe according to that expert as well. Fountain of knowledge.
 
I read an article this morning that Russia successfully hit Ukraine with a hypersonic Zircon missile recently, and this was confirmed by the remnants found at the explosion site. These can travel at Mach-8 and are essentially impossible to shoot down. Russia has been boasting about such capabilities for years and were met with skepticism. This is the first tangible proof of their capabilities.
Their effectiveness is not yet proven.

"A Ukrainian forensic research bureau says that Russia used its “Zircon” hypersonic super-weapon to strike Kyiv last week. The facts of the incident are still being established but indications suggest a new humiliation for Vladimir Putin, as another of his supposedly invincible weapons seems to have been shot down by Ukrainian air defences."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...ypersonic-super-missile-ukraine-failure-kyiv/

Russian hypersonic missile scientists are arrested on treason charges. The Kremlin said Wednesday that three scientists face “very serious accusations” after a rare public outcry that comes as Ukraine claimed it had shot many of the missiles down.May 18, 2023

Russian hypersonic missile scientists arrested on treason ...​

NBC News
 
What does a warning do?
MAD

Prevents them from doing it in the first place.

It’s the main reason we survived the Cold War. Neither side could launch an attack without getting annihilated. That’s why they banned space nukes.

This isn’t a good development if true.
 
If true it's a really, really bad development.

if they park a couple space nukes over the US that’d be pretty destabilizing. Almost zero warning if used.
I don't think we would tolerate this. And Russia would have to accept us parking our own nukes over Russia at the very least.
 
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MAD

Prevents them from doing it in the first place.

It’s the main reason we survived the Cold War. Neither side could launch an attack without getting annihilated. That’s why they banned space nukes.

This isn’t a good development if true.
With the amount of Subs the US and Allies have. Think it would be near impossible for Moscow and St. Petersburg not to be ashes as well.
 
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