Start Joe T?
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Way better team with Joe T on the floor
And with Kenyon M instead of pat mac
And with Kenyon M instead of pat mac
Nunge? Not sure what people are seeing in his game. Whenever he is in our offensive flow is terrible.
Pretty obvious. Less PT for JBO, CMAC, PMAC...more PT for JT, Keegan. Take Nunge's 3pt greenlight away. Play some man defense and get out on the hot hands.
Im ready to see JBO playing 5 minutes per game or less.
He brings nothing on either end of the court.
He brings nothing on either end of the court.
Nunge and Garza together is too clunky of a line up. Maybe Keegan?
Keegan should get some of Nunge, Connor and Pat’s minutes. Let’s say 4-6 mins from each.
Except late when you need your point guard/ball handler to make free throws. Then you get Mike Gesell and lost games. That's what Touissant is. Better off putting in Ullis who is 13-14 from the line.
Nunge will be a mid-30’s 3 point% by next year. He shot it well in high school, understandably he’s playing panicky/overly emotional right now. I guess him & Garza is too clunky. Not Nunge’s fault Garza wears invisible ankle weights. If Nunge was hitting 34% from 3 right now, he’d be a very decent PF. He’s a half step slower than Uthoff who was a good athlete at PF. Keegan will start at PF for the next 3 years, but Nunge & Oliver Miller I mean Josh O. should be a nice platoon at C. If Perkins can become James Moses with a better 3 pt shot, this team could be sweet 16 in 2 years. If this team had Keegan & Perkins with a season or 2 under their belts, we’d be a top 5 team. Wether it’s Fran’s length w/o athleticism or all offense with no defense. This team is exciting, but not athletic enough to make an elite 8.
5-Garza/Nunge
4-Nunge or Keegan
3-Wieskamp/Connor
2-CJ/Connor
1-Joe T./JBO
5-Garza/Nunge
4-Nunge or Keegan
3-Wieskamp/Connor
2-CJ/Connor
1-Joe T./JBO
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Nunge is two steps slower than Uthoff. You mentioned Garza has invisible weights on his ankles, Nunge is right there with him. I do like the Oliver Miller reference though.
If you're JBo - do you approach Fran and ask to be benched for the betterment of the team? I understand he has every right to be prideful, but I'm sure he sees it just as much as we do.
Yes. I wish Fran could see your logic but nepotism and loyalty/stubbornness aren't going to allow it I'm afraid
If coach is giving playing time based on seniority (being g a senior) i would not want to play for said coach. Fran better figure this out pretty soon. This maybe the only time iowa has a realistic shot at final 4.
In prior years Bohannon was not only a good shooter, but assist man as well. He set other people up better than Joe T. This season Bohannon hasn't shot well, and Joe's assist numbers are up. IMO Toussaint's freshman season showed potential on defense, but his positional awareness wasn't good.
After 9 games I agree Joe has earned the start. Bohannon isn't as good as Joe based on the early returns.
I agree with you about Bohannon being a good assist man in prior years. Not only is his shooting percentage way down this year but he has had uncharastically bad turnovers reminiscent of a true freshman. To me it seems like JBo's issues right now are between the ears or he's simply not locked in mentally this year which I hope wouldn't be the case.
I think he's lost a step and thats why he's making so many bad passes. He's trying to get rid of the ball before the defender can clamp down on him.
Once the defender gets on him he's in trouble often.
Hes not bringing the ball up the court at all anymore.
I was thinking I seen Joe T. was one of 6 or 7 from the floor and 5 of 8 from the free throw lane and choking his last two free throws to lose the game. I guess it's true the back up QB or point guard is always the fan favorite next guy in?
Wasn't he guarding the guy who made the three pointer to tie the game?
Well, if the posters here demand that JoeT start games,
can we also demand that JoBo finish games?
as I don’t recall jobo ever missing game winning FTs, nor giving up the GW points in any game, (let alone the same game)
can we also demand that JoBo finish games?
as I don’t recall jobo ever missing game winning FTs, nor giving up the GW points in any game, (let alone the same game)
Every single FT by Ulis was in a game that was already decided with absolutely no pressure on him. Maybe he is that good, but I would hate to find out the opposite at a critical point in a close game.
I was thinking I seen Joe T. was one of 6 or 7 from the floor and 5 of 8 from the free throw lane and choking his last two free throws to lose the game. I guess it's true the back up QB or point guard is always the fan favorite next guy in?
He puts pressure on the opponent on both ends.
Iowa is a better team when he is on the court despite his flaws.
JBO had the ball in his hands on Iowas last 2 possessions in regulation.
If you can't recall him giving up points well, I don't believe you're trying very hard to remember.
Yep, already pointed that out somewhere on this site.
That said, anybody else on the Team 13-14 with no pressure? The answer is Nope.
I don't think we could get a worse result than what we ultimately got.......
He should under NO CIRCUMSTANCES be giving the ball up in that situation, and any Coach with a clue makes that perfectly clear. This is no-brainer stuff, the easiest decision Fran could ever make. But Nooooooo!
Seriously? Do you know how silly this sounds when the guy who's freethrow acumen you are pumping is 1 for 2 this year after 9 games? That's 1 point shooting 50 % by my reckoning. Not that it matters considering he never goes to the line
Well, if the posters here demand that JoeT start games,
can we also demand that JoBo finish games?
as I don’t recall jobo ever missing game winning FTs, nor giving up the GW points in any game, (let alone the same game)
JoBo has made 243 of 275 FT for a .884% made, has the longest consecutively made FT in IOWA history (and would be the best FT in IOWA history if he had not on purpose missed a FT to ensure Steets record always remained )
And you probably shouldn’t seriously judge his FT shooting ability based on 2 attempts, correct?
can we also demand that JoBo finish games?
as I don’t recall jobo ever missing game winning FTs, nor giving up the GW points in any game, (let alone the same game)
JoBo has made 243 of 275 FT for a .884% made, has the longest consecutively made FT in IOWA history (and would be the best FT in IOWA history if he had not on purpose missed a FT to ensure Steets record always remained )
And you probably shouldn’t seriously judge his FT shooting ability based on 2 attempts, correct?
But we are talking about the last possession, up 3, when you gladly give up a drive, but you get over and trail the shooter, but you never go under and behind the screener when your responsibility is defending their best 3 point shooter , but that is what happened.
It’s another example of how BB games are lost from the neck up.
I like Joe T, I really do, he’s got great potential, and can be effectively used in many scenarios, but he made 4 errors in the last 2 possessions that unfortunately cost IOWA the game. those are the unbiased facts...
I was thinking I seen Joe T. was one of 6 or 7 from the floor and 5 of 8 from the free throw lane and choking his last two free throws to lose the game. I guess it's true the back up QB or point guard is always the fan favorite next guy in?
Way to cherry pick. You clearly did not watch the game or you are a complete buffoon. JT brought us back with his play at point and defense. Ok dickhead, here is a list of other players who missed ft in second half. Wieskamp, Garza, Cmac, CJF, JT?
None of the guys you pointed out above missed two in the final 6 sec. and then didn't foul Minn. best player with the ball in his hand or then let his man shoot and uncontested 3 pointer. JMO It's hard to have two guards on the floor at the same time who can't score from outside the free throw lane. (CM and Joe)
It was not uncontested, JT got his hand in Carr’s face. JBo can’t currently score from outside the FT line either.
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Everyone who follows Iowa basketball knows that JBO has been abused defensively for the last 4 years including the last game. You're focusing on one shot made by probably the best point guard in the league.. He had 30 for the game. JBO's the worst defender on the team. JT is not only a good on ball defender but is a disruptive presence on the court. Iowa loses most games because of poor defense, particularly at the perimeter.
On the offensive side, you know why JBO has only shot 2 free throws all year. It's because he puts zero pressure on the defense. He can't drive to the hoop and he can't create his own shot. There is no reason to foul him. What good is an 80% FT shooter that never goes to the line? Fact is that JBO is in there to shoot. When he's not shooting at a high percentage he's a net liability. With respect to the 2 missed free throws, JT also made 4 free throws in the last minute. Frederick was 1 for 2 in the last minute. Why aren't you suggesting he get pulled at the end of games? JT's game is superior to JB in pretty much every facet right now. Anyone that can't see that hasn't been watching the games with a clear eye.
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For the record, I actually believe they are both poorer PG than ConMac...
the fact is that JoeT is a very good FT shooter, but unfortunately could not deliver made FTs when it counted, Jobo has demon his ability to make those clutch FTs time and time again over his career.
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