Stoll 2 DQ's

[Lsanders20]

This is what happens when referees use the stalling rules correctly. Makes for interesting wrestling as we saw someone push back and Sammy launched him. The rest of the match his opponent backed off just like we will see at NCAA's, but it won't get called the same way there.

 

[MNkids2IA]

So he'll need to throw them

 

[mike tognetti]

This is what happens when referees use the stalling rules correctly. Makes for interesting wrestling as we saw someone push back and Sammy launched him. The rest of the match his opponent backed off just like we will see at NCAA's, but it won't get called the same way there.

This is folk style wrestling not sumo wrestling.

 

[Exo]

This is what happens when referees use the stalling rules correctly. Makes for interesting wrestling as we saw someone push back and Sammy launched him. The rest of the match his opponent backed off just like we will see at NCAA's, but it won't get called the same way there.

I agree, the matches should be officiated identically from 125-HWT.

 

[WildTurk]

This is folk style wrestling not sumo wrestling.

Tell that to your sister

 

[Lsanders20]

This is folk style wrestling not sumo wrestling.

Correct, and if a wrestler backs straight out of bounds in folkstyle to avoid a grip/body lock it should be called stalling every time not just when they decide to call it. Not only because it is stalling, but because it enables boring wrestling and I think we can all agree that we don't want that.

 

[artradley]

This is what happens when referees use the stalling rules correctly. Makes for interesting wrestling as we saw someone push back and Sammy launched him. The rest of the match his opponent backed off just like we will see at NCAA's, but it won't get called the same way there.

This is folk style wrestling not sumo wrestling.

So the alternative is to let them back out of bounds endlessly with no repurcussion?

 

[HAMNEGGS]

So the alternative is to let them back out of bounds endlessly with no repurcussion?

They know that if they pressure in it's 'Sam Air' airlines.

 

[OneRoughneck]

There is a difference between pushing and trying to score. When Stoll is trying to score then it is stalling but when he is trying to push opponent OOB it is not.

 

[MNkids2IA]

When he's locked up and opponent backs out to get out of trouble it's stalling.

 

[HAMNEGGS]

When he's locked up and opponent backs out to get out of trouble it's stalling.

So. all the calls must be wrong

 

[Banned On The Run]

Stoll better be careful so he doesn't blow his knee out again. That's a lot of weight to bull into.

 

[nitlion6]

There would be a point here if every time someone did push back Sam tried a throw, but we all know that doesn't happen.
If someone dominates the tieups and in the dominant position the wrestlers continuously go out of bounds I would tend to think the reason they keep going out of bounds is because of the actions of the dominant wrestler.

 

[snotknockerhawk]

This is what happens when referees use the stalling rules correctly. Makes for interesting wrestling as we saw someone push back and Sammy launched him. The rest of the match his opponent backed off just like we will see at NCAA's, but it won't get called the same way there.

This is folk style wrestling not sumo wrestling.

So the alternative is to let them back out of bounds endlessly with no repurcussion?

No.... just let them back up and wrestle on the edge like OSU likes....lol

 

[artradley]

There would be a point here if every time someone did push back Sam tried a throw, but we all know that doesn't happen.
If someone dominates the tieups and in the dominant position the wrestlers continuously go out of bounds I would tend to think the reason they keep going out of bounds is because of the actions of the dominant wrestler.

Not sure why you would think that.

 

[Edgar Wade]

I thought this thread would be about Sam eating Blizzards.

 

[bphawkeye_Rivals]

I thought this thread would be about Sam eating Blizzards.

btw - who was that guy that called him out for eating cookies?

 

[Lsanders20]

btw - who was that guy that called him out for eating cookies?

That's hilarious. I was just thinking about that today when I was watching him wrestle. Sam definitely looks different than he did his first year at Iowa. Upper body has changed a lot. Awesome seeing him hit all those shots.

 

[ih8iast8]

So the alternative is to let them back out of bounds endlessly with no repurcussion?

That's the OSU way.

 

[Dagboi]

That's hilarious. I was just thinking about that today when I was watching him wrestle. Sam definitely looks different than he did his first year at Iowa. Upper body has changed a lot. Awesome seeing him hit all those shots.

He’s channeled his inner Grizzly.

 

[Chopper25]

This is folk style wrestling not sumo wrestling.

Not surprising coming from a guy who supports a team who is notorious for wrestling the edge of the mat. What next you're going to be against rule they put in place for lung timeouts?

 

[Grip220]

He’s channeled his inner Grizzly.

If your gonna be a bear be a grizzly! SammyBear looks very good he has his snatch single working really well, his top game is the best at 285 this year and he is just crushing people in tie ups. I’m loving it

 

[GableEdge]

Snatch single will now be called Trump single.

 

[ping72]

I thought this thread would be about Sam eating Blizzards.

btw - who was that guy that called him out for eating cookies?

Account deleted and he moved out of state.

Rumor is Stoll’s conditioning is so good b/c he followed on foot...

RIP

 

[WWDMHawkeye]

This is what happens when referees use the stalling rules correctly. Makes for interesting wrestling as we saw someone push back and Sammy launched him. The rest of the match his opponent backed off just like we will see at NCAA's, but it won't get called the same way there.

Precisely why folkstyle needs a PUSH-OUT RULE (and to eliminate RT, but that’s another discussion). Take the subjectivity out of it, and don’t let refs determine outcomes by swallowing their whistles.

And for the anti-Sumo crowd (to which I used to belong until I actually paid attention to how it affects the action in freestyle), that’s just not a legitimate argument. The net effect of the push-out rule, as we see in freestyle, is that the action tends to stay in the center where it should be.

If we seriously want to see more action, less rewarding of stalling, and less controversy due to inconsistent calls by the refs, we’ll put in the push-out.

 

[nearfall2]

There would be a point here if every time someone did push back Sam tried a throw, but we all know that doesn't happen.
If someone dominates the tieups and in the dominant position the wrestlers continuously go out of bounds I would tend to think the reason they keep going out of bounds is because of the actions of the dominant wrestler.

I would hope it is because of the dominant wrestler. The dominant wrestler is trying to force action. When the other wrestler pushes back or circles too hard Sam scores. It's a set up. Sam makes a lot of attempts in his matches. Spectators who don't understand the difference in heavy weight wrestling miss what he is doing. He uses many Greco set ups and knee pick set ups. That is why he should get a push out point. Then there would be no DQ. If you are getting pushed out that often you should not be a D1 wrestler. Maybe Zain should not be allowed to apply so much pressure when he is on top. He should let people up easy like Sam should let people off the line easy.

 

[artradley]

Precisely why folkstyle needs a PUSH-OUT RULE (and to eliminate RT, but that’s another discussion). Take the subjectivity out of it, and don’t let refs determine outcomes by swallowing their whistles.

And for the anti-Sumo crowd (to which I used to belong until I actually paid attention to how it affects the action in freestyle), that’s just not a legitimate argument. The net effect of the push-out rule, as we see in freestyle, is that the action tends to stay in the center where it should be.

If we seriously want to see more action, less rewarding of stalling, and less controversy due to inconsistent calls by the refs, we’ll put in the push-out.

I'm okay with it just being a stall; but it should be that every time they go out a stall warning is given, and it always goes to the first man out. No more subjectivity.