Supreme Court Will Please Everybody & Nobody at Same Time

[West Dundee Hawkeye]

It just hit me, I bet the Supreme Court rules that Trump is guilty of Insurrection but it is up to each state to determine who can be on their ballot.

The Blue and Red states will each do their thing and either keep Trump on the ballot or take him off. The big question is what will the 5-7 battleground states do?

This will be like the Abortion Ruling. The decision must be made at the state level.

 

[Scruddy]

It just hit me, I bet the Supreme Court rules that Trump is guilty of Insurrection but it is up to each state to determine who can be on their ballot.

The Blue and Red states will each do their thing and either keep Trump on the ballot or take him off. The big question is what will the 5-7 battleground states do?

This will be like the Abortion Ruling. The decision must be made at the state level.

Lol they're not determining if Trump committed a crime he was never even charged with you dolt

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

9-0.

There's gonna be a lot of sad faces on HROT.

 

[theiacowtipper]

I don’t think so. I believe that they will rule he is not affected by that section. That the president is not affected.

 

[theiacowtipper]

9-0.

There's gonna be a lot of sad faces on HROT.

You keep saying this when every single liberal on this board knows the way they are going to rule. The Supreme Court is simply an extension of the RNC at this point.

 

[3 and Out on D]

They will rule 6-3 in favor of Trump. It's just that simple. It's embarrassing how corrupt the Supreme Court has become.

 

[joelbc1]

Lol they're not determining if Trump committed a crime he was never even charged with you dolt

What does “indicted” mean in your world, scruffy?

 

[West Dundee Hawkeye]

Lol they're not determining if Trump committed a crime he was never even charged with you dolt

What the hell are they doing then?

Why the hell would they take the case if there was nothing to it?

I thought the State of Colorado said he is guilty of inciting insurrection or is that just fake news?

Did what we all see on Jan. 6 not really occur?

Give me a flipping break.

Are you one of those delusional Trumpers?

 

[TC Nole OX]

They will rule 6-3 in favor of Trump. It's just that simple. It's embarrassing how corrupt the Supreme Court has become.

Yep, this is most likely. The supreme court’s majority is billionaire owned and will deliver a GQP friendly ruling.

 

[Hawk_4shur]

SCOTUS will likely rule it is up to the states, or at least that's what they should rule based on my limited understanding of the Constitution.

They will also rule that POTUS does not have immunity from crimes.

 

[Hawk_4shur]

Question - so, if he's not on the ballot in 8 or 10 states, can he still win primaries in those states?

 

[Jimmy McGill]

I'm telling you all right now....SCOTUS will not do the right thing.

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

You keep saying this when every single liberal on this board knows the way they are going to rule. The Supreme Court is simply an extension of the RNC at this point.

So you believe it will be 9-0?

 

[mthawkeyes]

If they rule that it is up to states to enforce parts of the Constitution, then I look forward to several states passing very stringent gun laws that SCOTUS won't touch. After all, it's up to the states to determine how they wish to regulate their own militias. (We just know that those militias are to be well-regulated.)

 

[Scruddy]

What does “indicted” mean in your world, scruffy?

He has not even been charged with Insurrection. Educate yourself.

What the hell are they doing then?

Why the hell would they take the case if there was nothing to it?

I thought the State of Colorado said he is guilty of inciting insurrection or is that just fake news?

Did what we all see on Jan. 6 not really occur?

Give me a flipping break.

Are you one of those delusional Trumpers?

They will determine first and foremost if the 14th ammendment even applies to the president. Many legal scholars say it absolutely doesn't. The state of Colorado also doesn't have the authority to just say he's guilty of anything. The rule of law in this country is you're completely innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Trump has never been charged with inciting an insurrection even let alone found guilty of it.

 

[goldmom]

You keep saying this when every single liberal on this board knows the way they are going to rule. The Supreme Court is simply an extension of the RNC at this point.

So then the RNC is the bulwark protecting the Constitution?

Am I among the very few who apparently detests the fact that it’s even come to this?

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

They will rule 6-3 in favor of Trump. It's just that simple. It's embarrassing how corrupt the Supreme Court has become.

Yep, this is most likely. The supreme court’s majority is billionaire owned and will deliver a GQP friendly ruling.

What BS.

An all D Colorado Supreme Court split 4-3 on the decision. It’s not like there’s a consensus on this…

SC tosses it and D’s will use it as “evidence” the SC is corrupt and illegitimate.

So predictable.

Funny how “the institutions must be protected” until they do something you don’t agree with.

 

[goldmom]

They will rule 6-3 in favor of Trump. It's just that simple. It's embarrassing how corrupt the Supreme Court has become.

It’s embarrassing that you’d embarrass yourself for posting such drivel.

 

[goldmom]

I'm telling you all right now....SCOTUS will not do the right thing.

What’s the right thing in your opinion?

 

[Scruddy]

What BS.

An all D Colorado Supreme Court split 4-3 on the decision. It’s not like there’s a consensus on this…

SC tosses it and D’s will use it as “evidence” the SC is corrupt and illegitimate.

So predictable.

Funny how “the institutions must be protected” until they do something you don’t agree with.

This will absolutely be part of their strategy to attempt to undermine the legitimacy of the Supreme Court. Very predictable.

 

[goldmom]

Yep, this is most likely. The supreme court’s majority is billionaire owned and will deliver a GQP friendly ruling.

You need more sleep. A LOT more.

 

[Scruddy]

What’s the right thing in your opinion?

The "right thing" to the left is always synonymous with "what I want personally".

 

[goldmom]

Question - so, if he's not on the ballot in 8 or 10 states, can he still win primaries in those states?

For some reason the Republicans believe they can bypass the traditional primary process in CO and go to a caucus?
I don’t know enough about how that works in CO under their state laws.

 

[joelbc1]

It’s embarrassing that you’d embarrass yourself for posting such drivel.

It equally embarrassing that so many “well informed, patriotic” Americans endorse the man who committed treason against the government he took an oath to uphold. The Orange Mother-phuquer attempted to interfere with the orderly transfer power on 1/6/21 and by definition (Constitution...which so many here hold as sacrosanct). Many here have chosen to willfully ignore what Trump did on that day and hope the rest of us will forget what happened, as time goes by.

 

[Hoosierhawkeye]

SCOTUS will likely rule it is up to the states, or at least that's what they should rule based on my limited understanding of the Constitution.

They will also rule that POTUS does not have immunity from crimes.

I don't think they can rule that way. I mean that is basically saying that if someone is eligible for federal office is up to the states to decide.

My guess is they put him back on the ballot on the justification that he has to be convicted of the crime first.

I am uncomfortable with the precedent that one can just be ruled ineligible with no trial.

 

[BioHawk]

Question - so, if he's not on the ballot in 8 or 10 states, can he still win primaries in those states?

He can survive Colorado and Maine being off the ballot but Illinois will cause him problems as there is a much larger population there and could shift the vote tally. Then again, he has such a huge lead he may still win.

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

What do HROT liberals have to say about liberal states that rule in Trump's favor?

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States where challenges have failed​

On Thursday, California Secretary of State Shirley Weber said she will include Trump on her state’s primary ballot despite pressure from public officials, including Lt. Gov. Eleni Kounalakis, to remove him.

“I am guided by my commitment to follow the rule of law,” Weber wrote in a letter to Kounalakis. “As such, it is incumbent upon my office to ensure that any action undertaken regarding any candidate’s inclusion or omission from our ballots be grounded firmly in the laws and processes in place in California and our Constitution.”

One day earlier, the Michigan Supreme Court rejected hearing an appeal of a lower court’s ruling that kept Trump on that state’s primary ballot. The court said it denied the request by the watchdog group Free Speech for People “because we are not persuaded that the questions presented should be reviewed by this court.”

The appeals court had earlier ruled that the Republican Party could place anyone it wants on the primary ballot. It did not weigh in on whether the 14th Amendment might disqualify Trump in the general election.

In November, the Minnesota Supreme Court took a similar stand, ruling that state law allows parties to place whomever they want on their primary ballots while leaving open the possibility that plaintiffs could try again to boot Trump from the November ballot.

In September, New Hampshire’s top election official, Secretary of State David Scanlan, said state law requires him to put anyone on the ballot who pays the filing fee and attests to meeting age, citizenship and residency requirements. Scanlan concluded that the 14th Amendment does not pertain to the election process.

“At a time when we need to ensure transparency and build confidence among voters around the country, the delegate selection process should not be the battleground to test this constitutional question,” he said.

In addition, a federal judge in October dismissed a lawsuit from a little-known Republican presidential candidate, John Anthony Castro, challenging Trump’s eligibility on New Hampshire’s ballot, ruling the Texan lacked standing to sue there. The ruling was upheld by the 1st Circuit Court Appeals a few weeks later.

Judges in Arizona, Rhode Island and West Virginia also have tossed lawsuits filed by Castro based on his lack of legal standing. He is appealing the rulings in Arizona and West Virginia.

And Judges in Virginia and Florida also have dismissed lawsuits, alleging the plaintiffs there, too, lacked standing to challenge Trump’s eligibility.

According to a tracker by The Lawfare Institute, 11 other lawsuits have been voluntarily dismissed by plaintiffs. Those were in Connecticut, Delaware, Idaho, Kansas, Massachusetts, Montana, New Jersey, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania and Utah.

A look at where Trump ballot challenges stand

Fourteenth Amendment cases have been brought in 31 states

ny1.com

 

[joelbc1]

What’s the right thing in your opinion?

To uphold the Constitution as it is written. To provide some legal clarity to this mess. To act like judges for once and not pollsters.

 

[Hoosierhawkeye]

It equally embarrassing that so many “well informed, patriotic” Americans endorse the man who committed treason against the government he took an oath to uphold. The Orange Mother-phuquer attempted to interfere with the orderly transfer power on 1/6/21 and by definition (Constitution...which so many here hold as sacrosanct). Many here have chosen to willfully ignore what Trump did on that day and hope the rest of us will forget what happened, as time goes by.

Authoritarianism is fun when your people are the authoritarians. Sucks for everyone else but Trump's people will be happy. Even when the kangaroo courts start passing down death sentences.

 

[goldmom]

It equally embarrassing that so many “well informed, patriotic” Americans endorse the man who committed treason against the government he took an oath to uphold. The Orange Mother-phuquer attempted to interfere with the orderly transfer power on 1/6/21 and by definition (Constitution...which so many here hold as sacrosanct). Many here have chosen to willfully ignore what Trump did on that day and hope the rest of us will forget what happened, as time goes by.

I sincerely hope that I wake up tomorrow and America will be rid of two old idiots running for President and that we tell ourselves we deserve and require better. I know you and most of the damn fools on here don’t because you’re screaming socialist shills.
Any chance that happens?

 

[joelbc1]

I sincerely hope that I wake up tomorrow and America will be rid of two old idiots running for President and that we tell ourselves we deserve and require better. I know you and most of the damn fools on here don’t because you’re screaming socialist shills.
Any chance that happens?

“Two old idiots”?
Socialist shills...moi? Hardly.But there are something’s that capitalism just cannot effectively accomplish. (Healthcare accessibility for one, military and security functions for the nation would be another, business/communications infrastructure too.)
What the Orange turd wants us a Fascist form of government...and his followers like the idea that they won’t have to be involved in governance and someone else will do their thinking for them).
Perhaps mom we deserve better...but I ask...Don’t we get what we ask for? AfterLl, it’s America....and you can’t blame the Democrats for the piss poor choices Republicans have made over the past decade or so.

 

[sabula]

What the hell are they doing then?

Why the hell would they take the case if there was nothing to it?

I thought the State of Colorado said he is guilty of inciting insurrection or is that just fake news?

Did what we all see on Jan. 6 not really occur?

Give me a flipping break.

Are you one of those delusional Trumpers?

Scruffy clueless... again.

 

[sabula]

This will absolutely be part of their strategy to attempt to undermine the legitimacy of the Supreme Court. Very predictable.

So you mean just like Lying Donnie Sexual Abuser did with the DOJ, FBI, and CIA... because he didnt like their findings? Ok, got it.

 

[goldmom]

So you mean just like Lying Donnie Sexual Abuser did with the DOJ, FBI, and CIA... because he didnt like their findings? Ok, got it.

What did they find? 😂

 

[CarolinaHawkeye]

9-0.

There's gonna be a lot of sad faces on HROT.

Sad faces of people who love America, democracy, and hate fascism. The opposite of you, and all the other low-life maga scumbags.

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

Sad faces of people who love America, democracy, and hate fascism. The opposite of you, and all the other low-life maga scumbags.

They must not have offered anger management courses at Dana.

 

[CarolinaHawkeye]

They must not have offered anger management courses at Dana.

Why? You wouldn't have been able to be admitted anyway, given your intellect.

 

[Tom Paris]

It’s embarrassing that you’d embarrass yourself for posting such drivel.

Wut? You’re simply going to dismiss all of Thomas’ corruption? Kavanaugh having debt paid off? It’s amazing how you people ignore all that but fall for the Hunter Biden crap. He’s right. The conservative justices are corrupt as hell.

 

[Tom Paris]

I sincerely hope that I wake up tomorrow and America will be rid of two old idiots running for President and that we tell ourselves we deserve and require better. I know you and most of the damn fools on here don’t because you’re screaming socialist shills.
Any chance that happens?

What makes you say Biden is an idiot? For the 20th time, he’s much smarter than you. AIAEC. Trump, who you voted for twice, and Joe Biden are nothing alike. Trump posted again that they should repeat January 6 again.

He’s our enemy. Joe isn’t.

 

[theiacowtipper]

So you believe it will be 9-0?

No