More likely Mexico will respond with reciprocal tariffs and the citizens of both the US and Mexico will suffer, not the drug cartels.
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Fair enough, thanks for the link. Either way I don’t think tariffs make one bit of difference here.
You do realize that a number of fentanyl overdoses are not from addicts
It's just ****ing dumb and ineffective. As you will see, there is zero connection between tariffs on legal products and the illegal drug trade. Most of the fentanyl is imported by Americans who are crossing borders legally. Better intelligence and more effective screening of shipping through legal ports of entry is the only way to mitigate this problem to any extent.
I can't believe how stupid our country has become.
Trump threatening military action against the cartels is probably the dumbest thing he’s said and that’s really saying something.
MAGA - Man, this drug problem is terrible, let's hit ourselves in the nuts until it ends!!
RNHawk - that sound brilliant!
RNHawk - that sound brilliant!
I can’t believe how stupid and divided we have become that we argue over this
Address the causes of drug addiction. Poverty, mental health, homelessness, etc.
"drug addiction is killing too many americans"
"we should provide programs and resources to help addicts and reduce the occurrence of ODs/deaths"
"no...we should do tarriffs"
"we should provide programs and resources to help addicts and reduce the occurrence of ODs/deaths"
"no...we should do tarriffs"
If you want to go after the fentanyl you go after the money. Even with Bitcoin it still has to be moved by bankers somewhere.
No, how do non drug addicts overdose on fentanyl?
Argue over what? A stupid idiotic policy idea that has no chance at success? You're right. It's ****ing insane.
Trump pardoned the Silk Roads guy which lead to drug deaths. You are deluding yourself if you believe Trump's reasoning. He wants the tariffs because he wants tariffs, this is his excuse to try to sell it.
If Trump understands one thing it is marketing. You do not have to mold yourself into his positions. Do you get a rise out of playing a stupid version of devil's advocate?
This. Anyone that believes these tariffs weren’t inevitable I would like to offer my beautiful beachfront property I have in council bluffs Iowa.
Are we going to invade Mexico to go to war with drug cartels?
It sometimes gets mixed with other less harmful/addictive drugs like cocaine or MDMA by people who might be partaking on a rare basis something that they don't know will kill them.
So still illegal drug users, just not fentanyl addicts.
Can see the US drone bomb them and special ops. My question is the blow back from that though. Destabilize Mexico’s economy and turn the entire country into a war zone. Sending refugees to our border.
Also the cartels do not respect the rules of war. Can see them go after soft targets in the US in retaliation. They’re not a half a world away like Iraq or Afghanistan.
So we are not providing programs and resources? Last i checked narcan was more readily available than ever, more education and awareness continues throughout the country
Well yeah. Not everyone who's ever tried a drug is an addict. That would probably infer that 70-80% of the country's adults are drug addicts.
I was just going to write about the abysmal failure of the war on drugs. But like COVID and war, Trump is just going to wave his magical tariff wand and it will all quickly disappear.
If we have less money we can't buy drugs. My avocado budget is gonna put a big dent on my fentanyl budget.
I'm just saying that using illegal drugs has always come with a risk because you can't count on them being pure. The solution would be to legalize them so they could be regulated for quality control.
I’ll assume this is a serious question.
If we’re going to fight this conventionally, or the ways that we have done it in the past, you must do it with cooperation from the Mexican authorities. If we don’t have their cooperation, they tide of illicit drugs will likely increase as opposed to decrease, because you’ll reduce the incentive of those opposing governments to actually do something about it.
Trump has been talking about tariffs for a long time and I think he’s using any justification to apply them. It’s one of the few things the president can actually do unilaterally, so he’s going to use them.
As to him throwing the American military inside of a sovereign nation to attack the cartels, there couldn’t be a worse idea. The cartels avoid conflict with Americans and the authorities here as much as they possibly can. If we start attacking the cartels, what’s to stop their agents in the US from you know… car bombs and stuff?
As for what I would do, I assume you’ll vehemently disagree and that’s okay, I would decriminalize all drugs and throw all of the funds we are currently using to prosecute the war on drugs to how to treat addicts and help people struggling. I think we have the entire thing bass ackwards but that’s a pipe dream.
So the majority of you want to continue what we have been doing
FFS are you a moron? The demand is high. It's going to stay high. Americans love drugs.
Well obviously the Mexican government is not cooperating and this is a way to make them come to the table
The cartels are already murdering people especially in the border states
If I stipulate to legalizing drugs will you stipulate that no EMERGENCY care would be provided to them?
Of course not. We should spend more money on a wall that will also have zero effect on the fentanyl trade. Maybe Mexico will even help pay for it. 😃
