Texas celebrates 50th anniversary of Tower Massacre with campus carry

[jscott78]

I think this is the law that will finally allow conservatives to take total control of university classrooms. Just let the kiddies bring their guns to class.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewi...us-carry-shooting-anniversary-charles-whitman

 

[IACub]

What could possibly go wrong?

 

[ft254]

What could possibly go wrong?

What could possibly go wrong?

OK Corral at Lunch. Sundown shootout after gym. Will make for great selfies.

 

[TexMichFan]

What makes you think we were not already bringing guns to class?

 

[TJ8869]

Campus carry wouldn't have helped much in the Charles Whitman case. He barricaded himself inside the clock tower and it took a small army of police officers and armed citizens an hour and a half to finally take him down.

 

[strummingram]

 

[TexMichFan]

What could possibly go wrong?

The same thing that has happened on some campuses that are gun free zones.

 

[IACub]

The same thing that has happened on some campuses that are gun free zones.

So you're saying open carry wouldn't have prevented those massacres? Good, we agree.

But the next time Bubba spouts off in class, ol' Jim Bob might just take him out. Yeehaw!

 

[IACub]

But that would never happen, right? Right? Oh wait, it just happened.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/09/us/northern-arizona-university-shooting/index.html

 

[TexMichFan]

So you're saying open carry wouldn't have prevented those massacres? Good, we agree.

But the next time Bubba spouts off in class, ol' Jim Bob might just take him out. Yeehaw!

Why did the laws against shooting somebody and killing somebody and the gun free zone not work?

We have all these laws and regulations and still people break them and your answer is if we just passed more laws and regulations the problem would be fixed. If the possibility that you will be killed or receive the death penalty if you get caught does not stop you what makes you think your next round of laws and regulations will work?

If this would have been one of the many shootings that happened off campus last night it would not have made the news.

 

[IACub]

Why did the laws against shooting somebody and killing somebody and the gun free zone not work?

We have all these laws and regulations and still people break them and your answer is if we just passed more laws and regulations the problem would be fixed. If the possibility that you will be killed or receive the death penalty if you get caught does not stop you what makes you think your next round of laws and regulations will work?

If this would have been one of the many shootings that happened off campus last night it would not have made the news.

If it wasn't so easy for a psycho killer to get a gun do you think this would happen as often? Look, most of my friends that own guns, I'd be fine with them owning a bazooka if they want. But why can't we limit gun ownership to those who are proven to be responsible and sane? Why should it be easier to get a gun than to get a driver's license?

 

[TexMichFan]

If it wasn't so easy for a psycho killer to get a gun do you think this would happen as often? Look, most of my friends that own guns, I'd be fine with them owning a bazooka if they want. But why can't we limit gun ownership to those who are proven to be responsible and sane? Why should it be easier to get a gun than to get a driver's license?

The problem we are going to have is figuring out who the proven to be responsible and sane are? Are we going to pass a law and make all psychiatrist and social workers turn over a list of names for people to be checked against the gun registry? Big can of worms there with plenty of land mines.

The statistic and information I keep looking for is if the laws we want to pass would have stopped any of the recent mass school shootings? I know Huey likes to point out that most of the guns were legal so what is going to make your new laws work better?

I am not against better background checks but I also don't think it will make a difference.

 

[IACub]

The problem we are going to have is figuring out who the proven to be responsible and sane are? Are we going to pass a law and make all psychiatrist and social workers turn over a list of names for people to be checked against the gun registry? Big can of worms there with plenty of land mines.

The statistic and information I keep looking for is if the laws we want to pass would have stopped any of the recent mass school shootings? I know Huey likes to point out that most of the guns were legal so what is going to make your new laws work better?

I am not against better background checks but I also don't think it will make a difference.

Why not even try? And before anyone says it, if you're scared the gub'mint is gonna take away yer guns, then you're the crazy person that I don't think should have guns.

 

[TexMichFan]

Why not even try? And before anyone says it, if you're scared the gub'mint is gonna take away yer guns, then you're the crazy person that I don't think should have guns.

The government would have a hard time taking my guns because since I don't own any.

This is a hard topic but passing laws just so we can feel like we are doing something is not the answer IMHO. What would have stopped the killings that happened? What would the unintended consequences of those laws going to be? For example would somebody who needs help decide not to go to a physicist and get some help because they wouldn't want to be stigmatized. It may be someone who does not own assault rifle. Plenty of people seek help and never have any thoughts of committing a murder.

 

[IACub]

The problem we are going to have is figuring out who the proven to be responsible and sane are? Are we going to pass a law and make all psychiatrist and social workers turn over a list of names for people to be checked against the gun registry? Big can of worms there with plenty of land mines.

The statistic and information I keep looking for is if the laws we want to pass would have stopped any of the recent mass school shootings? I know Huey likes to point out that most of the guns were legal so what is going to make your new laws work better?

I am not against better background checks but I also don't think it will make a difference.

Why not even try? And before anyone says it, if you're scared the gub'mint is gonna take away yer guns, then you're the crazy person that I don't think should have guns.

The government would have a hard time taking my guns because since I don't own any.

This is a hard topic but passing laws just so we can feel like we are doing something is not the answer IMHO. What would have stopped the killings that happened? What would the unintended consequences of those laws going to be? For example would somebody who needs help decide not to go to a physicist and get some help because they wouldn't want to be stigmatized. It may be someone who does not own assault rifle. Plenty of people seek help and never have any thoughts of committing a murder.

First of all, they would likely see a psychiatrist, not a physicist. The physicist would just describe bullet trajectories and stuff.

I agree it's difficult. There could be unintended consequences. Horrible things would still happen. But a guy like James Holmes should never have been able to own a gun.

 

[TexMichFan]

Why not even try? And before anyone says it, if you're scared the gub'mint is gonna take away yer guns, then you're the crazy person that I don't think should have guns.


First of all, they would likely see a psychiatrist, not a physicist. The physicist would just describe bullet trajectories and stuff.

I agree it's difficult. There could be unintended consequences. Horrible things would still happen. But a guy like James Holmes should never have been able to own a gun.

If the physicist could change the trajectories that maybe the answer.

I agree on James Holmes but how do you stop him from getting a gun? Did he have them before his mental illness overcame him or did he buy them just to commit the crime?

This is kind of like dealing with someone who commits suicide - how many times has that happened where the people who know the person best say they had no idea this could happen?

 

[IACub]

If the physicist could change the trajectories that maybe the answer.

I agree on James Holmes but how do you stop him from getting a gun? Did he have them before his mental illness overcame him or did he buy them just to commit the crime?

This is kind of like dealing with someone who commits suicide - how many times has that happened where the people who know the person best say they had no idea this could happen?

He bought the guns after he admitted homicidal thoughts to his shrink. I'm not saying there will ever be a perfect system, but anything would be better than what we have today. Which is nothing, where everyone has access to firearms.