That was a terrible call against Sparty
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They did get jobbed. The whole game was bad. Minot sure if you guys have had that crew, but man they suck
Now when we play Nebraska they will likely be on a 2 game winning streak thinking of what bowl game they can get if they beat Iowa. Crap. At least MSU's odds of getting the Rose Bowl just took a dive.
There was a bad no-call PI that helped MSU. There were bad calls that helped MSU in that game too.
Yeah this was a huge blow to MSU getting the Rose now if they go down to OSU as well but hopefully this doesn't give Nebby solid momentum they are a talented team that has just underachieved. But ia ma pumped now that even if Iowa wins out and losses to OSU Iowa would go to the Rose now!!
I would be in favor of the officials being suspended. First, the obvious running out of bounds. But the review is the main thing. Whether or not the receiver was pushed out of bounds was not under review, because that is not reviewable. It was whether the receiver actually went out of bounds.
There was not doubt about the receiver going out of bounds and hi-5ing a fan, then coming in for a catch. That is poor officiating...
Still, MSU shouldn't have found themselves in this position against such a poor Nebbie team. Sad.
In football - there is no such thing as losing on a single play. If you're in that position in the first place - more than a single play got you there.
Michigan State has a great passing O ... but they've been skirting the razors edge for too long. They finally slipped. I hate Dantonio ... so I'm not going to cry about their loss.
Besides, as Augur rightly points out ... the MSU loss helps our Rose Bowl chances IF we can manage to win out through the regular season.
Minnesota receiver was just out of bounds on big play and refs never even threw the hat. Getting ridiculous
I imagine it was hard for the referees to discern whether the DBs back hand was forcing the WR out. Frankly, if the DB kept on covering the WR ... then he could have knocked it away.
Can I imagine if it would happen to us? No ... our DBs would have kept on covering the guy. MSU's secondary is pretty mediocre. MSU's pass D has benefitted from a strong pass rush. If that pass-rush isn't getting home ... the secondary gets torched as a result.
I don't feel bad for them one bit.
[QUOTE="ghostOfHomer777, post: 1173716, member: 13920"]In football - there is no such thing as losing on a single play. If you're in that position in the first place - more than a single play got you there.
Michigan State has a great passing O ... but they've been skirting the razors edge for too long. They finally slipped. I hate Dantonio ... so I'm not going to cry about their loss.
Besides, as Augur rightly points out ... the MSU loss helps our Rose Bowl chances IF we can manage to win out through the regular season.[/QUOTE]
I stopped reading there.
Michigan State has a great passing O ... but they've been skirting the razors edge for too long. They finally slipped. I hate Dantonio ... so I'm not going to cry about their loss.
Besides, as Augur rightly points out ... the MSU loss helps our Rose Bowl chances IF we can manage to win out through the regular season.[/QUOTE]
I stopped reading there.
MSU had their chances in this one. A play or 2 prior to this one MSU could have ended game on INT but failed to catch it. While I dont agree with the call, it os what it is. Could the WR been forced out - maybe but MSU had their chances throughout the game....
That's interesting because it took the refs quite a while to confirm the TD on the field before it even went to review. As if to say "it's going to be reviewed anyway".
Hold up: did we see ANY shot of when the Nebraska receiver FIRST stepped out? I haven't seen one yet. If not, who is to say that he wasn't forced out by the corner? Anyway, this is good for us as members of the B1G West AND for our mentality going into Lincoln. As for Sparty, you live by the fluke (Michigan) you die by the fluke (Nebraska).
In the college game if the WR (or anyone else) is thought to be 'forced out' they can come in bounds and be first to touch ball. They just have to reestablish themselves in the field of play. I would hope the NCAA goes to the NFL rule where there are no force outs and the person who steps out cannot be first to touch...
then we have to determine what "forced out" means. Is the simple fact that the defender cut the receiver off so he had to go out of bounds to get around him "forced out"? Or does there have to be contact? The replays showed he went out of bounds prior to ANY contact-- there was some contact as he was out of bounds.
That wasn't my point. My point was if there was a force out, it would have happened greater than five yards from the line of scrimmage (because if it was within five, the Nebraska receiver ran 30 yards out of bounds and that's a penalty), and thus would have been illegal contact downfield. That flag wasn't thrown so the ref either didn't see it or he didn't think it happened. Either way, he should not have granted the catch.
Just for clarification, there is no 5-yard illegal contact rule in college football. The defender can make continuous contact (not holding) with eligible receivers at any point on the field until the ball is in the air.
It was a Sparty arm bar in endzone and didn't nebraska end up punting? Not like it wasn't material to game. Sparty gave up like 35 points regardless of the bad call---maybe they should have stopped some of the other TD's.
It was bad call, that is true.
If you watch the entire play he was forced out at the 13 yard line...Because of the contact the play stood...if the call went the other way there would have been complaining about the call too. setting up to be a fun game environment at LIncoln the day after thanksgiving, it will be loud...
It was the correct call. The call on the field stood because contact was made making it unreviewable.
Funny, only Nebraska fans think it was the correct call. FYI, unreviewable doesn't equal correct. Also, the clowns on the field took forever to confirm the TD even before the review so they probably thought it would be reviewed anyway.
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The rules were followed which makes it a good call. The DB made contact with the reciever pushing him out of bounce.
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