That Whole Jump Ball Sequence Makes you Wonder.......
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ok buckwheat nobody can communicate a timeout it must be called by someone on the floor. the point of the 18 TOs to go along with 40% FG shooting is that if we have 5 less TOs that could be 6 to 8 more points along with the fact if we make 45% FGs that is 5 to 7 more points and we are not in a position where a missed call (they did miss the foot ) hurts. grow up we beat ourselves.
does not mean that the official can see it looks to me like murphys shoulder is blocking his view. bradys mouth is open how do you know he is not breathing hard?
here you can see Brady verbally calling a timeout...
as well motioning with his hand for a timeout.
ignore the comeback ? where is that coming from? believe me i am just as big a hawk as any of you.i enjoyed the game . did the missed foot out of bounce make me happy ? hell no. but i reffed high school Bball for 22 years i know how hard it is to be in perfect position all the time, not going to happen. the bottom line is we did have 18 TOs, we did shoot only 40% FGs , they the team put themselves in a position where a missed call hurt us.
I'll turn myself in to the proper authorities right away.
you remind me of someone a long long time ago.....the man would yell at the radio anytime one of our players would screw up...would yell at Ralph Miller 'you're an idiot'...he would never point out anytime we did well..silent.
Our family had some of the 1970 Big10 Champions over for supper one night (after the season had ended)...the man melted. He was pretty tough when he could yell at the radio (sometimes TV) ... but not so much when face to face. He made watching the few games on TV miserable.
you point out the TO's...now you add in the FG%...not a word on the comeback...not a word on the turnovers our mid court trap created. Silent.
So ya those poor refs can sure get out of position ... but hey it doesn't matter when you turn the ball over 18 times in 50 minutes..ya those poor refs. The bottom line ... ya those damn 18 turnovers.
ya we should feel fortunate that we could play 2 overtimes after the refs blew it out their rear ends in regulation.
if I shot myself in my foot it wouldnt be as painful....you are one piece of work. So now he cant see the timeout...give it up.
this exact moment is when Brady is saying "Out"... after saying "Time"
this is the Out part of TimeOut
you can look at the video to confirm...
also notice his hands are signaling Timeout...
and notice where the defenders feet are... he still has yet to maneuver himself out of bounds before he lunges for the ball.
I don't believe that ref should be fired... I believe he should be put in prison.
this is a clear indication of Fraud...
this is a violation against all those who play the game... and all those who watch the game.
and it is precisely the reason why I no longer attend games in person.
he was ordering a Whopper from Papa Beef.
this exact moment is when Brady is saying "Out"... after saying "Time"
this is the Out part of TimeOut
you can look at the video to confirm...
also notice his hands are signaling Timeout...
and notice where the defenders feet are... he still has yet to maneuver himself out of bounds before he lunges for the ball.
I don't believe that ref should be fired... I believe he should be put in prison.
this is a clear indication of Fraud...
this is a violation against all those who play the game... and all those who watch the game.
and it is precisely the reason why I no longer attend games in person.
and where is the ref?...but Papa says he wasn't out of position...
this is that same moment in time
yep....and there is Little Pitino the Pimp Jr....on the floor....
The official didn't "blow" the call. The stills above, which are pretty bad, aren't as bad as the video. Play it from that point forward. The official is approaching the play, with his view improving in literally tenths of seconds. He was looking directly at the play.
No one else in the world gets to excuse an "error" of that magnitude in job performance by claiming not to have seen something that video and photographic evidence shows they are, in fact, seeing. "Judge, I just didn't see the red light. The dash cam shows it was red but I did not see it" won't take you far in court. Or try that fable on the boss when you plow the company truck into another vehicle's rear end?
He's a command officer in a huge police force; so here's a better question, what kind of police force does Pittsburgh field?
No one else in the world gets to excuse an "error" of that magnitude in job performance by claiming not to have seen something that video and photographic evidence shows they are, in fact, seeing. "Judge, I just didn't see the red light. The dash cam shows it was red but I did not see it" won't take you far in court. Or try that fable on the boss when you plow the company truck into another vehicle's rear end?
He's a command officer in a huge police force; so here's a better question, what kind of police force does Pittsburgh field?
Not kidding at all. Made 2 calls to Rick Boyages today. Predictably, I had to leave a voice message... I did prep him pretty good for my next attempt though.
Tom Eades(official who got hurt in Nebraska game) is 62. Age catches up with you. I officiate HS girls BB and two games a week is my limit.
I hate when people don't put shit into context and just repeat what their dumbass elementary school basketball coach told them. Brady wanted to shoot those free throws. He's going to hold the ball until they foul him and he obviously knew he had a timeout in his back pocket just in case he got in trouble. We're not talking about a ****ing press break here.
wow the ref is in position just like i said you people dont realize you can get to close.
this is that same moment in time
wow this proves my point exactly, can you see bradys face? nope. can you see his hands? nope . and murphy might have the ball already tied up and regardless of what you all think the ref is in position.
this is that same moment in time
You are a piece of work. This vantage point is from Bob Ueker seats and proves nothing. This thing has been hashed and rehashed and nobody's opinion has been changed....we know your position and you know ours.... that we got bent over. Now, "the secret to getting things done is to act". Be gone with you, thorn in my side
When you're burning clock with a plan to call timeout when challenged and the other option is dribbling between two defenders, it makes sense. You have to consider the context and plan.
That ref was not in bad position and was even working to get in better position. Remember, when the play started everyone was moving the direction but Brady did the opposite and the ref reacted. The rest of the hawks did not do a good job of getting in front of a ref to call it either. Do I think they got the end call incorrect, yes, but I don't think ref position is that bad. The trail official was and should have been on the end line.
You can't have it both ways, Iowa.
You can't claim both of the following:
- The ref was out of position
- The ref missed calling the obvious timeout
One or the other. Which is it?
My take is that yes, the ref was out of position...but again, he was expecting the ball to move *upcourt*. But for some reason Iowa decided to pass backwards and then dribble into the corner. Now he's out of position. Oops.
If he's out of position, he can neither hear nor see the timeout call.
And regarding how come you can hear it on TV...it's called a parabolic microphone. The ref himself is not parabolic. Look it up.
You can't claim both of the following:
- The ref was out of position
- The ref missed calling the obvious timeout
One or the other. Which is it?
My take is that yes, the ref was out of position...but again, he was expecting the ball to move *upcourt*. But for some reason Iowa decided to pass backwards and then dribble into the corner. Now he's out of position. Oops.
If he's out of position, he can neither hear nor see the timeout call.
And regarding how come you can hear it on TV...it's called a parabolic microphone. The ref himself is not parabolic. Look it up.
you're banking on the idea that every body is an absolute moron.
If U don't think Beaver & Larry were out of position...then you either never reff'd like you claim...or you were one bad ref.
Like hanging out at mid court? that doesn't sound like a ref to me.
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