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The all-time winning percentage of 5 seeds in the BTT is only 9th best of all the seeds

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Sorry, Hawkeyes. No. 5 seeds at Big Ten struggle
Iowa was a No. 5 last year, and that didn't work out too well

Mike Hlas
Cedar Rapids Gazette
Mar 7, 2016 at 12:11 pm
http://www.thegazette.com/subject/sports/sorry-hawkeyes-no-5-seeds-at-big-ten-struggle-20160307


I don’t want to discourage you Iowa basketball fans, but being the No. 5 seed in the Big Ten tournament hasn’t been a good thing.

The all-time winning percentage of fifth-seeds in the tourney is only the ninth-best of all the seeds. Crazy, huh?

Of course, that includes No. 13 seeds, which are 2-1 all-time since Penn State was the first 13th-seed last year and promptly won twice.

No. 5 seeds are 11-18. No. 6 seeds, on the other hand, are 28-16.

No fifth-seed has ever won the tourney, and only one — Ohio State in 2009 — has reached the title game in the first 18 Big Ten tourneys.

In fact, only one team seeded lower than fourth has won the tourney. That was Iowa in 2001, which was a sixth-seed. It is the only team to win four games in a single tournament, a feat this year’s Hawkeyes will need to accomplish to win the tournament.

In 2001, Iowa avoided the top two seeds in the most upset-riddled tourney in the Big Ten’s history. It beat No. 4 Indiana in the championship game.

Those were better days. The Hawkeyes haven’t advanced to the tourney semifinals since 2006, when they won the event for the second time. That’s nine straight years of never seeing Saturday at the event. To get to Saturday this year, they’ll need to bump off either Illinois or Minnesota, then No. 4 Purdue.

Iowa has been the fifth-seed on three occasions in this tourney. It lost each time. The first two times were in the first two years of the tourney, 1998 and 1999. Those were against fourth-seeds. Last year, Iowa didn’t get to the 4/5 game. It lost to 13th-seed Penn State.

Fifth-seeds are 3-0 against No. 12 seeds.

Should Iowa beat either No. 12 Illinois or No. 13 Minnesota (it will be Illinois. Minnesota got routed at Rutgers Saturday.) and get No. 4 Purdue Friday, history says it will be a tossup. The fourth-seed has won nine times and lost eight.

Iowa is 15-16 in the tournament.

Only seven teams have won the tourney. Ohio State has won five times, Michigan State four, Wisconsin three, Iowa and Illinois two, Michigan and Purdue one.

That’s right, Indiana has never won it. Or Rutgers.

The record for rebounds in a Big Ten tourney was set by Iowa’s Reggie Evans in 2001 and still stands at 51. Second-place? Evans’ 44 in 2002.

The tourney record for points in a tourney is also a Hawkeye’s. Luke Recker scored 91 in 2002.
 
I believe that we have been in the 4/5 game on four different occasions, and lost all of them, (twice as the 4, twice as the 5).

Just sayin..
 
I believe that we have been in the 4/5 game on four different occasions, and lost all of them, (twice as the 4, twice as the 5).

Just sayin..

i dont like the fact that Purdue is sitting there, waiting for us on Friday, all rested up and being reminded that Iowa swept them in the regular season.
 
If Iowa wins the first game, the Purdue game, in a sense, will be a no lose situation.
If we lose, tough to beat a team 3 times, prob won't affect NCAA seed much.
But if we win...!!!;)
 
11-18 to me insinuates that there have been upsets galore in the 5-hole for the BTT.

Of course, then I'm reminded that the 5-seed's first game has only been against a lower ranked seed four times.

From 2012-2014 (Nebraska joined), the 5-seed played the 12-seed.
Beginning last year, the 5-seed played the winner of the 12/13-seed game.
Before 2012, the 5 was immediately matched up against the 4 where I would expect them to have a losing record.
 
What the hell, I wanted to look this up anyway:

There have been 18 Big Ten men's tournaments prior to this year. Iowa won 2 of them, so we have been eliminated 16 times. Here's the breakdown by teams:

5. Michigan (1998 5/4 game, 2004 4/5 game, 2008 8/9 game, 2009 7/10 game, 2010 8/9 game)

4. MSU (2000 2/7 game, 2011 7/10 game, 2012 1/8 game, 2013 3/6 game)

2. Wisconsin (1999 5/4 game, 2005 3/7 game in a semi-final)

2. OSU (2002 2/9 in the championship game, 2003 8/9 game)

1, Purdue (2007 5/4 game)

1, Northwestern (2014 6/11 game)

1. Penn State (2015 13/5 :eek:game)

We have lost our first game 11 out of 18 tourneys, but my reckoning.

Also, the following league teams have NEVER eliminated us from the conference tourney:

Indiana (yowzers)

Illinois (jinx)
Minnesota (jinx)

Nebraska (never played)
Maryland (never played)
Rutgers (never played)
 
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As of 8 years ago a black guy had never been elected president. And as of just a few days ago, no NBA team had ever won 45 straight home games. And as of about 12 years ago there was serious consideration given to contracting the Kansas City Royals out of their charter as a Major League Baseball franchise. And as of just a few months ago Iowa's football program had never won more than 9 games in a row to start a season or gone 12-0. And as of just a few years ago, Tiger Woods was still secretly banging pornstars. And as of about 25 years ago, 'Bean had never seen a Squatch.

Things change.
 
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As of 8 years ago a black guy had never been elected president. And as of just a few days ago, no NBA team had ever won 45 straight home games. And as of about 12 years ago there was serious consideration given to contracting the Kansas City Royals out of their charter as a Major League Baseball franchise. And as of just a few months ago Iowa's football program had never won more than 9 games in a row to start a season or gone 12-0. And as of just a few years ago, Tiger Woods was still secretly banging pornstars. And as of about 25 years ago, 'Bean had never seen a Squatch.

Things change.

Don't recall saying that anything was impossible, cupcake.

At least you didn't refer to yourself in the 3rd person like a moron as you usually do.
 
Don't recall saying that anything was impossible, cupcake.

At least you didn't refer to yourself in the 3rd person like a moron as you usually do.

Dude, he didn't even quote you. What was your old user name before you got banned and had to create this one?
 
Here is some of my data from the previous thread
#1 – Ind seeded #1 two times (2013 and 2016) and as high as #1 and as low as #11
#2 – MSU been seeded #2 four times (2000, 2001, 2005 and 2016) and as high as #1 and as low as #7
#3 – MD been seeded #3 one time (2016) and as high as #2 and as low as #3
#4 – Pur been seeded #4 two times (2003 and 2016) and as high as #2 and as low as #12
#5 – Iowa been seeded #5 four times (1998, 1999, 2015 and 2016) as high as #2 and low as #10
#6 – Wisc been seeded #6 two times (2000 and 2016) and as high as #1 and low as #10
#7 – OSU been seeded #7 one time (2016) and as high as #1 and low as #11
#8 – Mich been seeded #8 four times (2000, 2007, 2010 and 2016)and as high as #1 and low as #10
#9 – NW been seeded #9 four times (1998, 2006, 2009 and 2016) and as high as #6 and low as #11
#10 – PSU been seed #10 two times (2014 and 2016) and as high as #6 and low as #13
#11 – Neb been seeded #11 two times (2012 and 2016) and as high as #4 and low as #12
#12 – Ill been seeded #12 one time (2016) and as high as #1 and low as #12
#13 – Minn been seeded #13 one time (2016) and as high as #5 and low as #13
#14 – Rut been seeded #14 two times (2015 and 2016) and as high as #14 and low as #14

Illinois overall record is 26-16 with two BTT titles in six championship games
Indiana overall record is 11-18 with no BTT titles in one championship game
Iowa overall record is 15-16 with two BTT titles in three championship games
Maryland overall record is 1-1 with no BTT titles in no championship games
Michigan overall record is 16-17 with one BTT title in two championship games
Michigan St overall record is 24-14 with four titles in five championship games
Minnesota overall record is 15-18 with no BTT titles in one championship game
Nebraska overall record is 1-4 with no BTT titles no championship games
Northwestern overall record is 7-18 with no BTT titles no championship games
Ohio St overall record is 29-13 with five BTT titles nine championship games
Penn St overall record is 11-18 with no BTT titles in one championship game
Purdue overall record is 10-17 with one BTT title in two championship games
Rutgers overall record is 0-1 with no BTT titles no championship games
Wisconsin overall record is 21-15 with three BTT titles six championship games

Iowa’s record by round is
Play- In round (Wed) 0-0
Opening round (Thurs) 6-7
Quarterfinals round (Fri) 4-7
Semifinals round (Sat) 3-1
Finals round (Sun) 2-1

Iowa’s record vs
ILL 1-0
IND 2-0
MND 0-0
MIC 0-5
MSU 2-4
MIN 2-0
NEB 0-0
NWN 2-1
OSU 2-2
PSU 1-1
PUR 2-1
RUT 0-0
WIS 1-2

ILL record as #12 is 0-0
IND record as #1 is 1-1
IOW record as #5 is 0-3
MND record as #3 is 0-0
MIC record as #8 is 2-3
MSU record as #2 is 3-2
MIN record as #13 is 0-0
NEB record as #11 is 0-1
NWN record as #9 is 0-3
OSU record as #7 is 0-0
PSU record as #10 is 0-1
PUR record as #4 is 1-2
RUT record as #14 is 0-1
Wis record as #6 is 2-1

Iowa has never played a #12 and is 0-1 against #13
Iowa’s record against #4 seed is 0-2
 
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