But did they have a barista and massive indoor playground.My sister dragged me to hers. It was cringy.
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But did they have a barista and massive indoor playground.My sister dragged me to hers. It was cringy.
Yes and yes.But did they have a barista and massive indoor playground.
Probably true to an extent. But we're not in person interacting. We're not enjoying beer together. We don't live physically near. It's not as good. Example of a replacement not being as good as the original.HORTGOAT is an example of the online places that have replaced churches. Not just churches, but service clubs like Rotary or Lions.
Probably true to an extent. But we're not in person interacting. We're not enjoying beer together. We don't live physically near. It's not as good. Example of a replacement not being as good as the original.
So is being a proud communist.Well, believing in a virgin birth is a bad starting point
Ol' Doodle takes exception to this!!Exactly. You dont know really who you are interacting with. People play roles, etc.
Facebook is worse though.
Ol' Doodle takes exception to this!!
You'll have to connect the dots here. Maybe finding the dots first would be helpful.So is being a proud communist.
Some who have left the Catholic Church were upset with
the coverup of the child abuse by priests.
Some who have left Protestant churches were upset with
their parishes condoning same-sex marriages and gay clergy.
Bottom Line: The exodus from American congregations has
happened because pastoral leadership has lost their focus on
Christ who is the foundation of Christian beliefs.
This is the part that always gets me. People assume church=good but in reality a lot of the time church= making a shit person feel good about themselves. My mom never went to church until I was 20 years old. By the time I was 22, she was going 3-4 times a week....then it turns out she had been having a long affair outside of her marriage w/ my dad. She was drowning herself in church to try and balance out how shitty of a person she is.The Christian religion thing began to make no sense. Why were these people going to church listening to the same crap every Sunday with different words as matter of routine. No conviction. They were cheating on each other's wives and the minister was looking up girl's shirts, just a microcosm of society.
Science has proven many things our ancestors, through no fault of their own, were legitimate miracles by a greater power, such as God; were not miracles or some work of a high power. So the whole premise of this type of after life, miracles and such, has been exposed, that’s one of the big issues.
No. People leave the church b/c it isn't worth the effort. Listening to the constant, redundant messages week after week while seeing the lack of effect those messages have on behavior, including fellow members is not a recipe for keeping the crew happy.
The older stories grow the less believable or are considered believable. And the story of Christ is just that: a story. Immaculate conception. How many more generations can you spin that yarn to before the whole flock says "WTF?". People are born without information and gather and process it based on environment and exposure. I was baptized, raised going to church, Sunday school. the whole ball of wax.
The Christian religion thing began to make no sense. Why were these people going to church listening to the same crap every Sunday with different words as matter of routine. No conviction. They were cheating on each other's wives and the minister was looking up girl's shirts, just a microcosm of society.
So, IMO religions, I can only relate to Christian- related have created their own problem. By being judgmental and self-serving they have continually ostracized younger generations. Christianity is special because it came at a point in history when publishing and distribution made is so. Every religion has or will run its course.
Science has proven many things our ancestors, through no fault of their own, were legitimate miracles by a greater power, such as God; were not miracles or some work of a high power. So the whole premise of this type of after life, miracles and such, has been exposed, that’s one of the big issues.
All due respect but do you even know what the Immaculate conception is? It doesn't mean the virgin birth, it means Mary was born without original sin. It's confusing, I know.
It doesn't make sense to me why anyone would leave church because some of the members are hypocrites or bad people. Would you leave school because of that? I bet you had classmates that were great and some that were garbage and everything in-between. Would you leave this message board because some posters suck?
Church isn't a social club that should be judged by its worst members.
Most of my personal friends are Jewish.
Lastly, I suppose it comes down to what one believes is the purpose of life. To me, the only purpose of life is to attain the Beatific Vision after death.
That's it
Immaculate Conception | Definition, History, & Feast
Immaculate Conception, Roman Catholic dogma asserting that Mary, mother of Jesus, was preserved from original sin from the instant of her conception.www.britannica.com
A Pope made this arbitrary decision. I rest my case on this issue, which is part of my argument. You think the Bible is divine. It's a freaking book.
The topic of the thread is attendance, and I provided (some of) my opinions on why it's losing members. You can ramble on with visions and beauties, but churches are losing members.
Only when virtue signaling (think Dobbs) and cancel culture start supporting neo Nazis it will be time to compare the two.Ideology has taken hold of both religious Liberals and Conservatives. Liberals have their weird virtue signaling and cancel culture. Conservatives have their weird oppressive laws against marginalized groups.
Both sides are seeking gratification through inappropriate actions. Their "lizard brains" have been fully hijacked.
If you are a normie, you're stuck living in a world with both if these groups.
A sh*t sandwich and a nuclear waste sandwich are both disgusting sandwiches. I'm smart enough to know which one is worse. I make my own moral compromises where I need to, but at the same time I don't chide others who choose neither of them.Only when virtue signaling (think Dobbs) and cancel culture start supporting neo Nazis it will be time to compare the two.
Unbelievable.
Omg.A sh*t sandwich and a nuclear waste sandwich are both disgusting sandwiches. I'm smart enough to know which one is worse. I make my own moral compromises where I need to, but at the same time I don't chide others who choose neither of them.
You need to think bigger. Christ is focused on the entire globe, not just the US. Christianity globally is growing, projected 2.9 billion by 2050. Some of the fastest growth today is in the underground churches in Iran and China (often led by women).You can ramble on with visions and beauties, but churches are losing members.
You need to think bigger. Christ is focused on the entire globe, not just the US. Christianity globally is growing, projected 2.9 billion by 2050. Some of the fastest growth today is in the underground churches in Iran and China (often led by women).
Christian population growth - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
It’s cute when people take what their “faith” leaders tell them about authors like Schopenhauer that they’ve clearly never read themselves. The true self worship comes from the cult of pedophiles and narcissists that is the American evangelical churches of the last half century.Not that I know of.
In western philosophy, the atheist philosophers like Nietszche, Sartre and Schopenhauer basically worshipped themselves.
It’s cute when people take what their “faith” leaders tell them about authors like Schopenhauer that they’ve clearly never read themselves. The true self worship comes from the cult of pedophiles and narcissists that is the American evangelical churches of the last half century.
I look at denominations like the Unitarians or liberal Christians like UCC and wonder how those keep going at all. Once you cross the "I dont believe in the miracles" bridge I am not sure how you stay in the organized game. I went to a UCC church for a time and its filled with people going to church and professing something they dont really believe for the most part. I flirted with the Unitarians and they are nice people and many of them are in in for specific causes like the environment. Ultimately, one can read, study and meditate and find their own path.