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The Governor Who Stood Up to Trump

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The president sees himself as national king, and every other American—including Maine Governor Janet Mills—as one of his quavering subjects.

By Jonathan Chait

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/02/trump-king-maine-governor/681799/



The Trump administration is enmeshed in a long and rapidly growing list of legal challenges to the novel powers it has claimed for itself. But to try to understand the situation in terms of the individual cases, and the legal questions they implicate, is to miss the forest for the trees. The larger picture is that Donald Trump refuses, or is simply unable, to grasp any distinction between the law and his own whims.

That conflation was on display once again today at a meeting of governors at the White House. As Trump lectured the audience on his executive order banning transgender girls and women from participating in girls’ and women’s sports, he paused to single out Maine Governor Janet Mills.

“Are you not going to comply with it?” he demanded of her. “I’m complying with state and federal laws,” she replied. To this, Trump shot back, “We are the federal law.”

It is entirely possible that, if the state of Maine challenges the executive order, Trump will prevail legally. But what is important about this exchange is not whose interpretation of Title IX and the Administrative Procedure Act has a better chance to win five votes on the Supreme Court. It is that Trump is treating the law as coterminous with his own desires.

Trump then threatened Mills with the prospect of stripping away federal funding for her state: “You better do it, because you’re not going to get any federal funding at all if you don’t.” Legally, it is possible for the federal government to deny states certain funding streams under certain conditions. But Trump cannot simply cut Maine off financially because the state chooses to challenge a federal policy. Distinctions like this, however, seem totally lost on the president, who sees himself as national king—note his use of the royal we—and every other American, including each of the 50 states, as one of his quavering subjects.

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Trump has grown ever more brazen about his belief that his activities are by definition legal, and activities he opposes by definition criminal. That belief is implied by a long, long list of statements and actions, stretching from his career in business, when he routinely treated laws (forbidding him from discriminating against Black tenants or committing tax fraud) as suggestions; to the final days of his presidency, when he attempted to overturn his election defeat; to his post-presidency, when he flagrantly disregarded requirements that he turn over classified documents. It is also implied by his habit of describing a long list of political opponents as criminals.

Trump recently summarized this belief by writing on X, “He who saves his Country does not violate any Law.” (The possibly apocryphal quote is commonly attributed to Napoleon Bonaparte, who was, famously, a dictator.) His statement to Mills is utterly consistent with this belief: Since Trump cannot violate the law, it follows that the law means whatever he says. He has progressed from demonstrating his disregard for the law to stating it as a doctrine.


Trump’s supporters have followed his lead. When the White House announced a spending freeze last month, Matthew J. Vaeth, acting director of Trump’s budget office, wrote, “Career and political appointees in the Executive Branch have a duty to align Federal spending and action with the will of the American people as expressed through Presidential priorities.” Of course, the Constitution does not say that the will of the people is expressed exclusively through the president. It divides legitimate authority between three branches of government, resting the spending authority in the hands of Congress.

Paula White, the newly appointed White House faith adviser, has gone further, once stating, “To say no to President Trump would be saying no to God.” Far from reassuring the American people that they continue to live in a democratic republic, Trump and the White House have lately leaned into the divine-right theme with a series of social-media posts depicting Trump as a king for overruling New York City’s congestion-pricing system.

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Last week, the Wall Street Journal editorial board, which has occasionally scolded Trump for his naughtiness, dismissed fears that the country is entering a constitutional crisis as “overwrought.” Trump, the editors insisted, was merely testing the bounds of his executive authority, in this case by destroying a series of federal programs and agencies authorized by Congress. It is true, as the Journal argues, that previous presidents have tested the boundaries of their authority. But there is a point at which the executive branch moves so far and so fast that the eventual promise of legal redress means little. If you fire all the employees of a department and cancel its contractors, they’ll go broke waiting for the Supreme Court to rule in their favor. Imagine a Democratic administration setting out to replace every white Evangelical church in America with EV-charging stations—even if they agreed to abide by the courts in the event of an adverse ruling, this wouldn’t offer much comfort.

But the larger dynamic is that Trump isn’t merely pushing to redefine the boundaries of the law or even the Constitution. He is rejecting the principle that the law constrains him at all. The existence of a constitutional crisis cannot be understood solely in terms of the discrete claims of the executive branch vis-à-vis the other two. A president who maintains that the law means whatever he wants it to mean is a constitutional crisis.
 
Look, I appreciate that a governor is showing a spine to Trump. I just wish they would pick a better issue to stand up to his bullying.

Biological men in women’s sports is a topic that hurt the Dems in the 24 election for no good reason. 70% of the country is against it. 70%! It is folly to drag this back into the spotlight. It will backfire.

Pick one of the other bazillion topics to fight him on please.
 
Look, I appreciate that a governor is showing a spine to Trump. I just wish they would pick a better issue to stand up to his bullying.

Biological men in women’s sports is a topic that hurt the Dems in the 24 election for no good reason. 70% of the country is against it. 70%! It is folly to drag this back into the spotlight. It will backfire.

Pick one of the other bazillion topics to fight him on please.
Eff this. Trans is the issue Dems need to stand up to Trump with. If Rs can make being trans illegal, they can make anything illegal. It's like saying nobody should have stood up for the Jews during the Holocaust.
 
Look, I appreciate that a governor is showing a spine to Trump. I just wish they would pick a better issue to stand up to his bullying.

Biological men in women’s sports is a topic that hurt the Dems in the 24 election for no good reason. 70% of the country is against it. 70%! It is folly to drag this back into the spotlight. It will backfire.

Pick one of the other bazillion topics to fight him on please.
She is not fighting him on that she is fighting him on federal overreach. A President who thinks his word is law. I wonder what the polls would say in that?
 
Standing up to trump by spitting in the face of women. Keep these optics up dems!!! Mid terms will be an even worse beating than the last election 😂

And LOL at those claiming that telling someone they have to obey the law is impeachable. You people pushing this are fully retarded
I do not understand why this is the hill Democrats want to die on.
 
Eff this. Trans is the issue Dems need to stand up to Trump with. If Rs can make being trans illegal, they can make anything illegal. It's like saying nobody should have stood up for the Jews during the Holocaust.
Well I voted Hillary, Biden and Harris and I don’t think biological men should be in women’s sports. And I am FAR from the only one with that voting profile.

I 100% support trans people to live their life freely, to have the same rights as every other citizen. They are free to play sports and I welcome that. But I’m not ok with taking something away from women because of an unfair advantage. That is no longer about rights.
 
The debate on federal overreach can go back and forth with merit.

The bottom line is Title IX is a federal law. Trump is right on this issue.
He isn't. Trans people deserve protection just like anyone else. This has nothing to do with sports. Sports is just a test case to see if they can ban being trans overall. In Iowa we will soon make it a felony for adult trans people to even speak in public. Sports is just the foot in the door.
 
She is not fighting him on that she is fighting him on federal overreach. A President who thinks his word is law. I wonder what the polls would say in that?
I know that.

But Americans won’t. Dems will lose on this narrative because Trump will say he was protecting women in sports and the Dems are not.

It is the absolute worst topic to make your stand on.

Why do Dems suck so much at this?
 
Well I voted Hillary, Biden and Harris and I don’t think biological men should be in women’s sports. And I am FAR from the only one with that voting profile.

I 100% support trans people to live their life freely, to have the same rights as every other citizen. They are free to play sports and I welcome that. But I’m not ok with taking something away from women because of an unfair advantage. That is no longer about rights.
You can see that it has in no way stayed to sports. Rs are banning trans people from stuff completely unrelated to sports. Trump has all but purged most trans federal workers.
 
He isn't. Trans people deserve protection just like anyone else. This has nothing to do with sports. Sports is just a test case to see if they can ban being trans overall. In Iowa we will soon make it a felony for adult trans people to even speak in public. Sports is just the foot in the door.
Except the issue started as a sports issue Huey and will be litigated by Trump as a sports issue and the Dems will lose on it.

Know when and where to fight and when and where to spend your political capital. This is not that issue and not that moment,
 
You can see that it has in no way stayed to sports. Rs are banning trans people from stuff completely unrelated to sports. Trump has all but purged most trans federal workers.
I am 100% for fighting for trans equality. So do that. But don’t fight the sports thing. It has nothing to do with rights and it wastes capital. It actually hurts your cause.
 
Eff this. Trans is the issue Dems need to stand up to Trump with. If Rs can make being trans illegal, they can make anything illegal. It's like saying nobody should have stood up for the Jews during the Holocaust.
Look, to a large extent I understand the hysteria because I don’t trust Trump or his minions either. But separating girls and boys sports is a matter of federal law, and for good reason.

Yes, I agree in large part bigotry is the motivation behind a lot of Trump’s rhetoric on transgender people. It’s the lowest hanging fruit that Trump knows riles up his base and gets his dick sucked in the process. It’s also wrong for them to ban all transgender people from serving in the military, as the military is not supposed to discriminate on the basis of gender. There is a lot wrong with Trump’s LGBTQ policies and rhetoric that should be stood up to. Transgender people have the right to be treated with dignity and respect and should have equal rights under the law. I am on board with all of that.

But going against segregation of girls and boys sports once a child gets into adolescence is not the hill liberals should be dying on. One) it’s not a winning issue and two) the science and facts are not on their side.
 
He isn't. Trans people deserve protection just like anyone else. This has nothing to do with sports. Sports is just a test case to see if they can ban being trans overall. In Iowa we will soon make it a felony for adult trans people to even speak in public. Sports is just the foot in the door.
See my response above.
 
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Eff this. Trans is the issue Dems need to stand up to Trump with. If Rs can make being trans illegal, they can make anything illegal. It's like saying nobody should have stood up for the Jews during the Holocaust.
Yes dems! You must!!!
 
Look, to a large extent I understand the hysteria because I don’t trust Trump or his minions either. But separating girls and boys sports is a matter of federal law, and for good reason.

Yes, I agree in large part bigotry is the motivation behind a lot of Trump’s rhetoric on transgender people. It’s the lowest hanging fruit that Trump knows riles up his base and gets his dick sucked in the process. It’s also wrong for them to ban all transgender people from serving in the military, as the military is not supposed to discriminate on the basis of gender. There is a lot wrong with Trump’s LGBTQ policies and rhetoric that should be stood up to. Transgender people have the right to be treated with dignity and respect and should have equal rights under the law. I am on board with all of that.

But going against segregation of girls and boys sports once a child gets into adolescence is not the hill liberals should be dying on. One) it’s not a winning issue and two) the science and facts are not on their side.
It has nothing to do with "gender", it has to do with mental and physical readiness.

I put gender in quotes because I have a feeling you and I disagree on the definition of the word.
 
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Yes dems! You must!!!
When it comes to Trump, I largely agree with Huey.

The problem is when histrionics come into play, which happens too often in these discussions. There is no longer a course of constructive dialogue that can be had when the false dichotomy is imposed of either being on board with biological men competing in women’s sports or being silently complicit in the rounding up of all transgender people to be sent to the gas chambers.

I don’t know what purpose presenting such ridiculous and fallacious binary choices serves other than to ensure more and more people are turned off by your rhetoric and politics. This self-defeating strategy becomes even more perplexing when you consider there are indeed important discussions to be had related to transgender rights. Unfortunately, those discussions get buried under the histrionics of Nazi death camp charges simply because there are concerns raised about the negative impact on cis girls due to biological males competing against them in sports.

I don’t get it.
 
It has nothing to do with "gender", it has to do with mental and physical readiness.

I put gender in quotes because I have a feeling you and I disagree on the definition of the word.
I agree exceptions should not be made if someone does not qualify mentally or physically. However, there are plenty of transgender individuals who are capable of meeting the mental and physical rigors of serving in the armed forces. In fact, we know this because plenty of transgender people already have.

So, no, I do not agree banning transgender people from serving in the military is ethical, practical, or legal. In fact, I believe it is steeped almost entirely in bigotry and hate.

I doubt you and I have too variant of views on gender, but that point is moot when it comes to respecting the law and upholding the dignity of all human persons.
 
Look, I appreciate that a governor is showing a spine to Trump. I just wish they would pick a better issue to stand up to his bullying.

Biological men in women’s sports is a topic that hurt the Dems in the 24 election for no good reason. 70% of the country is against it. 70%! It is folly to drag this back into the spotlight. It will backfire.

Pick one of the other bazillion topics to fight him on please.

That's not the real issue. The POTUS just publicly threatened to withhold federal funding from an entire state in an attempt to get a Governor to do his bidding and end around the legal process.

The reason he chose to do it shouldn't matter in the slightest.
 
That's not the real issue. The POTUS just publicly threatened to withhold federal funding from an entire state in an attempt to get a Governor to do his bidding and end around the legal process.

The reason he chose to do it shouldn't matter in the slightest.
Title 9 is the law. Break the law and you face consequences. She's literally asking for this.
 
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I agree exceptions should not be made if someone does not qualify mentally or physically. However, there are plenty of transgender individuals who are capable of meeting the mental and physical rigors of serving in the armed forces. In fact, we know this because plenty of transgender people already have.

So, no, I do not agree banning transgender people from serving in the military is ethical, practical, or legal. In fact, I believe it is steeped almost entirely in bigotry and hate.

I doubt you and I have too variant of views on gender, but that point is moot when it comes to respecting the law and upholding the dignity of all human persons.
My point was that mental illness has been and should be disqualifying of anyone serving in the armed forces. That goes triple for people on brain chemistry altering "medication".
 
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Except the issue started as a sports issue Huey and will be litigated by Trump as a sports issue and the Dems will lose on it.

Know when and where to fight and when and where to spend your political capital. This is not that issue and not that moment,
Reynolds is set to take trans people off the protected discrimination list. So now anyone can openly discriminate against them. You can get fired for being trans now. This has nothing to do with sports. Wake up.
 
Always remember Zelensky stood up to Trump about turning over documents on Hunter Biden.
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I agree exceptions should not be made if someone does not qualify mentally or physically. However, there are plenty of transgender individuals who are capable of meeting the mental and physical rigors of serving in the armed forces. In fact, we know this because plenty of transgender people already have.

So, no, I do not agree banning transgender people from serving in the military is ethical, practical, or legal. In fact, I believe it is steeped almost entirely in bigotry and hate.

I doubt you and I have too variant of views on gender, but that point is moot when it comes to respecting the law and upholding the dignity of all human persons.
Military isn't boy or girl scouts. Show me a transgender person that you want flying your commercial flight. The pool of emotionally fit qualified people will be very small.

It isn't necessarily based on bigotry and hate. I know what my eyes see and my interactions tell me. A person that I know went through the change. I can talk to them all day about Ag. I would never want them flying my plane.

What we did to blacks at Camp Dodge was bigotry. I don't know anyone trans that isn't an emotional mess. A lot of that (don't know how much) is bio/chemistry related.

The military isn't a social experiment. I doubt you know much about the military. If you did you would know better.

Listen to this interaction between a male FTC and a female pilot.

Tell me you can't hear issues in the conversation.

The woman took a "damsel in distress role". FTC took an "I'm going to help a damsel in distress role".

Neither of them took on an androgynous role in the conversation which is really what you are getting at.

The military isn't boys and girls carrying toy guns. The job of the military is to kill the enemy. There are natural differences between the sexes which for some reason you ignore. Transitioning doesn't start one and stop the other. Hormonal imbalances in anyone can create chaos. This is ripe for chaos.

The military isn't a job for chaos. It's being precise in a world of chaos.

 
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