The Governor Who Stood Up to Trump

[DFSNOLE]

Many are would have voted Dem. Not a drunk and Tim. That’s exactly what it is about.

THE GOP HAD MANY, MANY OPTIONS BEFORE THE GENERAL ELECTION! THEY CHOSE TRUMP. NO ONE ELSE BUT THE GOP IS TO BLAME.

 

[sabula]

That's not the real issue. The POTUS just publicly threatened to withhold federal funding from an entire state in an attempt to get a Governor to do his bidding and end around the legal process.

The reason he chose to do it shouldn't matter in the slightest.

Threatening people, or in this case the citizens of an entire state. That's kind of Bonespurs schtick. Remember when he threatened zelensky to dig up dirt on Biden and give it to him, or else he was going to withhold support for ukraine? That's what Bonespurs does.
However it's also got him one of his two impeachements.

 

[Jerome Silberman]

Many are would have voted Dem. Not a drunk and Tim. That’s exactly what it is about. Dumb **** shit nole

 

[Jerome Silberman]

Threatening people, or in this case the citizens of an entire state. That's kind of Bonespurs schtick. Remember when he threatened zelensky to dig up dirt on Biden and give it to him, or else he was going to withhold support for ukraine? That's what Bonespurs does.
However it's also got him one of his two impeachements.

Yes, Trump is a bad and dangerous president. It's obvious.

 

[DFSNOLE]

Many are would have voted Dem. Not a drunk and Tim. That’s exactly what it is about. Dumb **** shit nole

Look at you editing your post to call me childish names when you've lost the debate. Quite mature of you. Just another thing you've learned from your dear leader.

 

[sabula]

Look at you editing your post to call me childish names when you've lost the debate. Quite mature of you. Just another thing you've learned from your dear leader.

Iowa farm boy, burned!!

 

[Arbor1]

The public needs to understand that if the POTUS can do what he's threatening to do it won't matter who they are, what they believe or who they voted for, any or all government intervention and services will be delivered at the discretion and whim of whoever is POTUS.

Trump is President precisely because of Biden doing this! 🤪🤡🤪 Along with his cadre of partisan extremists of course.

 

[billanole]

The day he keels over dead should be a national holiday.

The line to piss on his grave will be epic. Shucks, it will even dwarf the line at OP’s mom’s crib.

 

[Urohawk]

You idiots have that want to talk about science and ignore basic biological science. Weird. lets inject a castrated make with female hormones and make the female or vice versa and all chemistry will be fine in a human. What kind of shit science is that. Not a question btw

I'm talking about American citizens participating in the military and doing their part as a person trying to protect this great nation. I'm not the one calling into question their commitment or competency to serve in the armed forces. You aren't even responding to what I'm saying. You seem upset because I'm making good points.

 

[IIowaFarmBoy]

THE GOP HAD MANY, MANY OPTIONS BEFORE THE GENERAL ELECTION! THEY CHOSE TRUMP. NO ONE ELSE BUT THE GOP IS TO BLAME.

I'm talking about American citizens participating in the military and doing their part as a person trying to protect this great nation. I'm not the one calling into question their commitment or competency to serve in the armed forces. You aren't even responding to what I'm saying. You seem upset because I'm making good points.

No way in combat I want a woman or a trans person beside me. In combat Anyone who understands combat would feel the same. The aim is to kill and keep from getting killed. It’s science you dolt.

 

[IIowaFarmBoy]

Look at you editing your post to call me childish names when you've lost the debate. Quite mature of you. Just another thing you've learned from your dear leader.

I’m made a spelling mistake. Follow the science

 

[IIowaFarmBoy]

Nice gif of the Dem ticket

 

[DFSNOLE]

I’m made a spelling mistake. Follow the science

And now you're a liar too. Quite the combination. Your original post is in post #121.

 

[IIowaFarmBoy]

And now you're a liar too. Quite the combination. Your original post is in post #121.

No and you are an idiot

 

[DFSNOLE]

No and you are an idiot

No. I pointed out fact. Back to your hero's tactic of name calling again. You're a small man like him too.

 

[IIowaFarmBoy]

No. I pointed out fact. Back to your hero's tactic of name calling again. You're a small man like him too.

That’s you dude and you whine when the favor is returned. You should try actual dialog. Your dialog is like your science.

 

[Obviously Oblivious]

I’m honestly confused - what lie do I believe? I know the Maine governor is taking a stand on state’s rights. But that is not how this will play out in the court of public opinion. The GOP will weaponize this because it is easier for everyday folks to see it as a boys in girls sports topic. The Dems will not be able to do to counter that because the GOP has branded the Dems as the party that favors boys in girls sports even if it is not true,

In politics, like in war, you have to pick the battles you want to fight and understand which battles aren’t worth it. The Dems always want to fight everything to their own detriment. Hammer the issues that matter to the average voter. Unfortunately the Dems are going to get played on this one.

Anyway, I will take your advice and give it a rest. Have a great night.

The lie that Democrats are monolithic in support of trans women competing against biological women in athletics. I’m pretty certain a large percentage of democrats don’t support that at all, including myself.

I also don’t think it’s government’s role to sort this out, let the respective athletic associations and organizations do their damn jobs. The governor of Maine doesn’t speak for me, nor most of us.

 

[hawkeyetraveler]

The lie that Democrats are monolithic in support of trans women competing against biological women in athletics. I’m pretty certain a large percentage of democrats don’t support that at all, including myself.

I also don’t think it’s government’s role to sort this out, let the respective athletic associations and organizations do their damn jobs. The governor of Maine doesn’t speak for me, nor most of us.

I actually agree on all fronts and I am confident many Dems think like you and I do on this topic. My issue was solely that this is a political weight tied around the Dems ankles. They would be far better off if they simply didn’t give Trump his talking points.

 

[DFSNOLE]

That’s you dude and you whine when the favor is returned. You should try actual dialog. Your dialog is like your science.

I'm not the one who was calling others names. That's you. Own it.

 

[1Hammers1]

The dems own this one. Just like abortion is used against Republicans. Every democrat suports men in women's sports. No escaping it every last one of you voted for it. You did !

 

[RicoSuave102954]

The president sees himself as national king, and every other American—including Maine Governor Janet Mills—as one of his quavering subjects.

By Jonathan Chait
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/02/trump-king-maine-governor/681799/


The Trump administration is enmeshed in a long and rapidly growing list of legal challenges to the novel powers it has claimed for itself. But to try to understand the situation in terms of the individual cases, and the legal questions they implicate, is to miss the forest for the trees. The larger picture is that Donald Trump refuses, or is simply unable, to grasp any distinction between the law and his own whims.

That conflation was on display once again today at a meeting of governors at the White House. As Trump lectured the audience on his executive order banning transgender girls and women from participating in girls’ and women’s sports, he paused to single out Maine Governor Janet Mills.

“Are you not going to comply with it?” he demanded of her. “I’m complying with state and federal laws,” she replied. To this, Trump shot back, “We are the federal law.”

It is entirely possible that, if the state of Maine challenges the executive order, Trump will prevail legally. But what is important about this exchange is not whose interpretation of Title IX and the Administrative Procedure Act has a better chance to win five votes on the Supreme Court. It is that Trump is treating the law as coterminous with his own desires.

Trump then threatened Mills with the prospect of stripping away federal funding for her state: “You better do it, because you’re not going to get any federal funding at all if you don’t.” Legally, it is possible for the federal government to deny states certain funding streams under certain conditions. But Trump cannot simply cut Maine off financially because the state chooses to challenge a federal policy. Distinctions like this, however, seem totally lost on the president, who sees himself as national king—note his use of the royal we—and every other American, including each of the 50 states, as one of his quavering subjects.

Jonathan Chait: Trump says the corrupt part out loud

Trump has grown ever more brazen about his belief that his activities are by definition legal, and activities he opposes by definition criminal. That belief is implied by a long, long list of statements and actions, stretching from his career in business, when he routinely treated laws (forbidding him from discriminating against Black tenants or committing tax fraud) as suggestions; to the final days of his presidency, when he attempted to overturn his election defeat; to his post-presidency, when he flagrantly disregarded requirements that he turn over classified documents. It is also implied by his habit of describing a long list of political opponents as criminals.

Trump recently summarized this belief by writing on X, “He who saves his Country does not violate any Law.” (The possibly apocryphal quote is commonly attributed to Napoleon Bonaparte, who was, famously, a dictator.) His statement to Mills is utterly consistent with this belief: Since Trump cannot violate the law, it follows that the law means whatever he says. He has progressed from demonstrating his disregard for the law to stating it as a doctrine.


Trump’s supporters have followed his lead. When the White House announced a spending freeze last month, Matthew J. Vaeth, acting director of Trump’s budget office, wrote, “Career and political appointees in the Executive Branch have a duty to align Federal spending and action with the will of the American people as expressed through Presidential priorities.” Of course, the Constitution does not say that the will of the people is expressed exclusively through the president. It divides legitimate authority between three branches of government, resting the spending authority in the hands of Congress.

Paula White, the newly appointed White House faith adviser, has gone further, once stating, “To say no to President Trump would be saying no to God.” Far from reassuring the American people that they continue to live in a democratic republic, Trump and the White House have lately leaned into the divine-right theme with a series of social-media posts depicting Trump as a king for overruling New York City’s congestion-pricing system.

David A. Graham: The world’s most powerful unelected bureaucrat

Last week, the Wall Street Journal editorial board, which has occasionally scolded Trump for his naughtiness, dismissed fears that the country is entering a constitutional crisis as “overwrought.” Trump, the editors insisted, was merely testing the bounds of his executive authority, in this case by destroying a series of federal programs and agencies authorized by Congress. It is true, as the Journal argues, that previous presidents have tested the boundaries of their authority. But there is a point at which the executive branch moves so far and so fast that the eventual promise of legal redress means little. If you fire all the employees of a department and cancel its contractors, they’ll go broke waiting for the Supreme Court to rule in their favor. Imagine a Democratic administration setting out to replace every white Evangelical church in America with EV-charging stations—even if they agreed to abide by the courts in the event of an adverse ruling, this wouldn’t offer much comfort.

But the larger dynamic is that Trump isn’t merely pushing to redefine the boundaries of the law or even the Constitution. He is rejecting the principle that the law constrains him at all. The existence of a constitutional crisis cannot be understood solely in terms of the discrete claims of the executive branch vis-à-vis the other two. A president who maintains that the law means whatever he wants it to mean is a constitutional crisis.

She's finished - just wait until the Federal funding stops in Maine.

 

[sabula]

She's finished - just wait until the Federal funding stops in Maine.

Hey Rico the sexual abuser/supporter is back showing his face. Very gutsy of you, knowing that every normal/nonsexual abuser person despises sexual abusers.

 

[Gimmered]

Are you saying every person is mentally ill who’s transgender?

Because the science doesn’t support that assertion.

There certainly is a lot of concurrent mental illness and neurodiverse conditions along with gender dysphoria.

 

[RicoSuave102954]

Hey Rico the sexual abuser/supporter is back showing his face. Very gutsy of you, knowing that every normal/nonsexual abuser person despises sexual abusers.

Speaking of sexual abusers are you still doing the little neighbor boys?

 

[Rifler]

I also don’t think it’s government’s role to sort this out

Federal government isn't "sorting" this out, states like Maine can do what they want, minus federal funds, their choice,.. No different than many other positions that have been taken by the fed over the years...

 

[Obviously Oblivious]

Federal government isn't "sorting" this out, states like Maine can do what they want, minus federal funds, their choice,.. No different than many other positions that have ben taken by the fed over the years...

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/keeping-men-out-of-womens-sports/

They’re not?

 

[cohawk]

Why is it so important to the people of Maine to have mentally I’ll men disguised as women competing in women’s sports?

Except they aren't mentally ill. It's kind of like you saying you are Christian when you are not.

I don't want men in women's sports but this isn't about that, so much for state rights.

 

[sabula]

Speaking of sexual abusers are you still doing the little neighbor boys?

Rico... LOVES him those sexual abusers. Trump, Epstein, Hegeseth... LOVE BUDDIES and enablers. You should be ashamed... I feel for your poor family members. So sad.

 

[sabula]

Speaking of sexual abusers are you still doing the little neighbor boys?

Hey rico, you got a double play support going on there. You support Bonespurs the confirmed sexual abuser, AND you support Bonespurs the guy that drools and fantasizes over other men's dongs. Man, Arnie must be embarrassed as hell up in heaven to think you and Bonespurs privately and PUBLICLY fantasizes about him. Creepy... but hey... you guys keep on sharing your 'war stories'. 🤮 So sad...

 

[RicoSuave102954]

Rico... LOVES him those sexual abusers. Trump, Epstein, Hegeseth... LOVE BUDDIES and enablers. You should be ashamed... I feel for your poor family members. So sad.

I feel for your neighborhood kids because you're still on the loose.

 

[soonerinlOUisiana]

Except they aren't mentally ill. It's kind of like you saying you are Christian when you are not.

I don't want men in women's sports but this isn't about that, so much for state rights.

A man thinking he’s a woman is mentally ill by any standard not polluted by leftists.

 

[DFSNOLE]

 

[fredjr82]

Back to full articles w/in a week?

Rule #6, right @Pinehawk ?

 

[fredjr82]

Cut off the nose to spite the face. Anything to not be on the same side of an issue as Trump.

No offense dude, but you realized like 6 months ago that putting money in something that could interest maybe better than keeping it in a gambling account. Nobody should take advice from you outside of maybe lawncare

 

[ft254]

Immigration went away. Transgender(?) is now the right-wing hot button issue.

What will Stupid TV launch for its next compelling attention getting topic that will guide our political agenda?

 

[Bro D]

So brave

 

[Finance85]

I can see why some people believe Trump thinks he's a king. The problem is, a lot of governors don't understand the strings that come with accepting federal money. The old adage about the person controlling the money holds true. Trump, to a large extent, controls the money. Congress has caused that problem over the last 60 years or so.

 

[ft254]

I can see why some people believe Trump thinks he's a king. The problem is, a lot of governors don't understand the strings that come with accepting federal money. The old adage about the person controlling the money holds true. Trump, to a large extent, controls the money. Congress has caused that problem over the last 60 years or so.

Begging your pardon.

— U.S. Constitution, Article I, section 9, clause 7For a more in-depth analysis, read the essay on the Power of the Purse. Congress—and in particular, the House of Representatives—is invested with the “power of the purse,” the ability to tax and spend public money for the national government.

The POTUS has no ability to collect or authority to disperse money.

 

[RicoSuave102954]

Begging your pardon.

— U.S. Constitution, Article I, section 9, clause 7For a more in-depth analysis, read the essay on the Power of the Purse. Congress—and in particular, the House of Representatives—is invested with the “power of the purse,” the ability to tax and spend public money for the national government.

The POTUS has no ability to collect or authority to disperse money.

You don't get it do you?

 

[BioHawk]

I can see why some people believe Trump thinks he's a king. The problem is, a lot of governors don't understand the strings that come with accepting federal money. The old adage about the person controlling the money holds true. Trump, to a large extent, controls the money. Congress has caused that problem over the last 60 years or so.

You have a staggering lack of understanding of the Constitution if you think that is true.

Now, I give you that the last 2 months this seems to be true as Republicans have effectively disbanded Congress of any role other than filing stupid bills to replace the Statue of Liberty with a golden bust of Trump (it'll happen, just wait).