The Right to Die In a Dignified Manner
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But he scored a touchdown in heaven! Thou shalt not something or other....
Woo hoo!!!!!!!
Unless I die by accident / massive stroke.....I'll be dying in Oregon. I'm choosing my time.
In a long, drawn out, painful way usually.
You're really showing your ass in this thread.
There's no way this is a serious post.
What's unserious about it?
Lots of older adults only make it to severe disability because they continue life extending meds/treatments after diagnosis.
If they stopped vaccines, blood pressure meds, colonoscopies, etc. they would die much faster.
That's my wheelhouse. I'm sure many other people die brutally tragic deaths.
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The older adults I see with dementia aren't in any pain.
When they are, morphine helps.
If this is your wheelhouse, you must be really bad at just about everything.What's unserious about it?
Lots of older adults only make it to severe disability because they continue life extending meds after age 75...
That's my wheelhouse. I'm sure many other people die brutally tragic deaths.
Stopping blood pressure meds, vaccines, etc to bring about a faster death is one of the dimmest things I've seen on this board. And stopping your chronic meds wouldn't bring about a peaceful death. Quite the opposite, most likely.
Oh really?
How many people make it to age 90 without taking vaccines, blood pressure meds, colonoscopies, etc. etc.?
How many oranges can you fit in your glove box? It's about as relevant.
Do you know who Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel is?
Here's an article relevant to the discussion. He's also been arguing against euthanasia/assisted suicide for 30+ years.
Ezekiel Emanuel: Why I want to die at 75
A medical ethicist challenges those who think a long life at any cost is the American way.
www.dallasnews.com
I completely understand someone that's in a brutal accident or suffering badly wanting to end their lives.
100%.
When I make a living will, I'm asking doctors to stop treatment.
Yes, you linked it before. I feel differently. As does every other doctor I know. This isn't for people who are in good health. It's for patients with terminal conditions who want to die with dignity on their own terms. Rather than drawn out and miserable.bDo you know who Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel is?
Here's an article relevant to the discussion. He's also been arguing against euthanasia/assisted suicide for 30+ years.
Ezekiel Emanuel: Why I want to die at 75
A medical ethicist challenges those who think a long life at any cost is the American way.www.dallasnews.com
Cancers of all varieties, infections of all varieties, heart failure, liver failure, kidney failure, dementia, progressive neurologic conditions like MS, polymyositis, myasthenia. Cerebral palsy. Strokes so bad it leaves the person completely dependent. Anoxic brain injuries, traumatic injuries.
The list is extensive.
As easy as that is to say, it's terrible when it happens. My buddy's dad had metastatic kidney cancer. Went to his spine in his neck so they radiated the tumor. That made his throat scar closed and he had difficulty eating. He was in pain constantly but still at home. When they discussed putting his feeding tube in that's when he decided to take his own life. He went down to the newly remodeled spare bedroom they had and shot himself with a .357. Surprisingly his wife didn't hear the gunshot. The cop who came said that was actually really common because of how much noise is in the city. After it happened my friend said the following:
It sucks he didn't let me say goodbye, but I can get over that. I understand why he did it. He wanted to go on his own terms. I'm really pissed about what he did to Mom. She had to find him that way. She will never unsee that.
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SIL has ALS. It is rapidly progressing. She went from a runner to a prisoner in a dying body in a few years. I cannot understand why we don’t allow folks an option to have a say in their exit from this earthly world.
Yeah. Those are rough. I know a 70 year old lady very well who has cerebral palsy. She's not physically suffering and I wouldn't recommend anyone put her to sleep.
That being said, couldn't a patient with those terminal illnesses stop all life extending treatments to pass away quicker?
I've known 20+ people with dementia and they live for years with it by getting vaccines, colonoscopies, blood pressure meds, etc., etc.
If they stopped those life extending treatments, they'd die quicker, I assume, no?
BrianNole777: Exists in the 21st century and has access to the sum of all human knowledge at his fingertips; chooses to live his life according to the moral musings of illiterate, nomadic goat farmers that roamed the middle eastern desert 3000 years ago.What's unserious about it?
Lots of older adults only make it to severe disability because they continue life extending meds/treatments after diagnosis.
If they stopped vaccines, blood pressure meds, colonoscopies, etc. they would die much faster.
That's my wheelhouse. I'm sure many other people die brutally tragic deaths.
Bad shit will happen to all of us eventually. My dad had a stroke at 88 and never recovered really and was gone in 4-5 months. I can’t imagine if he had lived 4-5 more years and then not only is that awful they take all your money as well, which is total BS. We work our whole life to save enough for retirement hopefully and leave some for our kids. If I have a stroke at 80 with 2 million still left in the bank I want the money to go to my wife and kids not 15K a month to a nursing home bleeding me dry. Let me have the Kvorkian.
Not quite, some of the best minds today are against euthanasia like Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel but if you want to be smart, live like Mother Teresa so you get an infinite reward when you stroke out in a few decades.
I thought you blocked me.Not quite, but if you want to be smart, live like Mother Teresa so you get an infinite reward when you stroke out in a few decades.
Physician-assisted suicide, or "medical aid in dying", is legal in eleven jurisdictions: California, Colorado, District of Columbia,[1] Hawaii, Montana, Maine,[2] New Jersey,[3] New Mexico, Oregon, Vermont, and Washington.Sure, anyone can off themselves anytime they want. But, the option to die in a dignified manner is often hotly debated.
Personally, I don’t understand why this isn’t available to everyone, everywhere.
LIMA, April 22 (Reuters) - A Peruvian woman suffering from a degenerative illness has died by euthanasia after a lengthy court battle ended in a landmark ruling allowing her to end her life with medical assistance, her lawyer said on Monday.
Ana Estrada, 47, had lived with a rare incurable condition called polymyositis, which causes muscle weakness, for the past three decades. She was bed-ridden and required a ventilator to breathe.
She died on Sunday, her lawyer Josefina Miro Quesada said on X.
Estrada, a psychologist, went to court in 2016 to fight for access to euthanasia, illegal in Peru. In 2022, the Latin American nation's Supreme Court confirmed a ruling that gave Estrada an exemption to end her life.
Ana Estrada, a euthanasia advocate who suffers from an incurable condition that atrophies her muscles and has left her breathing through a ventilator, lies in bed at her home in Lima, Peru... Purchase Licensing Rights, opens new tab Read more
"Ana has left us grateful to all the people who helped give her a voice, who were with her through this fight and who supported her decision unconditionally, with love," Miro Quesada said.
Euthanasia is illegal in most countries including Peru, a majority Roman Catholic nation. In Latin America, Colombia, Ecuador and Cuba have allowed the practice under certain conditions
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In an interview with Reuters after her court win, Estrada said she hoped her case would set legal precedent for the right to assisted suicide. Under Peruvian law, assisting someone's suicide and killing a terminally ill patient are punishable with prison time.
While the Supreme Court ruling did not legalize assisted dying, it exempted the doctor who supplied the drug to end Estrada's life from any punishment.
"There will come a time when I will no longer be able to write, or express myself," Estrada said at the time. "My body fails, but my mind and spirit are happy. I want the last moments of my life to be just like this
Assisted suicide in the United States - Wikipedia
Physician-assisted suicide, or "medical aid in dying", is legal in eleven jurisdictions: California, Colorado, District of Columbia,[1] Hawaii, Montana, Maine,[2] New Jersey,[3] New Mexico, Oregon, Vermont, and Washington.
Assisted suicide in the United States - Wikipedia
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Thanks Lute.
Religion. Man it forces people into pretty gross absolutes. Blech.
Everyone has a religion, bro.
It's sooo easy being an atheist or secular person. They're like mini gods.
They can do whatever they want, whenever they want without consequences except the law.
I have an issue with doctor assisted for 20s and teens w ptsd and depression getting assistance like 8n Holland.
Why isn't your god yourself as well? So you've vanquished your "self"? Why isn't it your self that led you to the bible and keeps you attached to it?
