To be frank, winning 7-8 games a year is a very low threshold in the West Division.
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You should always set the standard or the bar high, maybe even ridiculously high- we should and expect grateness as an Iowa fan I believe every year we should be playing in Indy..
Hahaha. Math is hard for some. Maybe you could try painting? I have heard guys on Oil rigs make good money, no math in that one for you.
A 7.8 average means they have won more than 7, on average, in the years in question. If you want to call that an average of 7, go for it.
O dear lord... you're serious.
A average of 7.8 means they average 7 wins. You cannot win .8 of a game. You have 7 wins until you have 8. 7.99 means you average 7 wins and are much much more likely to win 8 than 6.
(This helped some people the last time this came up)
If a coach averages 7.6 wins per 12 games, after 12 games how many have they actually won?
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No. It is an average. That means that some of the time they win more than 7.8, and some of the time they win less than 7.8. It does not mean anything else. We can each choose to interpret the date the way we want to.
Math aside, and excluding bowl wins, Iowa has won at least 8 games 8 times in the last 17 years, for whatever that is worth.
That's the nice thing about numbers they are pretty simple. I'm not going to go through basic statistics with you but even just a little bit of research might open your eyes. The 7 in the 7.8 or 7.01 or 7.99 is the most likely number to fall on. As that number gets away from 7.5 you can tell which of 6 or 8 is more likely. It's all good man.
I thought that's what I said. If you think that a program that wins 7.8 games on average is just as likely to win 6 as it is 8, that's fine. And,if you think a program that wins 7.8 games on average is just as likely to win 7 as it is 8, that's fine as well. Apparently, I'm not that good with numbers.
The above is the undeniable truth and quibbling over 8-4 or 7-5 only reinforces it.
You have just articulated my thoughts on the Iowa program for the last 10-12 years. The mentality of "We're Iowa, we're not sexy" has never been acceptable to me. We may not be the prettiest, but were pretty damn hot!
Kirk averaging only 4 losses per 12 games is really impressive.
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Should have been our hire after the 2014 season.
http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...patience-paying-mark-stoops-kentucky-wildcats
http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...patience-paying-mark-stoops-kentucky-wildcats
Wrong. You owe it to yourself to dig deeper. Record needs to be evaluated based on who you play
Expectations apply only to your own life and actions. Hopes and dreams apply to other people actions.
You deserve what you earn. If you are not in the program as a player you have no claim to what you deserve in terms of that team.
Wanting something is not the same as deserve.
Just curious.........Let's change the argument to how many losses that KF has averaged over his career during a 12 game season.......What's your answer to how many losses he would have in twelve games? 4 or 5?
We’re a good hire away from being national title contenders every year.
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So if we want to ignore 2 years of results and bowl games let's exclude games lost as double digit favorites, games in the western time zones and games where it rains. Will that get you to the numbers to support your position? As far as iowa12 goes he doesn't watch or support Iowa football so I am not sure why he thinks his opinion is valid.
Gotta bump this for the non-drunken non-troll. Still waiting for the master statistician to tell us how many losses that KF averages each year.
Ya, but you're pretty much never right....
Good to know you finally came out of hiding. Was worried you might have offed yourself.
Thanks for thinking of me
this portion I am doing from memory but if I remember correctly its something like when KF plays 11 regular season games(which happened occasionally early in his career) he loses 4.85 and when he plays 12 regular season games it is 5.1. Hope this helps. (To his credit he does average 7 wins during the 11 game schedules also.)
Thanks for thinking of me
Wrong again, troll. He has 89 regular season losses over 19 years. That comes out to 4.68 losses per year, so, the real question is.......since you can't get that 5th loss until you hit he number 5. (even 4.99 would not be able to be rounded, remember? This is using your rules) The question remains......Why do you consistently call him a 5 loss coach? Do you only follow your rules when they fit your narrative? Isn't he a 4 loss per year coach using "troll math"?
Not sure why you want to talk about 11 game seasons, it only happened in '99 his very first year.
Dude atleast look at the data before just spouting $hit. 2004 and '05 were both 11 game regular seasons off memory alone.
Ok. I'll give you that. My mistake. Doesn't change anything. Now answer the question as to why you insist on calling him a 5 loss coach when your own rules make it 4.
When KF plays a 12 game regular season schedule he averages 7 wins and 5 loses.
How is it 5 losses, that is the question. Your own rules of no rounding dictate that it is 4. We've heard you blather on for hours about how you can't round up. How do you justify this?
Jesus dude I'll go back through the numbers but I'm at lunch right now. If I remember correctly when Homer and I did this the last time in seasons where KF plays 12 regular season he averages 5.1 losses.
If you only count the seasons in which he played 12 regular season games, there are 15 of them and his record is 113-67 in those regular season games. That comes out to 4.46 losses per year. I'll be interested to see what data you come up with.
