The Tesla Semi is Dead!
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No. That's incorrect. They have weekly limits and an 11 hour limit within 14 hours. Still, 500 miles will be enough for many and a great leap forward if it is adopted.
Great questions! Thank you!
On your first question, about carbon and other emissions*
*IE. Cars and trucks that combust fuel also emit smog forming emissions, such as nitrogen oxide, non-methane organic gases, carbon monoxide, particulate matter, and formaldehyde. These emissions are usually trapped close to the ground and can form a brownish haze that pollutes our air, particularly over cities in the summertime.
Smog Vehicle Emissions | US EPA
Find out the differences between vehicle greenhouse gas emissions and smog emissions.
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E.g. Yes, manufacturing EV is⬆️CO2 than ICE, but it's recovered in 1.5 - 1.9 years, so ⬇️⬇️#CO2 over EV life.
E.V.s Start With a Bigger Carbon Footprint. But That Doesn’t Last.
The manufacturing and disposal of electric vehicles result in more greenhouse gases than nonelectric models, but that difference will eventually disappear altogether.
Why is this?
In short, the fuel refining process.
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On used batteries and battery recycling. One of the five co-founders of Tesla, JB Straubel, saw a future need for a EV battery recycling business. He left Tesla in 2017 and founded Redwood Materials, based in Nevada.
Redwood Materials, Inc. - Wikipedia
They have innovated and refined their processes. Check it out:
Thank you. In terms of the emissions "getting it out of the ground," he mostly just talks about the the added fuel emissions, but mining nickel would surely be more carbon intensive than drilling oil (unless they go with the pick axes) right? Is the advantage in the fact that you'll get a LOT more "mileage" out of an ounce of nickel than an ounce of oil?Great questions! Thank you!
On your first question, about carbon and other emissions*
*IE. Cars and trucks that combust fuel also emit smog forming emissions, such as nitrogen oxide, non-methane organic gases, carbon monoxide, particulate matter, and formaldehyde. These emissions are usually trapped close to the ground and can form a brownish haze that pollutes our air, particularly over cities in the summertime.
Smog Vehicle Emissions | US EPA
Find out the differences between vehicle greenhouse gas emissions and smog emissions.www.epa.gov
Answer:
E.g. Yes, manufacturing EV is⬆️CO2 than ICE, but it's recovered in 1.5 - 1.9 years, so ⬇️⬇️#CO2 over EV life.
E.V.s Start With a Bigger Carbon Footprint. But That Doesn’t Last.
The manufacturing and disposal of electric vehicles result in more greenhouse gases than nonelectric models, but that difference will eventually disappear altogether.www.nytimes.com
Why is this?
In short, the fuel refining process.
Love that bit about being able to recover 95% of battery material. 5% of material left to dispose of vs. smog I guess is the debate there?
This is all very fascinating/promising.
I'm all for it. Where I fall off the wagon is where they start mandating changes happen more quickly than the economy can realistically handle.
Is OP Elon or does he get paid by him? I've never seen such a ridiculous PR campaign on this board. Hope he's getting paid.
Please let us know what you care about or are passionate about so I can shit all over it and your posts on the topic. TIA prick
See what....'let you know.' You have to ask because I don't fanboy the shit out of my interests and come off as a paid PR person.
Good question, I’m not sure. Will do some research. Though I gather the Tesla Impact Report addresses this aspect of the supply chain. Just need to dig in and cross reference with outside sources. They say they have been focused on ethically sourced Nickel and Cobalt by working with local authorities in Africa for instance to ensure regulation with respect to humanitarian working conditions and worker safety. How carbon or emission intensive cobalt/nickel mining is I’m not really sure.
Here is some info I found:
Tesla explains its approach to sourcing lithium, nickel, and cobalt directly from mines in impressive detail
Tesla released interesting and rare details about its approach to sourcing lithium, nickel, and cobalt directly from mines instead of...
electrek.co
Tesla releases list of battery material suppliers, confirms long-term nickel deal with Vale
Tesla has released a list of direct battery material suppliers and confirmed that it has a long-term nickel deal with...
electrek.co
They also have been using new battery cell chemistries that do not use any nickel or cobalt at all. They are referred to as Lithium Iron Phosphate or LFP chemistry. This chemistry is now in ~50% of the products Tesla creates. These are primarily for standard range auto products and standalone battery cell / packs like Powerwall. Long range products still use Nickel Cobalt Aluminum Oxide chemistry.
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Question to Mr. Martin Daum from @DaimlerTruck whether he now confirms that @Tesla has changed the physics with the #Semi , after Pepsi states a range of up to 800km and consumption of 1.1kWh/km when fully loaded and thus less than the factory specification.
@LBoogie28 help me out what does less than factory specification mean?
Why did this guy hate on the Tesla Semi publicly in the first place you ask?
OH. THAT’S WHY!
BUSTED!
Question to Mr. Martin Daum from @DaimlerTruck whether he now confirms that @Tesla has changed the physics with the #Semi , after Pepsi states a range of up to 800km and consumption of 1.1kWh/km when fully loaded and thus less than the factory specification.
@LBoogie28 help me out what does less than factory specification mean?
Why did this guy hate on the Tesla Semi publicly in the first place you ask?
OH. THAT’S WHY!
BUSTED!
What does this have to do with me? Or is this your move when you get called out and runaway from other conversations/topics? Should I feel flattered I get to live rent free?
A 5 axle semi truck and trailer's gross weight is 80,000 pounds. I wonder if the DOT sent him a fine back in 2022!
Extra for EV trucks & NatGas trucks.
Weight Distribution for Battery Electric Vehicles - TruckScience
Validate your truck layouts against regulations for Canadian provincial legislation, including Ontario SPIF, Quebec and Quebec Thaw Period
truckscience.com
“Under US Federal regulations, and some states – for example Colorado – zero-emission vehicles qualify for a weight increase of 2,000lb. Zero-emission vehicles include Battery-Electric, CNG and LNG powered vehicles. This is good news for the Tesla Semi, among others.”
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Then I presume you are in favor of immediately ending all fossil fuel subsidies in every State and at the Federal level?
Fossil fuels take in Trillions of subsidies every year worldwide.
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