I kind of like it when the good guys have their own echo chambers!
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...tter_police_target_conservatives__129781.html
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...tter_police_target_conservatives__129781.html
Are you fishing or do you honestly support what Twitter is doing?
Not JSCOTT but I sure support what they're doing. They're a private sector business that's allowed to run their business as they sit fit. Remember the free market? It's no different then me being banned on Hawkeye Report. If TK chose to run his site that way, it will either ruin the site or it will survive. Somehow I think losing Robert Stacy McCain isn't going to hurt Twitter's following.
They're a private sector business that's allowed to run their business as they sit fit.
I hear Twitter and the Husker board share the same moderators.
I know it sucks that people can't be as obnoxious as they want when using a social platform that they don't own. But this isn't the first time we've seen this happen and I doubt its the last. McCain had his account disabled in the past for this type of behavior and it looks like he couldn't help himself.
Oh, really? What if they decided to exclude certain races, religions, genders, sexual orientations, etc., etc.? Can't refuse to make a gay cake but you can kick gays off your social network? I don't see how that can fly....
Not JSCOTT but I sure support what they're doing. They're a private sector business that's allowed to run their business as they sit fit. Remember the free market? It's no different then me being banned on Hawkeye Report. If TK chose to run his site that way, it will either ruin the site or it will survive. Somehow I think losing Robert Stacy McCain isn't going to hurt Twitter's following.
Can't refuse to make a gay cake but you can kick gays off your social network?
You could probably read their rules to see what they consider acceptable use of their platform. I'll bet you could find the rule that McCain broke on more than one occasion
Twitter Rules
So, it should be easy to point out how he broke those rules... but apparently not, according to the story.
I read Twitter every day. There are some crazy, offensive (offensive to someone) tweets daily. You could argue Deace gets harassed frequently.
I read Twitter every day
You could argue Deace gets harassed frequently.
I agree with you on having a choice. Deace chooses to take it in stride and even re-tweets his critics.Me too. Just read, never tweet (except to Morehouse or Dochterman)
It Deace truly feels this way he needs to take it up with Twitter. They'll probably launch an investigation with their newly formed board of trustees and determine next steps. This is no different from every other privately owned social media site. I can be banned from Reddit, HROT, Twitter, Instagram, etc, etc, etc. It doesn't matter if I agree with their rules or not. You can either chose to boycott that platform or understand that they make the rules in which they are allowed to enforce.
Sometimes when you think you are winning it is because you can't see what you may be losing.I kind of like it when the good guys have their own echo chambers!
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...tter_police_target_conservatives__129781.html
Sometimes when you think you are winning it is because you can't see what you may be losing.
I wouldn't have a problem with it if the CEO didn't state: "Twitter stands for freedom of expression, speaking truth to power, and empowering dialogue. That starts with safety."
What was the harassment?Harassment is a positive somehow?
This action proves his statement to be a lie. Of course libs support this. They support any actions(no matter how awful) that suppresses the opposition's speechI wouldn't have a problem with it if the CEO didn't state: "Twitter stands for freedom of expression, speaking truth to power, and empowering dialogue. That starts with safety."
If it stood for freedom of expression, they wouldn't delete accounts of people who disagree with their council members. If they just said "Only express views that agree with liberals or we'll delete you" then it would be fine. Just like the husker board does as they clearly state: "If we think you're saying negative things about Nebraska, we'll ban you." That's they're choice, and it's honest.
What was the harassment?
Was it something very hurtful or was it a view that the Trust and Security Council didn't agree with.
Did a harassed party complain or did the TSC move on their own?
Why was the hashtag that said this was wrong closed? Why not just suspend all the people who supported McCain's thoughts?
You are right that this is a private company and can kick users off at will.
My point is you may not want to celebrate this as victory because if both sides retreat to their respective sites and close off the other side because their feelings are hurt then IMHO this is not a good thing. I come on this site for the diversity of opinions and thoughts and that is a good thing even when we disagree.
This action proves his statement to be a lie. Of course libs support this. They support any actions(no matter how awful) that suppresses the opposition's speech
You would be wrong. I have come out pretty consistently with letting people have their say, even Michael Moore.Twitter isn't saying which is their right.
Again, Twitter isn't saying. It just indicated that McCain broke a rule that they consider "suspend worthy" not only once, but twice.
All speculation on my part, but he'd been warned in the past, was suspended, corrected his behavior, and then started harassing again. I assume he was probably on Twitter's radar for his past behavior.
Not sure what you're asking here. If you're indicating that #GamerGate is somehow "shutdown" I suggest you head over to Twitter and look for yourself. It's most recent post was 30 mins ago.
This should have really been your only response when replying to me.
I can agree with that. Its most certainly a slippery slope and Twitter risks losing business because of it. But I'll bet dollars to donuts if it was Michael Moore who was suspended for going after a religious group it would mean a lot less to you. I would agree with Twitter for banning Moore, ESPECIALLY if this wasn't his first offense (McCain was told twice to knock his shit off).
I can be banned from the Nebraska board for no reason at all. As many people can attest from this board. I'm certainly glad that TK doesn't run our board that way. If he did, I'd have some decisions to make about supporting or boycotting Hawkeye Report. You also have a decision. I suggest you use it to voice your dissatisfaction.
You would be wrong. I have come out pretty consistently with letting people have their say, even Michael Moore.
We gain nothing by banning people it is hard to argue with people you agree with.
Given the number of people they have banned it appears that the Nebraska and PSU boards have their own Trust and Security Council which their members are very supportive of.
You're absolutely right, but I have a sneaking suspicion you would have a problem with them doing this to a particular set of other people.Not JSCOTT but I sure support what they're doing. They're a private sector business that's allowed to run their business as they sit fit. Remember the free market? It's no different then me being banned on Hawkeye Report. If TK chose to run his site that way, it will either ruin the site or it will survive. Somehow I think losing Robert Stacy McCain isn't going to hurt Twitter's following.
Twitter won't miss me because I have never been on there so in that statement you are right. I have never heard of this McCain until this came up and he may be just as bad as you believe him to be or he may have been shutdown because he disagree with members on the TSC we don't know. What if his posts came down to "I think feminist are stupid" - is that enough harassment for you to ban someone?I'm not sure why you have such a hard time understanding this. It's not like McCain was having reasonable conversations with people he disagreed with. His account was suspended for harassment previously, it was re-instated, he then exhibited the same behavior as in the past, and his account was suspended permanently. If you don't like how Twitter runs their business than do use them. I doubt anyone will miss you or McCain.