The U.S. Air Force Just Admitted The F-35 Stealth Fighter Has Failed
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What a waste.
We need to just stick with what we have and forget all the stealth stuff. Any war where it this level of tech would be necessary will be nuclear anyway.
We need to just stick with what we have and forget all the stealth stuff. Any war where it this level of tech would be necessary will be nuclear anyway.
The US Air Force has built and flown a mysterious full-scale prototype of its future fighter jet
Does this give the Next Generation Air Dominance program more momentum, or does it open it up to more scrutiny?
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Unless it's aliens.
The future is unmanned fighters. Military loves fighting the last war, though.
“A clean sheet design” because the last one didn’t work at:
$100 million per plane.
$400 billion on the program to date.
$100 million per plane.
$400 billion on the program to date.
We should convert much of the military industrial complex into the universal healthcare industrial complex.
Get rid of expensive equipment and train all military staff in JEDI mind trick.
6th Generation planes have been on the pipeline for a while. China and Russia pretty much skipped 5th gen altogether. 6th Gen will focus on unmanned drones, maybe have one mother plane and and bunch of drones to run the missions.
That's not to excuse the F-35 though. That program should have been stopped in 2005 at the latest when it was clear you couldn't make one plane do a million different things based on which service wanted the plane.
That's not to excuse the F-35 though. That program should have been stopped in 2005 at the latest when it was clear you couldn't make one plane do a million different things based on which service wanted the plane.
This is what happens when you start out to design a new hammer and your future customers require that it provide the functionality of every tool in the box,.. The finished product can do many things, but it's terribly expensive and it doesn't do any of those things very well...
There needs to be panel of non-politicians, non-contractors, non military that is paid well to evaluate these projects
Now do the one with Zumwalt’s gun that doesn’t have any ammunition. The military is a money pit.
That's funny.
I look at boondoggles like the F-35 project and marvel that people want to put the government in charge of healthcare...
We were supposed to have learned that with McNamara and the F-111.
Yeah, it's not like every other western nation figured it out....
Bingo. The need to keep a human pilot alive & conscious is a real engineering constraint at this point.
The problem is we have 10x military expenditures then the other so called super powers. So we waste. And yes this is one of the big reasons we can't even have universal health care.
Not really.
Russia keeps improving their SAMs and selling them to places that neocons want to bomb.
Cyber attacks that cripple economies, utilities, and lifestyle is the new war.
only shut countries will be conventional.
conventional war in United States is little more than the first 5 minutes of the news.
if my cell phone quits working for 5 minutes , I might surrender.
only shut countries will be conventional.
conventional war in United States is little more than the first 5 minutes of the news.
if my cell phone quits working for 5 minutes , I might surrender.
Unmanned has awesome potential, as long as you can keep your comms up.
Sadly, we've been chasing oxygen supply bugs in both the F-22 and F-35, and I don't even think that was your point (assumed you meant the entire cockpit, and g-limits of humans).
Why doesn't CA 'figure it out', since they have an economy that dwarfs most of those western nations?
What are they waiting for?
Seems we have to keep sending money to the feds to help out red states.
All the more reason to secede and show how it's done.
"Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
Get on with it, I say, and stop letting the backward parts of the U.S. hold you down.
All of that, plus humans just take up a lot of physical space (and in a specific orientation), in exchange for their reduced processing power.
Putting all this money into this project is like investing in making VCR tapes better. Which is ironic because most of the places we bomb are probably still using VCRs.
Do you actually think that's a conceivable option? Or is it similar to your libertarian fantasy land stuff that also isn't reflective of reality?
Most people are happy with Medicare (80% on last survey I saw). So keep your government hands off it.
This BS is too expensive as is universal health care? This is one of those cases where you CAN have it both ways!
Also, I don't trust the government to do anything right.
Also, I don't trust the government to do anything right.
Why is it not?
Czech Republic and the Slovakian Republic decided to separate and worked out the means to do so.
Look at the last 100 years of the British Empire.
It wasn't until the Statute of Westminster, in 1931, that Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc. were put on a path to independence.
Canada didn't even finalize its independence and own Constitution until 1982.
Compare the nations on the globe in 1982 to today, and you'll find a different map.
It just gets fixed in some people's heads that change doesn't occur.
How is any of that relevant to a state seceding from the United States?
If I'm interpreting your reply correctly, you do think secession is conceivable. Do you think Belem has the ability to get on with it?
Might be easier if you start with what about references to states seceding peacefully elsewhere in the world confuses you.
Not merely 'conceivable'. It happens. There are examples to look at.
Does he have the ability to convince others that CA would be better off not sending money to 'red states' and instituting their own government run healthcare? Sure, he has a voice.
I'm not sure what is holding them back from implementing it now, but if it's the federal government they should unshackle themselves 'to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.'
I would like to see more diffusion of power, and competition between the States, and less consolidation and efforts to implement 'universal' programs. For example, even if you felt the unemployment generated by the minimum wage was 'worth it', shouldn't you take into account that the cost of living in Hawaii and Mississippi aren't the same?
If CA does this right maybe it will stop being a place Americans flee for other States.
Thanks for answering my question. It is similar to your other libertarian, in theory, hypothetical, fantasy land stuff.
You would like to see that stuff. Get to it!
The F-35 project should be in textbooks as the definition of the sunk cost fallacy. We've already spent so much money on this that we can't afford for it to fail, so throw more at it.
1.7 trillion dollars so far. Could have bought a lot of stuff for that.
1.7 trillion dollars so far. Could have bought a lot of stuff for that.
On the other hand, gives you a sense for how enormous these COVID relief packages are.
