Whoever wins that garbage conference would finish 5th in the big 10 or sec. Change my mind.
There is not a playoff worthy team in the big 12
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Have to agree with you on this one
Doesn’t matter, one team will get the glory of going.
Most of the big ten and SEC will never sniff the playoff but will make a lot of money.
That’s the gig now.
Most of the big ten and SEC will never sniff the playoff but will make a lot of money.
That’s the gig now.
What?? The expanded playoff solved everything. How can there be so much arguing and conflicts? As long as Alabama and Georgia get in it's all ok. Just wait and see.
Looks like ISU can sell recruits on being a perennial playoff contender now. Iowa… not.
The Big 12 Champion gets in. It doesn't matter if they are "worthy", which is how it should be.
The rest need to be worthy to get in. It will depend on the polls, but it's not looking good for anyone else getting in.
The rest need to be worthy to get in. It will depend on the polls, but it's not looking good for anyone else getting in.
Kansas is clearly the best team in the league right now and it ain’t close. They lost a couple close ones early. It is clear that the top 5 or 6 in the Big 12 would be lower middle of the pack in the SEC and middle of the pack in the BIG.
Nope. Should be the 12 best teams, not an AQ from a garbage conference getting in.
The SEC and B1G sold out agreeing to the conference champions in the CFP. We got snookered by the rubes. Agreed, Big 12 has no business this year being in the discussion, especially if they draw a bye.
How soon we all forget the Big XII North…oof
Is there in the ACC? And how many really anywhere? 8…?!
Let them have a team but get rid of giving conference champions an automatic bye
Iowa State’s best win, it’s only ranked win, is against a middle of the pack BIG team in Iowa.
Iowa State’s best win, it’s only ranked win, is against a middle of the pack BIG team in Iowa.
If you’re talking about a second Big XII getting an at-large bid, “not looking good” is like describing the Gaza Strip as “not a top ten vacation destination.”
BIG should only have 2 teams in. Indiana got an Iowa schedule this year with the usual thumping once they played a good team. Penn St needed a trick play to survive the the mighty gophers! BIG is a classic top heavy conference - 2 good teams, a few mediocre teams and the rest are just terrible.
I said this in another thread, but I compare it to classes in Iowa high school football. There has to be a 1A or 2A state champion (Big 12), and they earned it, but if they went against the top dogs in 5A (SEC or B1G), they’d get steamrolled. You’ll notice this discrepancy in talent more and more over the next few year as the majority of top recruits choose to play in the more competitive and wealthier SEC and B1G. Sure, Big 12 schools will get good players, but i see it becoming more like the old MAC or Mountain West conferences.
Disagree. Champions get in, just like it has been in basketball for as long as I can remember. It happens a lot in the NFL too - division winners get in no matter what.
I totally understand defending the Big 12. Everyone has reasons to defend their conference. Just my opinion but I also don't think any Big 12 team could compete in the Big Ten and finish top 5. I don't think any team is consistent enough in the conference. Iowa is only in there right now because of how we played at home and lost to two bottom feeders... but that is what happens when you are inconsistent, like us.
Pros and cons for teams like Iowa being in a conference like the Big Ten versus the big 12. Big 12 certainly easier conference to win, but conference championship is the only way to reach the CFP. Big Ten will always have at least three teams in the CFP, usually four and maybe even sometimes five. Add to the fact that Iowa gets to play some of the country’s premier programs and in some of the largest stadiums in the country that are packed. I prefer that to playing in the glorified MAC.
You're not wrong. Don't worry, the playoffs won't be taking teams from anywhere but the B1G or SEC by 2027-30 or so because, well, they either won't exist any longer, can't compete fairly with paltry budgets, or they will be relegated to a lower division not in current FBS. Did I mention the committee that is in charge of the playoffs? It's essentially the B1G and SEC. The B1G allows the B12 to currently have an opportunity to get in. It won't allow this in a few years. That's a fact. The B1G is in complete charge of college football with the SEC a distant second.
The best hope for the current B12 teams that don't get into the modern version of D-1 football is for a promotion/relegation system. Maybe that'll happen. Recent history in the U.S. says no though.
So yes, right now it's frustrating but they won't be able to compete with athletic departments making 500+ million dollars per year that have to legally spend their money on athletics solely each year as well. Iowa, and most of the B1G will be making this by 2027 as compared to the 100-120 million or so ISU will be. How do they compete when any program can pay Matt Campbell 4-6 times what they do without even having to worry about it. Their TV deals won't get better in the B12 but ours will, by a lot! Especially when Notre Dame is in the conference.
No, I'm absolutely not envious of their position at all. Getting to the playoffs doesn't help them get into the SEC because they won't do it consistently regardless. Their fans won't be so happy in 3-5 years and I do feel bad for those teams and their fans honestly. It's unfortunate really. It's not their fault this is happening. It's none of ours. ISU, as are all the teams left behind in the B12/ACC, are just trying to make the best of a bad situation so good for them but it'll be short lived. The next media deal is right around the corner.
It's hard to envision ISU winning enough in such a short period of time to be valuable enough for the SEC to invite but maybe I'm wrong, who knows. It's their only chance. The B1G has no reason to invite them which only hurts Iowa from a business sense.
That program, like their contemporaries, are literally playing for their existence right now. That's just a reality any way you shape it.
Sorry for the rant.
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The winner of the Big 12 should have to play the winner of the ACC to get a playoff spot. 4 big ten 4 sec 4 at large is what it should be
If there’s any more power shift - I.e. Florida St, Miami and Clemson leaving the ACC for the SEC/B1G, then we would see a change like that shortly after. I could see something like 4 B1G and 4 SEC automatically, 2 next highest ranked conference champions (ACC, Big 12, PAC-12, etc) with highest ranked getting a bye), and 2 other at-large, which would almost always be ND and a 5th B1G/ACC. I would also stipuate that the 4th bye team would have to be a conference championship game qualifier (a team should not benefit from not having to play in the CCG).
