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There is not a playoff worthy team in the big 12

Listening to Sirius XM college sports Fullride show I think the guys are Chris Childs (terrible takes) and Rick Nueheisel is decent.

Rick said that Big 12 may miss out IF Boise and Tulane win their conference titles and finish higher in the final standings. The reason is because only the top 5 highest ranked conference champs are guaranteed spots in the playoffs. B1G, SEC, ACC, MW and....? Big 12 or AAC?

If that's the case then its possible. isu, Asu, Byu and Colorado all lose then whoever wins the big 12 title game could be behind Tulane in the final standings.
Tulane plays a quality Memphis team and then a quality Army team int he AAC champ game.

Is this true or did they have it wrong?
This is correct. The top five rated conference champions get the automatic bid.
 
Rick said that Big 12 may miss out IF Boise and Tulane win their conference titles and finish higher in the final standings. The reason is because only the top 5 highest ranked conference champs are guaranteed spots in the playoffs. B1G, SEC, ACC, MW and....? Big 12 or AAC?

If that's the case then its possible. isu, Asu, Byu and Colorado all lose then whoever wins the big 12 title game could be behind Tulane in the final standings.
Tulane plays a quality Memphis team and then a quality Army team int he AAC champ game.

Is this true or did they have it wrong?

That is accurate, if it were to play out like that, although highly unlikely.
Having a spot for the B12 champ is necessary. It's part of what keeps buy in among all involved. Getting a bye will likely go away at some point.

The Big 12 getting a bye will go away this year if Boise wins out. Boise will take a bye and the ACC winner will take the other. Hopefully Tulane can take the last spot.
 
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That is accurate, if it were to play out like that, although highly unlikely.


The Big 12 getting a bye will go away this year if Boise wins out. Boise will take a bye and the ACC winner will take the other. Hopefully Tulane can take the last spot.
I think BYU is the only Big 12 champ that would get the #4 seed over 12-1 Boise State, based on win over SMU, the only high-quality win in the entire conference. Boise State has only 1 loss by 3 points to Oregon and has the country’s premier player; very few people could name one player on BYU, ASU or ISU; the committee people know this.
 
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The Big 12 Champion gets in. It doesn't matter if they are "worthy", which is how it should be.

The rest need to be worthy to get in. It will depend on the polls, but it's not looking good for anyone else getting in.
Yeah the idea that a committee is going to perfectly pick the "best" teams instead of letting conference champions move on to the playoffs is - well, it's a retarded idea. Every other sport and football league in the world can figure that shit out, but we always have these - well, retarded people - arguing that you can't do it for (formerly) D1 football.

Why?
 
Like so many other conferences, the current makeup of the Big12 is such a change from what most of us are familiar with. They are the leftover conference. I would almost feel bad for them, but the the Clone fans show up here and make fools out of themselves, so I'll get over it
 
1) Don’t lump B1G into SEC. That’s a a joke.
2) B12 top four would fare well in B1G.
3) if your point is that Iowa would win the B12, that’s a joke, too.
4) OSU and Oregon would each have three losses vs an SEC schedule
Not if they had Texas’s schedule.
 
Like so many other conferences, the current makeup of the Big12 is such a change from what most of us are familiar with. They are the leftover conference. I would almost feel bad for them, but the the Clone fans show up here and make fools out of themselves, so I'll get over it
Why?

Should people in the big ten feel proud they make a lot of money ( the schools that have zero shot at playoff )?

Big XII will have a wide open path to playoff every year. I would rather have that vs a nicely funded women’s crew team.
 
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Why?

Should people in the big ten feel proud they make a lot of money ( the schools that have zero shot at playoff )?

Big XII will have a wide open path to playoff every year. I would rather have that vs a nicely funded women’s crew team.
This is what I find so funny. There’s tons of under the radar players that won’t end up at SEC powers or Ohio ST or Oregon. So what good is all this revenue that’s going to the schools like Minny or Wisconsin or even Iowa? Is it helping us or them recruit better? Because it doesn’t look like it. NIL is king. Who gives a shit about all this so called money? What is Iowa doing with it? I keep hearing from some of you that all these schools might as well just give up. Guess what? Nobody is scared of 3/4 of the Big Ten and their TV contracts.
 
2) B12 top four would fare well in B1G
If by “fare well” you mean compete for 5th-12th place, that’s fair.

3) if your point is that Iowa would win the B12, that’s a joke, too.
I’m not much for discussing fantasy worlds, but although Iowa wouldn’t be an overwhelming favorite in the Big 12, it doesn’t make sense that their winning it would be a joke; there are zero high-quality teams in that conference and as I type this there are 9 teams still alive that could win it, none having clearly superior teams compared to Iowa.
1) Don’t lump B1G into SEC. That’s a a joke.
4) OSU and Oregon would each have three losses vs an SEC schedule
Again, making stuff up is fun, but these arguments are both based on preexisting bias. I doubt any team could get through a typical SEC schedule unscathed, but your “three losses” statement is a bigger joke than anything you’re accusing others of.
 
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I think BYU is the only Big 12 champ that would get the #4 seed over 12-1 Boise State, based on win over SMU, the only high-quality win in the entire conference. Boise State has only 1 loss by 3 points to Oregon and has the country’s premier player; very few people could name one player on BYU, ASU or ISU; the committee people know this.
Teams get in based on their wins and losses...not the personalities on their team. "We have a star player" is not an argument to get a playoff bye or bid. Bowl selection sure...but not a legitimate playoff.

BYU and Colorado both had pretty good paths but they choked. All I know is if ISU sneaks in I'm gonna vomit.
 
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BYU and Colorado both had pretty good paths but they choked. All I know is if ISU sneaks in I'm gonna vomit.
You and KF both. His boxers would get a lot tighter knowing that ISU had won a bcs major bowl (Fiesta) since him and earned a CFP berth before him and has skill players QB (Purdy) and RB (Montgomery) having highly productive and visible careers in the NFL while KF not so much.
 
Thnx. Made me laugh. FIFY. There's a reason why OUT both left the league and also why Stanford, Berkley and some others thumbed their nose at the thought of joining the B12. No name brands and no academic jugernauts left. KU finally got off it's arse and is actually doing something about it's historically irrelevant FB program b/c they want in with the P2. (They will get in, btw, but primarily b/c of their BB program). Big 12 goin' the way of the Big East. (basketball league)

Ugh, Stanford and Cal weren’t invited and they are currently earning zero TV dollars as members of the ACC.
 
Teams get in based on their wins and losses...not the personalities on their team. "We have a star player" is not an argument to get a playoff bye or bid. Bowl selection sure...but not a legitimate playoff.
Yeah, right. If the CFP committee has proven anything, it’s that brand recognition and star power influence them greatly.
 
Why?

Should people in the big ten feel proud they make a lot of money ( the schools that have zero shot at playoff )?

Big XII will have a wide open path to playoff every year. I would rather have that vs a nicely funded women’s crew team.

Wide open path? The Big 12 is one upset away from being left out of the playoffs all together.

At most (in most years) one Big 12 team will make the playoffs as it stands now. 6% of their conf will be playoff bound. Compared that to the B1G where four teams will likely go more often than not, or 22% of the teams. I’d take my chances in the B1G.
 
BIG should only have 2 teams in. Indiana got an Iowa schedule this year with the usual thumping once they played a good team. Penn St needed a trick play to survive the the mighty gophers! BIG is a classic top heavy conference - 2 good teams, a few mediocre teams and the rest are just terrible.
as opposed to the big 12 which is made up of mediocre and terrible teams
 
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