The CC effect gave a boost to recruitment and ticket sales for at least a few years. But if they continue to be lower half of B1G I don’t expect sellouts to continue.
"They don't have the resources here. Watch what you wish for."--Tom Izzo
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The CC effect gave a boost to recruitment and ticket sales for at least a few years. But if they continue to be lower half of B1G I don’t expect sellouts to continue.
Hopefully it does. But the big NIL contracts are going to football. Gronowski is getting $1.3M this year, as one example.
But Iowa couldn't spend their revenue on NIL payments to players.
MSU has a sugar daddy making NIL payments to players. So does Iowa State.
Players aren't giving up their NIL compensation when revenue sharing comes later this year. They will just get richer.
Unfortunately for Fran he’s a victim to timing of NIL ironically spearheaded by one of his former players JBo. If NIL took off during any point of Garza era you can guarantee Iowa is getting more support with NIL especially if his Sr year didn’t happen during a pandemic. Games would’ve been sold out like womens last year. 2nd thing hurting Fran is the phenomenon of his future daughter in law. Iowa women’s coming off the pinnacle years of their programs history. Again pre Clark era and NIL around no way womens team getting $ they are now and lot less chance of getting $ for a lucey Olson type of player.
Again sometimes life comes down to timing and for Fran with NIL it was not kind to him.
Again sometimes life comes down to timing and for Fran with NIL it was not kind to him.
IOWA likely will be following the model that follows, which is paying its MBB players a TOTAL of $3.6M/year in revenue sharing that is to come.
That could be $276,923 each year for each of the 13 scholarship players.
Players are making MUCH more than this amount in NIL.
They don’t have the resources here. Translation: you’re never going to have a great basketball program. Be happy with above average.
Coaches ready to move up
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With a lot of big programs opening this coaching cycle, who are the next big coaching stars to get the chance?
Texas Tech has a lot of money, is this consistent with other non P2 conferences?
Seems pretty clear that revenue sharing should give Iowa an advantage against other non P2 conferences.
The following schools are ahead of Iowa in KenPom, probably due to their NIL and resource advantage over Iowa. Coaching has no impact I guess, just NIL funds. Just not far to judge Fran against these schools, just don't have the resources
St. John's
Saint Mary's
VCU
Mississippi St.
UC San Diego
New Mexico
Xavier
Boise St.
San Diego St.
Memphis
Cincinnati
Santa Clara
Colorado St.
Utah St.
McNeese
Pittsburgh
Drake
North Texas
San Francisco
UC Irvine
Liberty
Saint Joseph's
In the same area as Iowa
Yale
Nevada
Dayton
Oregon St.
Georgetown
Lipscomb
George Mason
High Point
Well, first of all, that would be $3.6M/year more money to throw at players than Iowa and its supporters currently have.
Second, it's disingenuous to assume the money would be divided evenly amongst 13 players. The top players would get more, and the lesser players would get less.
If Iowa uses a similar breakdown with their revenue sharing, that increases their "war chest" by $3.6 million. Much more than they currently have available through NIL.
How could this not make a difference?
I am not assuming anything when it comes to splitting the revenue sharing amongst the 13 scholarship players. That's why I very clearly wrote this: "That could be $276,923 each year for each of the 13 scholarship players." And then you, ironically, assume how it will be split. Neither you nor I know.
Why revenue sharing won't make much difference for top players: those players will still command their NIL income, which Iowa doesn't have to offer at the moment; revenue sharing is just adding to their total income.
Let me explain my point in another way.
What is the current total NIL allotment for Iowa men's basketball? Have those numbers been made public by the collective groups and individuals that have provided NIL compensation to the players? If someone knows, please indicate it in this thread.
Until that number is revealed, I'll make an assumption: $1 million total NIL for men's basketball including SWARM and other collectives, advertising compensation, and any individuals providing NIL for other specific purposes.
$3.6 million (if the athletic department chooses this amount) in revenue sharing increases the kitty by 360%. That is a huge increase in potential compensation, and there would be no NIL strings attached to that increased compensation. The NIL component of total compensation becomes "icing on the cake." The meat of the money is from revenue sharing.
Is that amount enough to pay for the highest-priced players in America? Probably not, but it definitely allows for upgrades (price-wise, anyway).
Color me *very* skeptical revenue sharing is going to help our BB situation at all. It’s a rising tide that’ll lift all boats. The big programs will just keep throwing multiples of Iowa’s post-sharing NIL at talent, and we’ll continue losing the bidding war like the beta cucks we are.
That's how I see it. If everyone benefits equally from revenue sharing, that means it's a net push. It doesn't benefit Iowa more than it does anyone else.
Sure it does, area all D1 schools going to spend $3-$4 million on basketball? It might not help against other Big 10 and SEC schools, but, it should help against all the other conferences. There are more schools to compete against in college basketball, revenue sharing should be a big boost for P2 conference schools
Indiana pays their center roughly Iowa's total NIL.
The blue bloods of the B10 will double their payouts.
Honestly, WTF does it matter if we still can’t compete in conference or when it matters in postseason? That’s exactly what people are bitching about on here, and rev sharing ain’t gonna change a damn thing. No offense, but your post is more beta cuck talk.
So if it doesn't help against B10 schools like you stated Iowa still finishes out of the B10 tournament.
The part in bold is exactly the point IMO. Iowa needs to move up in the pecking order among Big 10 schools, yes?
Iowa can pretty much already out-recruit the Austin Peay type schools.
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We don't have resources and we are not competitive, so we should keep our coach and continue to not have resources and not be competitive. Sound logic out of Izzo.
If Iowa NIL is 1 million, and our average Big Ten competitor is 2.5 million, we have 40% the funds they do.
If Iowa has 1 million in NIL plus 3.6 million in revenue sharing, that totals 4.6 million. If our average Big Ten competitor has 2.5 million in NIL plus 3.6 million in revenue sharing, that totals 6.1 million. At that point, we have 75.4% the funds they do. Not equal, but much closer. Therefore, it could help.
I don't give two shits about what Tom Izzo thinks is best for the Iowa program
Looking at it that way.. Yes, maybe it could be of some help. Hopefully an excellent coach could help to overcome the rest of it by coaching up what he has to work with personnel-wise.
There's always that guy. Congrats 👏
Did anybody say that? Post the quote if they did.
Be prepared to be underwhelmed by the new hire. Also be prepared if the new hire is not one of the top 2-3 hot upcoming coaches.
The portal opens March 24th and the best ones go first. If Fran is fired and Drake is still in the tournament, Iowa could have no head coach to recruit.
Msybe Indiana has already made a back room deal with a current coach.
Beth better have the cash too!
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My brother live in Wisconsin and an insider to badger program told him that Louisville paid Chucky Hepburn a million ( he's averaging 19 pts and they are making the NCAA tourny)
And Kansas paid AJ Storr 700k( he off the bench scoring 5-6 pts).
Wis- could not match but grabbed tonje and are better than either of those teams
We need a new-era coach who is good x & o guy that is part sleuth, part sales& marketing guy.
Fran ain't it.
And Kansas paid AJ Storr 700k( he off the bench scoring 5-6 pts).
Wis- could not match but grabbed tonje and are better than either of those teams
We need a new-era coach who is good x & o guy that is part sleuth, part sales& marketing guy.
Fran ain't it.
That's what some don't understand. NIL is NOT going away. Revenue sharing will simply be more income for the "student athletes"
I guess that is why they seem to be an obvious choice to make it to the final four.
That money is already earmarked to pay the players……every school will be doing this. It appears that NIL will still play a part in getting other players.
What does Nicholas know? 
full text of tweet:
Hey Chris. Nicholas Baer here.
I know your shtick is to malign the program for engagement, but this is disingenuous even for you.
- All-time winningest coach in program history
- Took Iowa from a bottom dweller to perennial top half B1G finishes & BTT title
- Developed NPOY and a catalogue of all B1G players while being at a consistent recruiting/resource deficit
Grading this era as a C+ is recency bias and flat out wrong.
full text of tweet:
Hey Chris. Nicholas Baer here.
I know your shtick is to malign the program for engagement, but this is disingenuous even for you.
- All-time winningest coach in program history
- Took Iowa from a bottom dweller to perennial top half B1G finishes & BTT title
- Developed NPOY and a catalogue of all B1G players while being at a consistent recruiting/resource deficit
Grading this era as a C+ is recency bias and flat out wrong.
I hear that said over and over but haven't seen the figures. What did Iowa spend on NIL this year? What did the other schools spend? I ask as you said it was well known.
I was watching a Butler game and analyst said that the 2025 recruiting class was butler's best in program history.
Guess NIL is a big factor,huh?
