"They don't have the resources here. Watch what you wish for."--Tom Izzo

[TampaHawkfan]

I hear that said over and over but haven't seen the figures. What did Iowa spend on NIL this year? What did the other schools spend? I ask as you said it was well known.

I wish there was some place you could look to see where this information is publicly available. Or is there? I just want a little transparency on where all of this cash is going. I feel like all we have right now is the word of some people on message boards, and so on.

How much is coming in? How are NIL funds allocated across sports? Who is getting paid and how much?

 

[Herky T Hawk]

The NIL problem is really easy to understand. People look at NIL donations as an investment of their money and expect a return on that investment in the form of wins and postseason success.

Fran had a NPOY, 2 1st round NBA picks, and a 2nd round pick all on the same team. Earlier in his career here he had 2 2nd round NBA picks and a UDFA that played parts of a few seasons in the NBA on the same team. He ended up with a grand total of 3 NCAA victories in all of the seasons combined that any of those players were on his roster.

Why would anyone waste their money on a coach that wouldn’t know what to do with the talent that it would buy? New coach will drive interest and excitement in the program. NIL donations will follow. In the new world of the NCAA, you can’t have a stale coach like Fran leading a program that has gone stale.

 

[RocknRollface]

Sure it does, area all D1 schools going to spend $3-$4 million on basketball? It might not help against other Big 10 and SEC schools, but, it should help against all the other conferences. There are more schools to compete against in college basketball, revenue sharing should be a big boost for P2 conference schools

Correct big10 and sec schools make more revenue than the other conferences.

 

[RocknRollface]

I am not assuming anything when it comes to splitting the revenue sharing amongst the 13 scholarship players. That's why I very clearly wrote this: "That could be $276,923 each year for each of the 13 scholarship players." And then you, ironically, assume how it will be split. Neither you nor I know.

Why revenue sharing won't make much difference for top players: those players will still command their NIL income, which Iowa doesn't have to offer at the moment; revenue sharing is just adding to their total income.

First you have to define top players. I don't think anyone is under the impression Iowa will be getting 5* recruits no matter what.

Second we have define where Iowas baseline has been to determine whether or not improvement is likely. It's not been good.

Fran just manged to somehow sign a top 50 player and I'm guessing that was continengent on being able to pay him out of that new money that will be available.

So it seems to me like Iowas recruiting is improving.

Iowa doesn't have to beat out the top dogs in the conference in order to be competitive with them. Purdue and Wisconsin usually dont, But they need to be able beat out more schools than they have been able to recently such as mid level acc and b12 teams.

 

[Franisdaman]

I hear that said over and over but haven't seen the figures. What did Iowa spend on NIL this year? What did the other schools spend? I ask as you said it was well known.

Dochterman and Leistikow discussed it and said Iowa was #18 out of 18 B1G teams

 

[Franisdaman]

I wish there was some place you could look to see where this information is publicly available. Or is there? I just want a little transparency on where all of this cash is going. I feel like all we have right now is the word of some people on message boards, and so on.

How much is coming in? How are NIL funds allocated across sports? Who is getting paid and how much?

When it comes to Iowa, the big deals are kept confidential, per the SWARM CEO

Remember when Proctor decommitted from Iowa yet still walked away with the big donor cash before heading back to Bama? That number was not even disclosed, as well.

 

[MikeyHawk]

That money is already earmarked to pay the players……every school will be doing this. It appears that NIL will still play a part in getting other players.

Define every school

 

[83Hawk]

When it comes to Iowa, the big deals are kept confidential, per the SWARM CEO

Remember when Proctor decommitted from Iowa yet still walked away with the big donor cash before heading back to Bama? That number was not even disclosed, as well.

Brad was on KXNO when Proctor bailed and said he received very little money.

 

[Fan In Black]

well..I guess it is what it is then. nothing they can do. no reason to to hire or fire anybody.

 

[River-Hawk]

Izzo wanted Iowa to keep Lick, too. We see right through your crap, Izzo. He wants to keep all the coaches that don't threaten the top of the B1G.

 

[perryhawk]

Define every school

According to Beth G that’s the current thinking among B10 AD’s and the anticipated program that the SEC is going to pursue.

 

[Franisdaman]

3,501 votes so far.

53.5% give Fran an A or a B.

 

[cm8124]

Lifetime contract for Fran, then?

Nah. Bring in McCollum.

right? Fran sucks...

 

[BrewHawk]

83% give B or C

 

[MikeyHawk]

According to Beth G that’s the current thinking among B10 AD’s and the anticipated program that the SEC is going to pursue.

well, that is not every school in D1
Are the Big East, Big 12, and ACC schools going all in on revenue sharing?

 

[AmericaNeedsMe]

What does Nicholas know?

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Hey Chris. Nicholas Baer here.

I know your shtick is to malign the program for engagement, but this is disingenuous even for you.

- All-time winningest coach in program history
- Took Iowa from a bottom dweller to perennial top half B1G finishes & BTT title
- Developed NPOY and a catalogue of all B1G players while being at a consistent recruiting/resource deficit

Grading this era as a C+ is recency bias and flat out wrong.

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The "all-time winningest coach in program history" is under .500 all-time in the Big Ten. Let that sink in....

"...perennial top half finishes." There it is! lmao F*cking nauseating.

 

[doughuddl2]

Define every school

Any of the 362 schools can decide if the want to revenue share and how much.

 

[tdburg11]

And yes, we all know about Tom's support of Todd Lickliter in year 3 and Tom thinking Iowa should give (and have given) Lickliter more time.

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If difference when you sprinkle in 11 conference and two national championships. Fran has sprinkled in zero over 15 years. He has to go.

 

[RushProbst]

Meh. Izzo likes Fran and backs coaches.

At this point coach Fran has ran its course.
If Beth brought him back next year wouldn’t they need to extend his contract out to prevent nearly lame duck status.
Also it seems fans have reached the point of no return with Fran. Next year Short of running the table in the non con and then starting hot in the BT, Carver will be a ghost town all season.

Also Baer touting the all time wins and top half finishes. Cmon man.

 

[MikeyHawk]

Any of the 362 schools can decide if the want to revenue share and how much.

can every D1 school revenue share $20 million?

 

[TampaHawkfan]

The "all-time winningest coach in program history" is under .500 all-time in the Big Ten. Let that sink in....

"...perennial top half finishes." There it is! lmao F*cking nauseating.

Fran is a compiler. Thanks to Barta, Fran stuck around long enough to become the winningest (and losingest) coach in program history due to sheer tenure.

Fran had a decent run for a while, but he is not the best coach we've ever had. Not by half.

 

[doughuddl2]

can every D1 school revenue share $20 million?

Yep $20.5M is the cap. But most don't have that to spend.

 

[Garbanzo Joe]

The reason that Fran is in this pickle isn't lack of NIL. Fran hates slightly above average PG play, rebounding, and defense. He is a one trick pony that has basically run out of tricks.

 

[ichawk24]

can every D1 school revenue share $20 million?

Every school is allowed to, but only the biggest schools will reach the cap. Most, if not all, of the SEC and B10 will spend it all. The top of the ACC and B12 will spend that much, but many will probably spend less. G5 and below will not come close to the cap.

 

[Franisdaman]

The "all-time winningest coach in program history" is under .500 all-time in the Big Ten. Let that sink in....

"...perennial top half finishes." There it is! lmao F*cking nauseating.

Meh. Izzo likes Fran and backs coaches.

At this point coach Fran has ran its course. If Beth brought him back next year wouldn’t they need to extend his contract out to prevent nearly lame duck status.
Also it seems fans have reached the point of no return with Fran. Next year Short of running the table in the non con and then starting hot in the BT, Carver will be a ghost town all season.
Also Baer touting the all time wins and top half finishes. Cmon man.

Well, Glen Worley didn't even play for Fran and you can see what he says below.

And there's that "resources" word again.

I don't care who the coach is next year & beyond. And if there is a new Iowa Head Coach I am sure "America Needs Me" will be spending big bucks on NIL when the new coach arrives. Not. He'll just be bitching that the new coach is not winning enough, too.

IMO, it is time that:

(1) the Iowa Athletic Dept invest in the program (Carver renovation; free tickets for students; the marketing dept actually do its job and market the program)

and

(2) SWARM, the big donors and Iowa fans support NIL WHEN THAT NEW COACH ARRIVES so that we can actually compete for AND GET AND RETAIN players and do MORE THAN finish in the Top Half of the B1G Conference.

Many on here continually bitch about not winning enough; well, put your money where your mouth is (LIKE Glen says below) and invest in the program and invest in SWARM when we move on to the new coach.

 

[AmericaNeedsMe]

Well, Glen Worley didn't even play for Fran and you can see what he says below.

And there's that "resources" word again.

I don't care who the coach is next year & beyond. And if there is a new Iowa Head Coach I am sure "America Needs Me" will be spending big bucks on NIL when the new coach arrives. Not. He'll just be bitching that the new coach is not winning enough, too.

IMO, it is time that:

(1) the Iowa Athletic Dept invest in the program (Carver renovation; free tickets for students; the marketing dept actually do its job and market the program)

and

(2) SWARM, the big donors and Iowa fans support NIL WHEN THAT NEW COACH ARRIVES so that we can actually compete for AND GET AND RETAIN players and do MORE THAN finish in the Top Half of the B1G Conference.

Many on here continually bitch about not winning enough; well, put your money where your mouth is (LIKE Glen says below) and invest in the program and invest in SWARM when we move on to the new coach.

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You don't know anything about my donations or anyone else's for that matter. Keep my name off your filthy keyboard.

 

[Franisdaman]

You don't know anything about my donations or anyone else's for that matter. Keep my name off your filthy keyboard.

Sure I do. You don't support the program at all. You just whine and bitch about everything.

And what's pathetic & ironic is you have a handle of "America needs me."

 

[AmericaNeedsMe]

Sure I do. You don't support the program at all. You just whine and bitch about everything.

And what's pathetic & ironic is you have a handle of "America needs me."

No you don't.

 

[MikeyHawk]

Every school is allowed to, but only the biggest schools will reach the cap. Most, if not all, of the SEC and B10 will spend it all. The top of the ACC and B12 will spend that much, but many will probably spend less. G5 and below will not come close to the cap.

Yea, that was the point I was trying to make, Iowa should be able to recruit at a higher level with revenue sharing

 

[ichawk24]

Yea, that was the point I was trying to make, Iowa should be able to recruit at a higher level with revenue sharing

Agreed, Iowa will be one of the schools that pay the max, which should lead to better recruiting.

 

[Franisdaman]

No you don't.

We all know what your "donations" are to the program; it's blatantly obvious. You contribute nothing to the program now and you will contribute nothing when we get a new coach.

And with that new coach and with your $0 in contributions to the program, you will continue to bitch and whine on here, expect better than upper half finishes in the B1G and expect Sweet 16 appearances, no matter how realistic (or unrealistic) those expectations are.

 

[Franisdaman]

 

[doughuddl2]

So tell me if OSU has a $20M plus NIL and $20M revenue sharing can they outbid the Hawks?

Yea, that was the point I was trying to make, Iowa should be able to recruit at a higher level with revenue sharing

Agreed, Iowa will be one of the schools that pay the max, which should lead to better recruiting.

 

[Franisdaman]

This is a good post from another thread.

I said it before: Michigan State & Iowa State have sugar daddies funding their NIL. Iowa does not have one.

Iowa is dead last in the B1G in NIL player compensation, which likely makes it close to the dead last job in the B1G.

Sure, SOMEONE will sign up for $3M/year, 5 to 7 years, and a HUGE BUY OUT and be Iowa's next head coach, but, like hawkjt says here, that new coach will have an uphill climb.

So you are saying that with a different coach Iowa's own version of Ishbia will surface? Unfortunately Roy Carver is gone. Izzo simply pointed out the truth...Iowa is at the bottom in terms of BIG bb resources.
He did not say it but he probably also was thinking in terms of home state recruiting territory. Iowa is last in division 1 recruits per power 4 programs in state. Combined with poor NIL that makes Iowa BB the worst bb job in BIG.
That is just fundamentals of landscape. Izzo spoke truth. We need a great hire to overcome all this.

 

[BigAssTurkeyLeg]

We are #18 out of 18 B1G teams in NIL compensation. Will that improve with a new head coach? Hopefully.

Will that long talked about Carver renovation improve things for recruiting and for winning? Hopefully.

Remember, too, that Izzo has a billionaire sugar daddy when it comes to NIL; so does Iowa State.

I guess my question on the matter is why if we have no NIL, a coach who doesn’t care, are we suddenly doing so well in recruiting for MBB? I’m not saying this as a defense of Fran or anything, I just find it curious.

 

[83Hawk]

This is a good post from another thread.

I said it before: Michigan State & Iowa State have sugar daddies funding their NIL. Iowa does not have one.

Iowa is dead last in the B1G in NIL player compensation, which likely makes it close to the dead last job in the B1G.

Sure, SOMEONE will sign up for $3M/year, 5 to 7 years, and a HUGE BUY OUT and be Iowa's next head coach, but, like hawkjt says here, that new coach will have an uphill climb.

Close to dead last? Nonsense.

 

[hawkjt]

I guess my question on the matter is why if we have no NIL, a coach who doesn’t care, are we suddenly doing so well in recruiting for MBB? I’m not saying this as a defense of Fran or anything, I just find it curious.

I have to think he is assuring recruits that revenue sharing will take care of them starting next fall.

 

[IChawkeye45]

Fran played his sons over multiple nba first rounders (including a top five pick). Fran loses when the lights are on, even with talent like the Murray’s, Joe W, and Luka on the same team. Why would there be any NIL support?

 

[CyberJJ]

Dochterman and Leistikow discussed it and said Iowa was #18 out of 18 B1G teams

Thought maybe you had more detailed information. For example you said Iowa is dead last, how much did they have? You have said some schools have a billionaire Sugar Daddy, and have referenced Iowa State. How much did they spend? I ask as you have spoke definitively about it so thought you might have numbers.

 

[Franisdaman]

Time to fire a lot of these B1G coaches!

Start with Rutgers' head coach (all that talent & that's all he does?) and work your way down this list.

2024-25 Big Ten Conference Standings​

Team	CONF	GB	OVR
Michigan State	17-3	-	26-5
Maryland	14-6	3	24-7
Michigan	14-6	3	22-9
Wisconsin	13-7	4	23-8
UCLA	13-7	4	22-9
Purdue	13-7	4	21-10
Illinois	12-8	5	20-11
Oregon	11-8	5.5	22-8
Indiana	10-10	7	19-12
Ohio State	9-11	8	17-14
Rutgers	8-12	9	15-16
Nebraska	7-13	10	17-14
Northwestern	7-13	10	16-15
Iowa	7-13	10	16-15
Minnesota	7-13	10	15-16
USC	7-13	10	15-16
Penn State	6-14	11	16-15
Washington	4-15	12.5	13-17