I don’t see hardly anyone on here complaining about us going after guys in the transfer portal in this thread. They’re complaining about a Center and o line that we’re basically still whiffing on guys 12 games into the season. Last year is water under the bridge with the o line. They need to be better this year, and yes, we need to be healthy. They were a part of an offense that was the worst in Iowa history.
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The fairest thing for Jones would be to move him back to DL where he could excel.
Through their collective recruiting efforts, they don't have anything else that they think can play the position...Myslinski has been hurt, and anything else they have recruited appears to have a lack of confidence by the staff...
You are absolutely correct. Lack of help from the portal is being used as an avoidance in this thread. The issue is that the OL gurus of KF, BF, and Barnett couldn't even find a guy-third team, fourth team, fifth team,.....that could at least get in a defender's way. It was just massive failure by all of them.
Question for the OL experts here; is the zone blocking scheme still effective or has its time passed us by and we can no longer expect this scheme to work?
There is no one on this board that is an Oline expert, regardless of what they will tell you.
Wish the coaching staff had an OLine Interventionist.
So your natural assumption is, he is automatically better than the 10 guys slated to play significant minutes?
Talk to me about that?
I doubt that considering it is still WIDELY used in the NFL and many college running attacks!
We agree it’s on the coaches. With that said how many college Fball teams would u say have a good center 4 deep. I’ll hang up and wait…
A non-response will be good enough…😎
Is it more or less than the number of teams that have someone go from DL to starting center?
Felt like they tried to catch lightning in a bottle twice. I am projecting far better timing at the position so hopefully that leads to improvement.
Yeah. I'm not sure why people keep thinking that the coaches were hiding these better linemen and QB's on the bench somewhere. And I'm not trying to defend anyone either. It's 100% on the staff to recruit, develop and gameplan personnel for success. The one thing I think we can all be confident of is that what we saw was the best they had to work with which unfortunately wasn't very good.
Not necessarily.
Center play was grim last year. Giving a REAL Center (Feth) a shot would be wise.
Supposedly a weight room warrior which would give him a good shot at DL.
Yeah why didn't the 49ers have a RB that could easily play QB when Purdy got hurt?? I mean it's easy.
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Anyone else think Iowa has 3 or more TE’s as good or better than MN’s on that list?
Depends on whether you're looking at them through back and gold glasses or maroon and gold glasses. All are very good tight ends.
Yes, super surprised by this… Even confused apparently we do have some individual talent if we can put it together!
Colby was placed at tackle for lack of any other viable options. He was an effective guard, not so much an effective tackle. I'm hoping 🙏 tackle doesn't look anything like last year, but tackle and center are still question marks until we see different.
Blocking scheme is not the problem.
Especially, given some of the impressive, behemoth talents that exist these days at DT ... a single guy cannot match up against a guy like that. Therein lies the advantage of zone-schemes ... it provides a natural and adaptive framework for allocating blocking resources.
However, the caveat of having all that power of adaptability is that it requires guys to communicate really well together AND for guys to be very coordinated in how they move relative to one another. If guys on the OL move out of sync ... then that opens up opportunities for opposing Ds to exploit.
This caveat, as you might imagine, implies that good zone blocking tends to have a little bit more of a learning curve.
Anyhow, in the standard "cat-and-mouse" game played on the schematic level ... the Hawks frequently counter Ds that try to "cheat" against our zone by mixing in more gap-scheme elements. Thus, schematically we're not a one-trick pony.
I was wondering what happened to Davidikov and then saw a mention of a medical issue. Is he gone from the team or may he be coming back if medically able to do so. During the recruiting process we were hearing he was a can't miss prospect. Hopefully he will return in good health.
🤞🏻🤞🏻Tough gig getting rushed into new position that has as many responsibilities as the center has. A years experience and working on technique this off season will go a long way on the O-line consistency this fall.
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He is a guard. I will believe Dunker at T if and when it happens. Life was moving fast for him at G. But a year of experience helps.
I imagine he (Dunker) wins the Hay bale toss tomorrow night in Solon. Won it last year.
That's the key. The move from DL to center is a rare one and they had spring practice, pre-season, and the season itself to see that in this case, it wasn't working. But did nothing.
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