And exactly what topic is that?
P.S. Addressing has 2 d's
Oh wait...I see now.
You called us mouthbreathers.........OK.....you're on topic after all.
And exactly what topic is that?
P.S. Addressing has 2 d's
Of course this went over poorly. We live in a white, heteronormative, patriarchal society. The majority of posters on wrestling boards benefit from the hegemonic systems in place and do not wish to challenge their pre-existing beliefs or standards they've taken for granted as societal norms. Not to mention wrestling is a sport with a culture of extreme hypermasculinity making it even more uncomfortable for most to try to go against the hegemonic grain.
I saw this before I had my coffee this morning. Now that I have....
I would have to say that literary aspirants should religiously eschew polysyllabic orthography. The philosophical and philological substructures of this principle are ineluctable. Excessively attenuated verbal symbols inevitably induce unnecessary complexities, and consequently exaggerate the obfuscation of the interpreter.
Conversely, expressions reduced to the utmost minimum of simplification, constitute a much less onerous obstacle to the perspicacity of the peruser. How much more appealing is that euphonious pulchritude, as compared to the pretentious pomposity of elongated verbiage?
On to my second cup....and some work.
I saw this before I had my coffee this morning. Now that I have....
I would have to say that literary aspirants should religiously eschew polysyllabic orthography. The philosophical and philological substructures of this principle are ineluctable. Excessively attenuated verbal symbols inevitably induce unnecessary complexities, and consequently exaggerate the obfuscation of the interpreter.
Conversely, expressions reduced to the utmost minimum of simplification, constitute a much less onerous obstacle to the perspicacity of the peruser. How much more appealing is that euphonious pulchritude, as compared to the pretentious pomposity of elongated verbiage?
On to my second cup....and some work.
Ditto.I saw this before I had my coffee this morning. Now that I have....
I would have to say that literary aspirants should religiously eschew polysyllabic orthography. The philosophical and philological substructures of this principle are ineluctable. Excessively attenuated verbal symbols inevitably induce unnecessary complexities, and consequently exaggerate the obfuscation of the interpreter.
Conversely, expressions reduced to the utmost minimum of simplification, constitute a much less onerous obstacle to the perspicacity of the peruser. How much more appealing is that euphonious pulchritude, as compared to the pretentious pomposity of elongated verbiage?
On to my second cup....and some work.
Huh? I'm trying to connect her post to your response. Are you saying that makes any of the other stuff she said ok?I've also noticed most of the United States Military graveyards around the Globe are filled with 99% of members from that exclusive "white boys club", that fought and died for you and I to live freely, and for many to trash those very same people. Short memories we have here in the good ol' USA.
Maybe I'm the only one that's ever noticed that though......................
I really didn't write anything that complicated. While I can see "hegemony" might not be a topic everyone is familiar with, everything else is pretty straight forward.
My lizard brain can't comprehend all this blathering.I really didn't write anything that complicated. While I can see "hegemony" might not be a topic everyone is familiar with, everything else is pretty straight forward.
Most people understand hackneyed sociology cliches and the language of victimology 101.
I saw this before I had my coffee this morning. Now that I have....
I would have to say that literary aspirants should religiously eschew polysyllabic orthography. The philosophical and philological substructures of this principle are ineluctable. Excessively attenuated verbal symbols inevitably induce unnecessary complexities, and consequently exaggerate the obfuscation of the interpreter.
Conversely, expressions reduced to the utmost minimum of simplification, constitute a much less onerous obstacle to the perspicacity of the peruser. How much more appealing is that euphonious pulchritude, as compared to the pretentious pomposity of elongated verbiage?
On to my second cup....and some work.
I didn't "read" it, because I didn't care what the dork (jopafan) was saying. And no I didn't originally catch Wendy's "translation". Regardless, what I said before still stands (I'm not "picking" on her, think I've made that clear). Like it or don't like it, don't care either way.Wrong. jopafanclub said it....you just couldn't read it apparently. Wendy translated for everyone.
Shoot first...........aim later. Shoot the messenger.......not the originator of the message. Wow!
You needed to address jopa not Wendy.
What you did is called "Friendly Fire".
Switch to decaf.I saw this before I had my coffee this morning. Now that I have....
I would have to say that literary aspirants should religiously eschew polysyllabic orthography. The philosophical and philological substructures of this principle are ineluctable. Excessively attenuated verbal symbols inevitably induce unnecessary complexities, and consequently exaggerate the obfuscation of the interpreter.
Conversely, expressions reduced to the utmost minimum of simplification, constitute a much less onerous obstacle to the perspicacity of the peruser. How much more appealing is that euphonious pulchritude, as compared to the pretentious pomposity of elongated verbiage?
On to my second cup....and some work.
Did you type that in German and convert it to English PapaBear? There's your Option #2 for your so-called exercise of "privilege".Huh? I'm trying to connect her post to your response. Are you saying that makes any of the other stuff she said ok?
I'm far from the "I can't catch a break cause the man keeps holding me down" type of guy. I don't play the race card like I keep a deck of em in my back pocket either. But on the occasion that I do attribute a slight or unfairness to the offender's sense of superiority due to race, though I might give it give it a pass, I would have a helluva time saying its ok because "most of the United States Military graveyards around the Globe are filled with 99% of members from that exclusive white boys club, that fought and died for you and I to live freely"
That sounds like a justification for a group to exercise "privilege"
Darn you Fortunato for opening this black hole of a thread.
Switch to decaf.
Who was great by the way. Crime that she didn't get nominated.Like Amy Adams in Arrival.
Did you type that in German and convert it to English PapaBear? There's your Option #2 for your so-called exercise of "privilege".
I'm thankful someone gave me Option #1.
I'm confused AZ, you mean they don't give out 33 participation trophies at NCAAs?
Sara, HR has never been a place particularly cushioned by civility. Like you, I'd guess that I don't share the political sentiments of the majority of the posters here, but I do try to tolerate them, because the things I disagree with are not the sum total of the value of these folks. I'm certain that you've come to the same conclusion at your job. Your clients don't always act the way you wish they would, but you have more to offer and more to learn from them.I've been on HR since Tyler Nixt moved in across the street in early 2000's. Although I'd gone to matches since 1995, I didn't like wrestling because one kid, working so hard out there, had to lose. I went to be a good sport, but was the one wanting to leave after 197. I began to care about Tyler, then the team. We've been to the NCAA's many times since then. I am ignorant about the actual act and feel of wrestling, as well as history, so started watching this forum to learn.
I don't have any uncommon wrestling experiences so most of my posts relate to the connection of wresting and politics, important to me because I am a professional social worker who cares about people. Posts you've seen from me are about what I perceive as civil right slights. I have no patient for it so am strained beyond capacity in the current political era.
I found a group called Hawkeye Wrestling Fan Club 2 on Facebook. At least one of the administrators is a woman. Perhaps because of her presence or perhaps because participants are identified by their actual name, it is a different atmosphere than here. One doesn't have to be on guard for sarcasm or disrespectful "locker room" talk.
I'm grateful to HR for distraction provided during shitty life crises over the past 17 years, as well as education and current information, but I'm putting it on hold until next season. I have been disassociating from a lot since the election.
Sara Henryson
AKA Fortunata.
Suggesting that the ruling class manipulates the masses by setting an agenda of societal norms that benefits their interests isn't trolling.
I didn't "read" it, because I didn't care what the dork (jopafan) was saying. And no I didn't originally catch Wendy's "translation". Regardless, what I said before still stands (I'm not "picking" on her, think I've made that clear). Like it or don't like it, don't care either way.
That same topic "white mans club" was brought up on the local radio this A.M. in Minneapolis. Apparently some white female in the State Legislature was doing what many seem to like to do these days, and that is bash white males. Apparently we're the "safe class" for everyone to denigrate, because I guess it's "socially acceptable".
To them I say GFY. And pray that the "white males club" doesn't bite back at some point. They are after all almost solely responsible for all these asshats to comment due to the freedom these men have provided for all of us.
I've also noticed most of the United States Military graveyards around the Globe are filled with 99% of members from that exclusive "white boys club", that fought and died for you and I to live freely, and for many to trash those very same people. Short memories we have here in the good ol' USA.
Maybe I'm the only one that's ever noticed that though......................
Sara, HR has never been a place particularly cushioned by civility. Like you, I'd guess that I don't share the political sentiments of the majority of the posters here, but I do try to tolerate them, because the things I disagree with are not the sum total of the value of these folks. I'm certain that you've come to the same conclusion at your job. Your clients don't always act the way you wish they would, but you have more to offer and more to learn from them.
You're right: in wrestling someone has to lose. Everyone loses. And you lose alone, with no one else to blame. When you lose badly, you feel not worthy of respect. That IS part of the actual act and feel of wrestling, and it's very personal. However, the most important part is not when you lose, but how you pick yourself up after you lose. That's also how you earn respect, whether you're Spencer Lee, Jordan Burroughs, Adeline Gray, or Helen Maroulis.
There's much learn from the greatest of all sports beyond the technical aspects, and if you self-segregate because a cascade of slights by people who are calloused, or may just feel disrespected, then you will miss as much as they do.
Gregg Dinderman
AKA grapplefan
Your point about 99% intrigued me and got me thinking a bit and I don't think you are correct with your numbers at all.
When I was in the Military in the late 1960's I observed that they were much further ahead of civilian society in the integration of minorities. Civil rights protests were going on big time, but the Military had plenty of Blacks and Latinos already operating perfectly well with no problems.
During the late 60's and early 70's while the Vietnam War was going on many of the middle class and upper class white kids were going to College and getting their Student Deferment from being drafted. I knew people that stayed in college 6-7 years just to avoid being drafted. Not so lucky were the low income people who couldn't afford College like a lot of blacks from the cities. A lot of farm kids from the Midwest and other blue collar types got drafted also since they didn't need College to drive a tractor or turn a wrench at an auto repair shop.
There seemed to be a much larger black population in the Military at that time than in the general population overall as I recall. For a lot of them it seemed to be about the only option for a career they had. Many, many men of different races defended our country and many died in that war. From having been there and lived thru that time I think your 99% number is fantasy for that time period. I would guess that the Gulf Wars in Iraq were nowhere near your 99% either. Even the Civil War had all Black troops as we saw in the movie "Glory". Approixmately 180,000 blacks served in the Union Army. More men died in our Civil War, both sides, than all of our other Wars combined.
Can't see where you got your 99% number. I think you just made it up. Starting to think you are not all that reliable for accurate information.
But like you say,..... "like it or don't like it, makes no difference to me."
I read almost every thread on this board, and maybe I'm dense, but I hardly ever notice political/sexist/racist or other offensive comments. I wish there were examples, because this post really confuses me.
As the tears roll down your face.Gregg, thank you for your thoughtful response. Surprisingly, my reaction to about 5 pages of bullying, with a few kind remarks, has been positive. Some comments justified my decision, and I'm strangely unhooked from it all. I haven't even looked at the thread on ISU, though Zadick is a favorite.
I'll just continue to be truthful to a more accountable audience, because I don't have to tolerate this.
Sara
As I said, troll for Poke fans and you'll always find some. Welcome back, Mike!As the tears roll down your face.
Mark Hall was closer...
White-86%
Black-12%
Hispanic (All included)-1%
https://www.archives.gov/research/military/vietnam-war/casualty-statistics.html#race
You should start a protest with a catchy title and boycott HR. These guys are bullies and I bet most are Russian Operatives.Gregg, thank you for your thoughtful response. Surprisingly, my reaction to about 5 pages of bullying, with a few kind remarks, has been positive. Some comments justified my decision, and I'm strangely unhooked from it all. I haven't even looked at the thread on ISU, though Zadick is a favorite.
I'll just continue to be truthful to a more accountable audience, because I don't have to tolerate this.
Sara
Gregg, thank you for your thoughtful response. Surprisingly, my reaction to about 5 pages of bullying, with a few kind remarks, has been positive. Some comments justified my decision, and I'm strangely unhooked from it all. I haven't even looked at the thread on ISU, though Zadick is a favorite.
I'll just continue to be truthful to a more accountable audience, because I don't have to tolerate this.
Sara
Ad infinitumhow many times do you think she will come back and say she is never coming back?
Gregg, thank you for your thoughtful response. Surprisingly, my reaction to about 5 pages of bullying, with a few kind remarks, has been positive. Some comments justified my decision, and I'm strangely unhooked from it all. I haven't even looked at the thread on ISU, though Zadick is a favorite.
I'll just continue to be truthful to a more accountable audience, because I don't have to tolerate this.
Sara
Sorry to hear that Fortunata. Unfortunately, politics is everywhere...even here sometimes. Yup, I have participated too. As for locker room talk, I think it's kind of funny that you mention Facebook but you know where I see the most locker room talk and objectifying pictures? On Facebook...by women. Yup...lots of otherwise respectable, sometimes married women often post pics of beefcake dudes and talk smack. You know where I don't see it? From men...Probably because when a woman does it, she's being fun and her friends are cheering her on. When a guy does it, it's just tacky and weird or disrespectful of his wife or g/r.
My point? This is a place where dudes can blow off steam, talk sh*t, and get together on their favorite sport. Funny thing is, women are not objectified all that much on here. Yea, get a signature pic of a gal every once in awhile and a thread of Tognetti girls or one with actual hot women...but by and large, we keep it pretty respectful considering most of us are a bunch of former wrestlers
Have fun on the fan club site...my experience on FB though is that real names don't matter and political talk is more likely on there than it is here. At least here, folks often jump in and try to call "knock it off." But maybe that's the place for you because you are right...you did patrol for perceived slights more than you actually talked about wrestling. Good luck.