This is just garbage basketball

[RagnarLothbrok]

Iowa just doesn’t have talent or athleticism. Dix and maybe Traore and Thelwell off the bench are about the only Iowa players I would want on the team. The rest are PWO or Missouri Valley talent.

Payton Sandfort clearly has the McCaffrey union card. It doesn’t matter how many ill-advised shots he chucks up, how soft he is on defense, or how little he cares about boxing out and rebounding, his minutes are never in doubt. Harding belongs at Kirkwood; Mulvey is a joke; Dembele has Adam Woodbury athleticism, and the other Sandfort is a carbon copy of his brother.

Wisconsin is pretty much what they always are—scrappy and well coached. No one on the floor really impresses you too much, Tonje is decent, they just have a bunch of guys who can shoot 3s and play tough defense. Generally, that’s a recipe for winning a lot of games.

Anyway, I watched today and it’s pretty much what I expected. Even if Iowa pulls this game out of their ass, Fran ball needs to go. Bring in a coach who stops scouring the sales counters of J Crew and the Pottery Barn for recruits. This is college basketball, not a swim meet.

 

[BrunoMars420]

#FireFran

 

[ChuckBarkley]

Agree it’s time for a change. But we also need more NIL money. Hearing Brad talk makes it sound like we are in the bottom of B10 in terms of basketball support.

 

[BrunoMars420]

Agree it’s time for a change. But we also need more NIL money. Hearing Brad talk makes it sound like we are in the bottom of B10 in terms of basketball support.

For good reason

 

[MWardT]

Nice of you to join us. This the first game you’ve watched since 2021? It’s been garbage basketball since then. Keegan carried the team in 2022.

 

[TampaHawkfan]

I've seen this movie many times before out of Fran's teams. Fold like a cheap suit down the stretch in close games against good opponents. Look good for 30-35 minutes, but disappear during crunch time.

Still zero quad 1 wins.

 

[dekhawk]

Agree it’s time for a change. But we also need more NIL money. Hearing Brad talk makes it sound like we are in the bottom of B10 in terms of basketball support.

Donators want a payback, they don’t see it happening with Fran.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

#FireFran

This is a joke.

The Sandforts look like prepubescents out there chucking up garbage shots while dreaming they’re Steph Curry.

If this isn’t a college swim team, this is a 2A Iowa high school team with a couple foreign exchange students from Africa. It’s just absolute shit basketball.

 

[millah_22]

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

Agree it’s time for a change. But we also need more NIL money. Hearing Brad talk makes it sound like we are in the bottom of B10 in terms of basketball support.

The money is out there. The fan interest just isn’t there anymore for basketball. Look where Iowa ranks in NIL for football.

https://247sports.com/longformarticle/college-footballs-top-50-programs-ranked-by-nil-efforts-235181311/amp/

 

[OutbackBowl2017]

This is a joke.

The Sandforts look like prepubescents out there chucking up garbage shots while dreaming they’re Steph Curry.

If this isn’t a college swim team, this is a 2A Iowa high school team with a couple foreign exchange students from Africa. It’s just absolute shit basketball.

Add in 15 years of never teaching how to close out on a three point shooter. LoL. 15 years of this shiat.

 

[TRHawkeye145]

This is a joke.

The Sandforts look like prepubescents out there chucking up garbage shots while dreaming they’re Steph Curry.

If this isn’t a college swim team, this is a 2A Iowa high school team with a couple foreign exchange students from Africa. It’s just absolute shit basketball.

Traore looks like the only dude who even belongs. Despite recruiting the swim team....there must be no strength and conditioning program. Guys look skinnier the longer they are here

 

[TampaHawkfan]

The money is out there. The fan interest just isn’t there anymore for basketball. Look where Iowa ranks in NIL for football.

https://247sports.com/longformarticle/college-footballs-top-50-programs-ranked-by-nil-efforts-235181311/amp/

Yep. If this is accurate, 16th nationally. Should be able to compete.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

Nice of you to join us. This the first game you’ve watched since 2021? It’s been garbage basketball since then. Keegan carried the team in 2022.

No. I watched some of the Iowa State and Indiana games this season.

I’m staying inside sick today so I am actually watching sports all day. Unfortunate, because it’s sunny and 70 today in my neck of the woods.

 

[OutbackBowl2017]

He should just resign but he is holding out for a buyout or wants to be fired to get max pay out. Screw it, just fire him and give him the money to go away since he won’t do the honorable thing after 15 years being paid millions.

 

[BurgHawk87]

Agree it’s time for a change. But we also need more NIL money. Hearing Brad talk makes it sound like we are in the bottom of B10 in terms of basketball support.

Not that I donate or will, but with the current staff in place I wouldn't expect donations to ever change for the better. And why should they?

 

[ozzie8]

Not that I donate or will, but with the current staff in place I wouldn't expect donations to ever change for the better. And why should they?

They won’t. Sherm’s probably already at the Iowa athletic club

 

[RushProbst]

Payton was 2-11
1-7 from 3 w 3 airballs
Fouled his own brother on Pryce’s garbage time layup attempt and then complained to the refs.

 

[Max_Rebo]

The money is out there. The fan interest just isn’t there anymore for basketball. Look where Iowa ranks in NIL for football.

https://247sports.com/longformarticle/college-footballs-top-50-programs-ranked-by-nil-efforts-235181311/amp/

Brad alluded to this in the recent podcast he did for HawkCast (the podcast for this site). He noted that men’s basketball donations were down, and even took the blame a bit. But reading between the lines, as I am prone to do, it seems like the blame lies elsewhere.

 

[doughuddl2]

Brad alluded to this in the recent podcast he did for HawkCast (the podcast for this site). He noted that men’s basketball donations were down, and even took the blame a bit. But reading between the lines, as I am prone to do, it seems like the blame lies elsewhere.

Yeah the fans.

 

[doughuddl2]

The money is out there. The fan interest just isn’t there anymore for basketball. Look where Iowa ranks in NIL for football.

https://247sports.com/longformarticle/college-footballs-top-50-programs-ranked-by-nil-efforts-235181311/amp/

The money is NOT out there. Latest podcast the Swarm is up to 3000 members, up 1000 this past year. He wanted 10000 to match other schools. Some schools have 2-3 clubs. That's the joke on Iowa. Hawk fans are cheap I guess.

 

[Etalicus]

Agree it’s time for a change. But we also need more NIL money. Hearing Brad talk makes it sound like we are in the bottom of B10 in terms of basketball support.

You won't see people donate til Fran gone. Like it or not he's lost the main fan base

 

[Ronman]

Can anyone else remember one of Iowa's premier shooters being in a season long slump? I would bet that Payton thinks he will come out of it, but it is just getting worse. It's the airballs every game that get me. I wasn't a great shooter, but at least I could always hit the frickin' rim! Every game is costing him $.

 

[CookyMonster]

The real stunner is someone writing four paragraphs about this team after witnessing the first twenty games of this shitshow of a season.

 

[Ronman]

The money is NOT out there. Latest podcast the Swarm is up to 3000 members, up 1000 this past year. He wanted 10000 to match other schools. Some schools have 2-3 clubs. That's the joke on Iowa. Hawk fans are cheap I guess.

Don't we soon get all the network TV money that can be spread around to the players?

 

[Garzatough85]

Agree it’s time for a change. But we also need more NIL money. Hearing Brad talk makes it sound like we are in the bottom of B10 in terms of basketball support.

if fans are like me I’m not spending anything on NIL until there’s a change at the top

 

[iahawks10]

Yep. If this is accurate, 16th nationally. Should be able to compete.

What percentage of that goes towards basketball vs football and other sports?

If it’s anything like the general athletic budget, that’s a little over 6%. Six percent to your only sports program besides football that’s profitable.

 

[HawkLogic]

With college sports being a business, the last guy I want in charge is an old dude that doesn't understand the portal, has problem recruiting/keeping Black athletes, doesn't understand NIL, roster management, or basketball X and O's and on top of it is mailing it in for a full buyout so he can hang out with Jack at Butler.

It's going to be expensive to get rid of this guy and be able to pay the next guy and fund NIL, but please pull the plug this spring. It will be even worse next year if Fran is still around. The guy is not honorable enough to call it quits on his own and Barta gave him too big of an extension/guaranteed money in 2021.

 

[MitchLL]

Recruiting kids that can play defense would be a good start.

Hopefully there's no more Sandforts in Waukee.

 

[Kinnick 4 Prez]

The money is NOT out there. Latest podcast the Swarm is up to 3000 members, up 1000 this past year. He wanted 10000 to match other schools. Some schools have 2-3 clubs. That's the joke on Iowa. Hawk fans are cheap I guess.

Several universities are in the same boat as Iowa when it comes to NIL and fans being "cheap". I don't blame fans for not donating. I personally won't donate outside of buying some Swarm beer a few times a year. I've got more important matters in my life then paying young adults to play a sport that really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. Its just a sport.

 

[Heathen Raider]

Agree it’s time for a change. But we also need more NIL money. Hearing Brad talk makes it sound like we are in the bottom of B10 in terms of basketball support.

Swarm allocates 80% football 10% each to Men's and Woman's BB , More People are checking the sport they want to donate to, I always give to football only Myself . I would rather donate cash to the Wagner PMC than give Fran a penny , that is the problem, I am not a one off in this belief for donating, Fran should have been fired Years ago Fans are having their say with game attendance and Swarm donations and if Beth is too donkey punched to read the room and fire the Guy then She should be the next shown the door right after that grifter Fran is fired by anyone at Iowa who is not a mental midget in the Athletic Department

 

[Heathen Raider]

What percentage of that goes towards basketball vs football and other sports?

If it’s anything like the general athletic budget, that’s a little over 6%. Six percent to your only sports program besides football that’s profitable.

80% , 10% 10% is the breakdown for football and each BB Team if not specified , More People ( like Me ) specify football only and Women's BB

 

[Heathen Raider]

Several universities are in the same boat as Iowa when it comes to NIL and fans being "cheap". I don't blame fans for not donating. I personally won't donate outside of buying some Swarm beer a few times a year. I've got more important matters in my life then paying young adults to play a sport that really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. Its just a sport.

1 time donations are not counted toward the 3000 , Myself a few times a Year i throw a single payment at football , that way i control when funds go out and that they all go towards football

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

The real stunner is someone writing four paragraphs about this team after witnessing the first twenty games of this shitshow of a season.

No. A real stunner would be if you were actually able to read four paragraphs.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

The money is NOT out there. Latest podcast the Swarm is up to 3000 members, up 1000 this past year. He wanted 10000 to match other schools. Some schools have 2-3 clubs. That's the joke on Iowa. Hawk fans are cheap I guess.

Refute the article with facts or STFU.

 

[jwardelt]

Iowa just doesn’t have talent or athleticism. Dix and maybe Traore and Thelwell off the bench are about the only Iowa players I would want on the team. The rest are PWO or Missouri Valley talent.

Payton Sandfort clearly has the McCaffrey union card. It doesn’t matter how many ill-advised shots he chucks up, how soft he is on defense, or how little he cares about boxing out and rebounding, his minutes are never in doubt. Harding belongs at Kirkwood; Mulvey is a joke; Dembele has Adam Woodbury athleticism, and the other Sandfort is a carbon copy of his brother.

Wisconsin is pretty much what they always are—scrappy and well coached. No one on the floor really impresses you too much, Tonje is decent, they just have a bunch of guys who can shoot 3s and play tough defense. Generally, that’s a recipe for winning a lot of games.

Anyway, I watched today and it’s pretty much what I expected. Even if Iowa pulls this game out of their ass, Fran ball needs to go. Bring in a coach who stops scouring the sales counters of J Crew and the Pottery Barn for recruits. This is college basketball, not a swim meet.

 

[doughuddl2]

Several universities are in the same boat as Iowa when it comes to NIL and fans being "cheap". I don't blame fans for not donating. I personally won't donate outside of buying some Swarm beer a few times a year. I've got more important matters in my life then paying young adults to play a sport that really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. Its just a sport.

I hear yah, no issues from me.

I don't have the answers.

Reality is hard for some on here.

I will have to do some research on ISU funds for basketball.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

 

[jwardelt]

Can anyone else remember one of Iowa's premier shooters being in a season long slump? I would bet that Payton thinks he will come out of it, but it is just getting worse. It's the airballs every game that get me. I wasn't a great shooter, but at least I could always hit the frickin' rim! Every game is costing him $.

He wasn’t destined for anything but Latvia anyways.

 

[Underscore2]

Looked like Harding really killed any momentum whenever he came into the game.