I mean, this is pretty typical Fran ball, right?

[HawkLogic]

Fran should have been gone a while ago, for all the reasons we hear every game. That said, we all heard about how Harding will never be able to handle the guards in the big ten. He and Thelwel, handled themselves really well tonight, against one of the best guard tandems in the country, and better than any in the big ten in my opinion. Laji looked good coming off the bench to spot Freeman for a few minutes at a time. Freeman still looks out of shape, (hopefully he can play himself into shape, sooner rather than later). If Traore can get some solid minutes, we should be pretty good. That's about all we can expect with Fran as coach.

Harding had really good 1st half and really rough 2nd half. Harding Is pretty exciting to watch at times, but ISU guards like Gilbert, Jones, Lipsey win games.

Most everyone expected a loss and losing in the manner they did is kind of typical, not surprising. If you think the goal of P5 basketball is to be just a little bit above average vs yourP5/Big10 peers, then yeah, Iowa fans have had it really, really good for long time.

 

[Clone2]

We actually have a conference with good teams in it. It only took Texas and Oklahoma leaving for you guys to even get a shot and you blew it lmao

But you might want to worry about your basketball team, you almost choked to lowly Iowa. Smells like a first round exit to me.

Wrong again, we were in the CCG 4 years ago and both Texas and Oklahoma were still in the conference? Keep the thoughts of those wonderful BIG West titles in your memories, it's all you'll have moving forward. The only basketball team that choked last night was yours! Shooting out of your mind at home and you still couldn't win it. We got your best shot and the best you could do was lose by 9?

 

[Hawksfinal4]

I think his point is there is a lot of apathy. I will watch much more of the women’s games than the men’s games. I’m not going out of my way to watch Fran’s bunch do the same bullshit every game.

Possibly but to say no one is bitchin after all I read today is absolutely ridiculous as well as a bold faced lie

 

[jonesy5960]

Wrong again, we were in the CCG 4 years ago and both Texas and Oklahoma were still in the conference? Keep the thoughts of those wonderful BIG West titles in your memories, it's all you'll have moving forward. The only basketball team that choked last night was yours! Shooting out of your mind at home and you still couldn't win it. We got your best shot and the best you could do was lose by 9?

Okay. Okay. We get it. ISU is very good. Iowa is not. Now go back home and enjoy your win like a good little man.

 

[MikeyHawk]

“give it a rest, dude” ?
Understand, UIowa got exactly what they hired when Fran came aboard. Fran is Fran. His team’s score points and his defense is often sketchy at best. Wanna go back to those nights of 42 points again?
Maybe Lute or Ralph will come back? Fran ain’t perfect but it could be a whole lot worse, too. Hawks played hard last night. My disappointment is Fran’s teams don’t rebound very well.

If Fran isn't the coach Iowa will go back to scoring 42 points a game!

 

[hawksense]

Killed on the boards. Again.
I really hate the no boxing out thing. It might be very old school, but I still think it has value for every player on the defensive end of the floor to put their backside between an offensive player and the hoop when the shot goes up.

I would smash the like button more, if I could.

 

[HawkeyeGenius]

How did your championship game go? You will never see another. Your success was built on the Big West which is gone forever!

Just wait until your conference has no more auto bids to the CFP.

 

[hawkirugged17]

If Fran isn't the coach Iowa will go back to scoring 42 points a game!

 

[Ronman]

I’d give my left nut for a new coach without lifetime job security

Beth, make it so!

 

[Ronman]

Payton is contributing the exact same average points as he did last season. Yes, his shooting per centages are somewhat down across the board, but sixteen points is enough to keep him on the floor. I don't remember so much hate for this particular player last year when he would save out ass at times with his shooting. I guess you guys think he has lost all his talent now and should transfer to Augustana or somewhere beneath us where his talent would be comparable. I hope you are as gracious to him as you are currently burning him when he regains his shooting touch.

 

[iahawks10]

Just wait until your conference has no more auto bids to the CFP.

No conference has an automatic bid for the CFP.

 

[HawkeyeGenius]

No conference has an automatic bid for the CFP.

The five highest ranked conference champs get a bid.

CFP Selection Committee Protocol

CFP Selection Committee Protocol

collegefootballplayoff.com

 

[iahawks10]

The five highest ranked conference champs get a bid.

CFP Selection Committee Protocol

CFP Selection Committee Protocol

collegefootballplayoff.com

Yeah, but that’s not guaranteed to be the Big 12, or any other conference. Like I said, no conference is guaranteed an auto bid.

If Army beats ND, the Big 12 would have been left out of the playoffs this year.

 

[hahkize]

Iowa's MBB woes really stem from Fran's offensive philosophy / design and roster recruitment / management.
Hawk's were playing loose and relaxed in the first 3/4 of the game, shooting well. ISU going thru the motions, hanging around.

From the 7-minute mark the majority of possessions resulted in PERIMETER shots (which seems to be FMs emphasis).
Harding FTs under 2:00 get us w/in 2.

The next 5 possessions (1:53-0:19) were ALL 3pt / perimeter shots.
We seem to have NO plan or ability to manufacture points late to answer an opponents score via a drive and /or FTs.

This is the Achilles heel on this team.
Good teams have a way to answer runs and score when needed to keep it close and manage clock. We have no one and ISU has 3-4. Live by the Sword '3', Die by the Sword '3'

Iowa possessions vs ISU beginning @ the 7:12 mark and Iowa leading 68-66

Time on clock	Player	Action	Iowa - ISU Score
7:12	Thelwell	2 FTs	70-66
6:36	Sandfort	Miss 3pt	70-69
6:17	Freeman	Layup	72-69
5:36	Thelwell	Miss Layup	72-69
5:27	Freeman	Miss Jumper	72-69
5:22	Triore	Miss Jumper	72-69
4:56	Sandfort	Miss 3pt	72-72
4:22	Freeman	2 FTs	74-72
3:34	Freeman	Miss 2 FTs	74-74
3:16	Harding	TO	74-74
2:34	Dix	Miss Jumper	74-76
1:53	Harding	2 FTs	76-78
1:23	Thelwell	Miss 3pt	76-81
1:08	Sandfort	Miss 3pt	76-81
0:32	Dix	Miss 3pt	76-83
0:24	Dix	Miss 3pt	76-84
0:19	Sandfort	Miss Jumper	76-84
0:13	Harding	Layup	78-86

I posted this earlier in the BIG thread, but meant to post it here.

 

[chuck285]

iowa ran out of gas at the end. No fresh bodies down the stretch. Stupid.

Payton Sandfort shouldn’t have the green light to chuck up off-balanced 3s whenever he wants. He should have gotten the Joe Touissant treatment in the second half.

Iowa State shot uncharacteristically poor from 3 in the 1st half. Iowa was red hot and still couldn’t manage to go into the half up double digits.

Iowa is still trash on the glass. Absolutely trash. Can’t win anything of consequence when you can’t rebound.

Yes, Iowa State is good, but I don’t see much difference in talent from a lot of Hoiberg years based off this game. They are active defensively, but Iowa got pretty much any shot they wanted until they got gassed at the end. So, I don’t know. We’ll see how Iowa State does in the tournament. Hard to know in December.

I will say for my first real taste of Iowa basketball this year I was surprised they are much better athletically than I would have guessed. I’m not saying they’re great, but they are much better than what we’re used to. I will also say Brock Harding is much better than I expected.

So, yeah, valiant effort, and kudos to the kids for hanging tough, but in my view this was pretty much BAU for Fran ball.

I get tired of you Neb. fans getting on here and bitching about Iowa. I'm sure you must be a college coach who is the next Mike K.

 

[83Hawk]

I posted this earlier in the BIG thread, but meant to post it here.

Yesterday, Tennessee had a player who drove the length of the floor with less than 6 seconds to play, taking the ball to the basket for a lay in as time expired to beat Illinois.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

I get tired of you Neb. fans getting on here and bitching about Iowa. I'm sure you must be a college coach who is the next Mike K.

I have been accused of many things and couldn’t care less. Calling me a Nebraska fan is below the belt.

Be better.