This longshoreman strike will get ugly
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Automation is the need in the future. The union is being ridiculous and probably deserve a raise but seriously 77%?
So they will get strike pay (assuming they show up to man the picket lines) and hurt John and Jane Q. Citizen, but if the price of everything goes up or doesn't exist at all, they'll be hurting themselves, too.
It's like a kamikaze attack.
It's like a kamikaze attack.
If you consume all production, what do you invest to increase production tomorrow and increase living standards for the future?
It shows the success of “trickle down economics”……..the one Bill Clinton told 30 years ago doesn’t work……but the GOP knew better..
OK, I wasn't scared when you said higher priced Christmas gifts (my kids want cash) or delays on bananas and cherries. But booze and chocolate?!?! WTF?!? I don't care what these people's demands are. I and the American people stand with them!!!!
They're striking while the iron is hot. They know the administration will be reluctant to intervene on the cusp of the election.
Strange for the “most union friendly administration” ever as you stated above
Tell the young kids it's called "Port Authority Simulator" and that they get paid to play it.
$5/hr plus all the Cheetos you can eat and Mt Dew you can drink. You won't see the little bastards for weeks!
First off we have built up quite a bit of inventory in the car market and stores. This guys timeline is way off due to that. Secondly Biden can force this to go through more than just the 90 days. This seems similar to the John Deere negotiations. That union asked for sky high pay that wasn’t sustainable. Deere agreed and is now moving lines to Mexico.
You can’t move port jobs to Mexico. Different leverage in negotiations
This is all about automation. There is always something the unions are worried about.
I don’t care what they negotiate on salary but their demand to prohibit automation is laughable
The union rejected an offer of 50% over 6 years before the midnight deadline.
Almost like he’s a liar and a hypocrite.
WASHINGTON, Dec 2 (Reuters) - President Joe Biden signed legislation Friday to block a national U.S. railroad strike that could have devastated the American economy.
"It was tough for me but it was the right thing to do at the moment -- save jobs, to protect millions of working families from harm and disruption and to keep supply chains stable around the holidays," Biden said, adding the deal avoided "an economic catastrophe."
They don’t do that. You either are the worst HR person in the world or you’re telling stories. Unions cannot spend dues for political purposes
I would argue that's likely just their starting point knowing it's going to get negotiated down.
When these things kick off both sides usually aim for pie in the sky demands that they know they aren't going to get.
Unions definitely support candidates. What revenue stream do they have other than member dues that allows them to do that?
Members directly contribute to a political PAC. Those contributions are separate from dues and are clearly labeled political. Unions do endorse but I was referencing your statement about spending dues on politics.
Not sure if they timed it or if that is just when the contract ran out.
If I was Biden I would strongly consider using Taft Hardly here. Union will always have plenty of leverage because they can shut down the economy.
Our well compensated local teachers are asking for a 7% year over year raise. It's ridiculous. Most of the teachers here make$80-110K/9 months. NJ has the highest taxes in the country and I'm in the highest taxed county in NJ where we pay a ton in property taxes already. A 7% ask pisses me off. I'm all for paying teachers well (which we already do), but this is just greed.
Today is opening day of Bow Season, ducks opens up on the 5th.
agreed
there is no way the port authority would agree to that as it would take any leverage they have away
you want a massive wage increase AND protections that technology won't replace your job?
good luck with that
The USMX said in a statement on Monday it had offered to hike wages by nearly 50%, up from a prior proposal.
This just sounds like greed by the port workers. Some of the articles I have read said the average port worker makes over 80k per year now and many work weekends and overtime to push their salaries to $150k per year. Maybe I don't know enough about the situation but the 77% demand, better benefits and promise of no automation down the line. What am I missing here?
You're not missing anything, its simple greed, nothing more.
I think the administration will wait till the strike starts having a real impact to intervene. We'll see...
You will pay more for that service if you want it every day. In the world today it's either raise the price or shrink it. Personally I'm ok with every other day cleaning.
What he failed to mention was, his longshoreman don't get paid either and have to live in this country as well. Go ahead, cut off your nose to spite your face, it just might backfire. I'm sure we have a few immigrants that would be willing to work. I'm hearing there's a lot being let in.
They got the John Deere labor union ?
This strike might be Trumps only hope for victory.
Yeah they might just be giving them time to see if they can get a deal going.
